Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by Dreadlich

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by 123123456202

i wish PvE had a harsher one but PvP really shouldnt have a death penalty in my opinion so except for the easy penalty for pve they made the right decision because i think you will be dieing alot more often than you are use to in an MMO

 

To say you will die more often then other MMOs is just stupid.   WAR is not the first to PvP or RvR so dont talk out of your ass.

PvE and PvP should have the same penalty, if you die, you die period, it should hurt, it should make you fear dieing.  You as a player should want to do everything in your power to advoid death... Ever Play EQ1, The good players were easy as hell to point out due to the Death penalty.

Before you all start going off the deep end on how EQ1's death penalty was nothing but a time sink remember the whole point of any MMO is a time sink, to get the player to pay to play longer is the goal after all.

No Death Penatly for PvP is crap, ruins any chance of WAR being fun for myself and gamers like me who want Risk back in our games.

No risk is worthless in MMOs. All you have to do with no death penalty is throw body after body at the enemy until you win or they leave.  Pointless.   Zerging will be the main tactic in any open World PvP/RvR fights.

 

I thought you had a good point so I went back to see where the thread started going down the crapper. It was fine until someone posted this on page 1....

 

So I am not allowed to post my opinion?  This is all about what I find fun, not what others find fun.... get a clue please... Show me where in that post I said WAR would not be fun for anyone else?

Certainly, you can voice your opinion. I indicated that I thought you had a good point. I was responding to your scathing response to xenogias. The highlighted portion specifically.

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by xenogias

Figured I would pop back in here since the thread hasnt died yet. Like I said before, I have played harsh DP's in games and yes, I loved it and will not deny that. Hell, if Asherons Call updated its graphics, whiped the slate clean (character wise), hired the old writers/devs back I would drop WAR in a heartbeat to go back and im REALLY enjoying WAR. OH and they would have to get rid of the retarted ass arc spells, thats when PvP became less about skill and more about who is going to lag first.

 I dont mind harsh death penalties in the least. The only thing that pisses me off is the ones that come here like the OP and talk bs about how its not worth playing without harsh DP's. In AC and EQ the game was made where harsh DP's worked. In games like DAoC and WAR harsh DP's just wont work. IMO its not because you wont "learn your class" better or "Wont get the fear feeling" but because your going to die, and die lots. No way around it. You could be the BEST PvP'er and your going to die alot. Just alittle less than the next person.

Need a reason to learn your class to the fullest? Thats why they have a certain feature (unless its been removed and I missed it or they havent said yet) that the top guilds and if I remember right top players in RR rank will be featured in Tier4 keep area's. Your not going to get thoes honors unless you are the best and that takes teamwork and knowing your class AND other classes like the back of your hand.

Anyway this "I'm right and your wrong" crap can stop. Neither side is right or wrong. The only diffrence it one side has more numbers than the other. Some of us are stuck in the middle where we like both ways but understand it has no place in some games and have fun with both. *shrug*

What pisses me off is people like you who dont read the whole thread and flame the OP.
 

I am the OP, the whole point of this thread which you can clearly see on Page 1 is I wanted to know what the Death Penatly was... I found out, I stated that I would pass on the game as would gamers like myself that enjoy risk as part of their MMO games.    I said the game TO ME would not be fun without a DP, never said WAR would not be fun... Its the people like you and others that come in long after the thread should have died can call me and others with my same opnion an elitiest asshole or a hardcore game because to ME any game without a DP would not be fun.   I do think of myself as a hardcore game because of the amount of time I spend playing games and for no other reason.

You guys need to chill out, I simply asked a question and once I read the answer, I posted my personal choice on the game... It has nothing to do with the game it self which I hope is great and tons of people enjoy.  For me WAR will not be fun, FOR me any game without a harsh DP is not worth my time..... It has nothing to do with what is fun for you or others, it has to do with if its fun for ME.

Again dont put words in my mouth.... I never said WAR would be crap or not fun... I said it would not be fun for me.... Do you understand the difference?

This thread should have died after page 1 because that is all I needed to know, then it turned into this bullshit debate about DP's,  who cares, play the game that is fun for you... WAR will simply not be fun for me, thats to bad for me.   I really dont care what you find fun that was not the point of this thread.

WAR will not be fun FOR ME, I hope you all enjoy it, I hope it is successful, I really do hope it is because we all know we as gamers have earned the right for another great game because of all the crappy games we had to put up with over the last few years.

Just pointing out your culpability in the matter.

Originally posted by Dreadlich

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by Dreadlich

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by 123123456202

i wish PvE had a harsher one but PvP really shouldnt have a death penalty in my opinion so except for the easy penalty for pve they made the right decision because i think you will be dieing alot more often than you are use to in an MMO

 

To say you will die more often then other MMOs is just stupid.   WAR is not the first to PvP or RvR so dont talk out of your ass.

PvE and PvP should have the same penalty, if you die, you die period, it should hurt, it should make you fear dieing.  You as a player should want to do everything in your power to advoid death... Ever Play EQ1, The good players were easy as hell to point out due to the Death penalty.

Before you all start going off the deep end on how EQ1's death penalty was nothing but a time sink remember the whole point of any MMO is a time sink, to get the player to pay to play longer is the goal after all.

No Death Penatly for PvP is crap, ruins any chance of WAR being fun for myself and gamers like me who want Risk back in our games.

No risk is worthless in MMOs. All you have to do with no death penalty is throw body after body at the enemy until you win or they leave.  Pointless.   Zerging will be the main tactic in any open World PvP/RvR fights.

