WAR (Warhammer Online)

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by Dreadlich

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by 123123456202

i wish PvE had a harsher one but PvP really shouldnt have a death penalty in my opinion so except for the easy penalty for pve they made the right decision because i think you will be dieing alot more often than you are use to in an MMO

 

To say you will die more often then other MMOs is just stupid.   WAR is not the first to PvP or RvR so dont talk out of your ass.

PvE and PvP should have the same penalty, if you die, you die period, it should hurt, it should make you fear dieing.  You as a player should want to do everything in your power to advoid death... Ever Play EQ1, The good players were easy as hell to point out due to the Death penalty.

Before you all start going off the deep end on how EQ1's death penalty was nothing but a time sink remember the whole point of any MMO is a time sink, to get the player to pay to play longer is the goal after all.

No Death Penatly for PvP is crap, ruins any chance of WAR being fun for myself and gamers like me who want Risk back in our games.

No risk is worthless in MMOs. All you have to do with no death penalty is throw body after body at the enemy until you win or they leave.  Pointless.   Zerging will be the main tactic in any open World PvP/RvR fights.

 

I thought you had a good point so I went back to see where the thread started going down the crapper. It was fine until someone posted this on page 1....

 

So I am not allowed to post my opinion?  This is all about what I find fun, not what others find fun.... get a clue please... Show me where in that post I said WAR would not be fun for anyone else?

Certainly, you can voice your opinion. I indicated that I thought you had a good point. I was responding to your scathing response to xenogias. The highlighted portion specifically.

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by xenogias

Figured I would pop back in here since the thread hasnt died yet. Like I said before, I have played harsh DP's in games and yes, I loved it and will not deny that. Hell, if Asherons Call updated its graphics, whiped the slate clean (character wise), hired the old writers/devs back I would drop WAR in a heartbeat to go back and im REALLY enjoying WAR. OH and they would have to get rid of the retarted ass arc spells, thats when PvP became less about skill and more about who is going to lag first.

 I dont mind harsh death penalties in the least. The only thing that pisses me off is the ones that come here like the OP and talk bs about how its not worth playing without harsh DP's. In AC and EQ the game was made where harsh DP's worked. In games like DAoC and WAR harsh DP's just wont work. IMO its not because you wont "learn your class" better or "Wont get the fear feeling" but because your going to die, and die lots. No way around it. You could be the BEST PvP'er and your going to die alot. Just alittle less than the next person.

Need a reason to learn your class to the fullest? Thats why they have a certain feature (unless its been removed and I missed it or they havent said yet) that the top guilds and if I remember right top players in RR rank will be featured in Tier4 keep area's. Your not going to get thoes honors unless you are the best and that takes teamwork and knowing your class AND other classes like the back of your hand.

Anyway this "I'm right and your wrong" crap can stop. Neither side is right or wrong. The only diffrence it one side has more numbers than the other. Some of us are stuck in the middle where we like both ways but understand it has no place in some games and have fun with both. *shrug*

What pisses me off is people like you who dont read the whole thread and flame the OP.
 

I am the OP, the whole point of this thread which you can clearly see on Page 1 is I wanted to know what the Death Penatly was... I found out, I stated that I would pass on the game as would gamers like myself that enjoy risk as part of their MMO games.    I said the game TO ME would not be fun without a DP, never said WAR would not be fun... Its the people like you and others that come in long after the thread should have died can call me and others with my same opnion an elitiest asshole or a hardcore game because to ME any game without a DP would not be fun.   I do think of myself as a hardcore game because of the amount of time I spend playing games and for no other reason.

You guys need to chill out, I simply asked a question and once I read the answer, I posted my personal choice on the game... It has nothing to do with the game it self which I hope is great and tons of people enjoy.  For me WAR will not be fun, FOR me any game without a harsh DP is not worth my time..... It has nothing to do with what is fun for you or others, it has to do with if its fun for ME.

Again dont put words in my mouth.... I never said WAR would be crap or not fun... I said it would not be fun for me.... Do you understand the difference?

This thread should have died after page 1 because that is all I needed to know, then it turned into this bullshit debate about DP's,  who cares, play the game that is fun for you... WAR will simply not be fun for me, thats to bad for me.   I really dont care what you find fun that was not the point of this thread.

WAR will not be fun FOR ME, I hope you all enjoy it, I hope it is successful, I really do hope it is because we all know we as gamers have earned the right for another great game because of all the crappy games we had to put up with over the last few years.

Just pointing out your culpability in the matter.

Originally posted by Dreadlich

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by Dreadlich

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by 123123456202

i wish PvE had a harsher one but PvP really shouldnt have a death penalty in my opinion so except for the easy penalty for pve they made the right decision because i think you will be dieing alot more often than you are use to in an MMO

 

To say you will die more often then other MMOs is just stupid.   WAR is not the first to PvP or RvR so dont talk out of your ass.

PvE and PvP should have the same penalty, if you die, you die period, it should hurt, it should make you fear dieing.  You as a player should want to do everything in your power to advoid death... Ever Play EQ1, The good players were easy as hell to point out due to the Death penalty.

Before you all start going off the deep end on how EQ1's death penalty was nothing but a time sink remember the whole point of any MMO is a time sink, to get the player to pay to play longer is the goal after all.

No Death Penatly for PvP is crap, ruins any chance of WAR being fun for myself and gamers like me who want Risk back in our games.

No risk is worthless in MMOs. All you have to do with no death penalty is throw body after body at the enemy until you win or they leave.  Pointless.   Zerging will be the main tactic in any open World PvP/RvR fights.

 

I thought you had a good point so I went back to see where the thread started going down the crapper. It was fine until someone posted this on page 1....

 

So I am not allowed to post my opinion?  This is all about what I find fun, not what others find fun.... get a clue please... Show me where in that post I said WAR would not be fun for anyone else?

 

Certainly, you can voice your opinion. I indicated that I thought you had a good point. I was responding to your scathing response to xenogias. The highlighted portion specifically.

 

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by xenogias

Figured I would pop back in here since the thread hasnt died yet. Like I said before, I have played harsh DP's in games and yes, I loved it and will not deny that. Hell, if Asherons Call updated its graphics, whiped the slate clean (character wise), hired the old writers/devs back I would drop WAR in a heartbeat to go back and im REALLY enjoying WAR. OH and they would have to get rid of the retarted ass arc spells, thats when PvP became less about skill and more about who is going to lag first.

 I dont mind harsh death penalties in the least. The only thing that pisses me off is the ones that come here like the OP and talk bs about how its not worth playing without harsh DP's. In AC and EQ the game was made where harsh DP's worked. In games like DAoC and WAR harsh DP's just wont work. IMO its not because you wont "learn your class" better or "Wont get the fear feeling" but because your going to die, and die lots. No way around it. You could be the BEST PvP'er and your going to die alot. Just alittle less than the next person.

Need a reason to learn your class to the fullest? Thats why they have a certain feature (unless its been removed and I missed it or they havent said yet) that the top guilds and if I remember right top players in RR rank will be featured in Tier4 keep area's. Your not going to get thoes honors unless you are the best and that takes teamwork and knowing your class AND other classes like the back of your hand.

Anyway this "I'm right and your wrong" crap can stop. Neither side is right or wrong. The only diffrence it one side has more numbers than the other. Some of us are stuck in the middle where we like both ways but understand it has no place in some games and have fun with both. *shrug*

What pisses me off is people like you who dont read the whole thread and flame the OP.
 

I am the OP, the whole point of this thread which you can clearly see on Page 1 is I wanted to know what the Death Penatly was... I found out, I stated that I would pass on the game as would gamers like myself that enjoy risk as part of their MMO games.    I said the game TO ME would not be fun without a DP, never said WAR would not be fun... Its the people like you and others that come in long after the thread should have died can call me and others with my same opnion an elitiest asshole or a hardcore game because to ME any game without a DP would not be fun.   I do think of myself as a hardcore game because of the amount of time I spend playing games and for no other reason.

You guys need to chill out, I simply asked a question and once I read the answer, I posted my personal choice on the game... It has nothing to do with the game it self which I hope is great and tons of people enjoy.  For me WAR will not be fun, FOR me any game without a harsh DP is not worth my time..... It has nothing to do with what is fun for you or others, it has to do with if its fun for ME.

Again dont put words in my mouth.... I never said WAR would be crap or not fun... I said it would not be fun for me.... Do you understand the difference?

This thread should have died after page 1 because that is all I needed to know, then it turned into this bullshit debate about DP's,  who cares, play the game that is fun for you... WAR will simply not be fun for me, thats to bad for me.   I really dont care what you find fun that was not the point of this thread.

WAR will not be fun FOR ME, I hope you all enjoy it, I hope it is successful, I really do hope it is because we all know we as gamers have earned the right for another great game because of all the crappy games we had to put up with over the last few years.

Just pointing out your culpability in the matter.

I agree I did have a part in causing this debate but I still dont see in that post you quoted were I attacked him or WAR... Again I provided my opinion on why I want a DP in any game I play.

Again The point I am making is that never did I say WAR in general would not be fun, never did I say WAR in general would be a shitty game.... I simply stated that for me WAR would not be fun and I was called an elitist asshole.

It might have already been mentioned, but because I'm to lazy to read through all the pages of these threads I'm going to say it anyway. Pirates of the Burning Sea had a somewhat harsh death penalty. You die you lose your ship, your inventory, etc. Look at where that game is now? It's a game full of gankers and greifers running around until they find a fight they can win with numbers or levels, and running from the ones they can't.

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by Hazmal

Well obviously nobody cares about the severe death penalty or it would be in-game.  Don't like it, move on, it is a game after all; I don't recall Mythic chaining anyone down and telling them they have to play and like it.

If you want a real harsh death penalty, go play Russian Roulet.

 

Yet another example of someone that does not read the whole thread before posting... I stated very clearly on page 1 that I will passing on this game.

What dont you understand?  

Yet another person that thinks the world revolves around them, if I was speaking directly to you I would have quoted you.  What don't you understand about that?  This your first forum or something?

Originally posted by Hazmal

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by Hazmal

Well obviously nobody cares about the severe death penalty or it would be in-game.  Don't like it, move on, it is a game after all; I don't recall Mythic chaining anyone down and telling them they have to play and like it.

If you want a real harsh death penalty, go play Russian Roulet.

 

Yet another example of someone that does not read the whole thread before posting... I stated very clearly on page 1 that I will passing on this game.

What dont you understand?  

 

Yet another person that thinks the world revolves around them, if I was speaking directly to you I would have quoted you.  What don't you understand about that?  This your first forum or something?

No the world does not revolve around me but this thread does since I started it.   Obviously people do care about the Death Penatly.
 

I was pointing out that I already said I was going to move on, why post something like this if you are not talking about the people that disagree with Mythics choice?

Originally posted by WoWarhammer

 Regardless of your age, you are a complete moron.

Regardless of your age, this was uncalled for...and hypocritical.  You take issue with someone's elitism by acting elitist yourself, placing yourself above others and calling someone a degrading name.  If you have a sense of compassion, dignity and self-respect, I think an apology would be in order.

Honestly, why do you guys need the game to enforce a death penalty on you?

If you want it hard, then delete an item from your equipped inventory when you die.  Sure, it doesn't effect anyone else, but you're pushing for your own fun, not theirs.  Or sit out of the game for 10 minutes.  Don't release your soul from death, wait for someone to rez you.

Get enough people together to sign a petition, ask for this magical FFA PVP Harsh Death server that everyone seems to be dying for (no pun intended).  The worst they will say is no.