 

I thought you had a good point so I went back to see where the thread started going down the crapper. It was fine until someone posted this on page 1....

 

So I am not allowed to post my opinion?  This is all about what I find fun, not what others find fun.... get a clue please... Show me where in that post I said WAR would not be fun for anyone else?

 

Certainly, you can voice your opinion. I indicated that I thought you had a good point. I was responding to your scathing response to xenogias. The highlighted portion specifically.

 

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by xenogias

Figured I would pop back in here since the thread hasnt died yet. Like I said before, I have played harsh DP's in games and yes, I loved it and will not deny that. Hell, if Asherons Call updated its graphics, whiped the slate clean (character wise), hired the old writers/devs back I would drop WAR in a heartbeat to go back and im REALLY enjoying WAR. OH and they would have to get rid of the retarted ass arc spells, thats when PvP became less about skill and more about who is going to lag first.

 I dont mind harsh death penalties in the least. The only thing that pisses me off is the ones that come here like the OP and talk bs about how its not worth playing without harsh DP's. In AC and EQ the game was made where harsh DP's worked. In games like DAoC and WAR harsh DP's just wont work. IMO its not because you wont "learn your class" better or "Wont get the fear feeling" but because your going to die, and die lots. No way around it. You could be the BEST PvP'er and your going to die alot. Just alittle less than the next person.

Need a reason to learn your class to the fullest? Thats why they have a certain feature (unless its been removed and I missed it or they havent said yet) that the top guilds and if I remember right top players in RR rank will be featured in Tier4 keep area's. Your not going to get thoes honors unless you are the best and that takes teamwork and knowing your class AND other classes like the back of your hand.

Anyway this "I'm right and your wrong" crap can stop. Neither side is right or wrong. The only diffrence it one side has more numbers than the other. Some of us are stuck in the middle where we like both ways but understand it has no place in some games and have fun with both. *shrug*

What pisses me off is people like you who dont read the whole thread and flame the OP.
 

I am the OP, the whole point of this thread which you can clearly see on Page 1 is I wanted to know what the Death Penatly was... I found out, I stated that I would pass on the game as would gamers like myself that enjoy risk as part of their MMO games.    I said the game TO ME would not be fun without a DP, never said WAR would not be fun... Its the people like you and others that come in long after the thread should have died can call me and others with my same opnion an elitiest asshole or a hardcore game because to ME any game without a DP would not be fun.   I do think of myself as a hardcore game because of the amount of time I spend playing games and for no other reason.

You guys need to chill out, I simply asked a question and once I read the answer, I posted my personal choice on the game... It has nothing to do with the game it self which I hope is great and tons of people enjoy.  For me WAR will not be fun, FOR me any game without a harsh DP is not worth my time..... It has nothing to do with what is fun for you or others, it has to do with if its fun for ME.

Again dont put words in my mouth.... I never said WAR would be crap or not fun... I said it would not be fun for me.... Do you understand the difference?

This thread should have died after page 1 because that is all I needed to know, then it turned into this bullshit debate about DP's,  who cares, play the game that is fun for you... WAR will simply not be fun for me, thats to bad for me.   I really dont care what you find fun that was not the point of this thread.

WAR will not be fun FOR ME, I hope you all enjoy it, I hope it is successful, I really do hope it is because we all know we as gamers have earned the right for another great game because of all the crappy games we had to put up with over the last few years.

Just pointing out your culpability in the matter.

I agree I did have a part in causing this debate but I still dont see in that post you quoted were I attacked him or WAR... Again I provided my opinion on why I want a DP in any game I play.

Again The point I am making is that never did I say WAR in general would not be fun, never did I say WAR in general would be a shitty game.... I simply stated that for me WAR would not be fun and I was called an elitist asshole.

It might have already been mentioned, but because I'm to lazy to read through all the pages of these threads I'm going to say it anyway. Pirates of the Burning Sea had a somewhat harsh death penalty. You die you lose your ship, your inventory, etc. Look at where that game is now? It's a game full of gankers and greifers running around until they find a fight they can win with numbers or levels, and running from the ones they can't.

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by Hazmal

Well obviously nobody cares about the severe death penalty or it would be in-game.  Don't like it, move on, it is a game after all; I don't recall Mythic chaining anyone down and telling them they have to play and like it.

If you want a real harsh death penalty, go play Russian Roulet.

 

Yet another example of someone that does not read the whole thread before posting... I stated very clearly on page 1 that I will passing on this game.

What dont you understand?  

Yet another person that thinks the world revolves around them, if I was speaking directly to you I would have quoted you.  What don't you understand about that?  This your first forum or something?

Originally posted by Hazmal

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by Hazmal

Well obviously nobody cares about the severe death penalty or it would be in-game.  Don't like it, move on, it is a game after all; I don't recall Mythic chaining anyone down and telling them they have to play and like it.

If you want a real harsh death penalty, go play Russian Roulet.

 

Yet another example of someone that does not read the whole thread before posting... I stated very clearly on page 1 that I will passing on this game.

What dont you understand?  

 

Yet another person that thinks the world revolves around them, if I was speaking directly to you I would have quoted you.  What don't you understand about that?  This your first forum or something?

No the world does not revolve around me but this thread does since I started it.   Obviously people do care about the Death Penatly.
 

I was pointing out that I already said I was going to move on, why post something like this if you are not talking about the people that disagree with Mythics choice?

Originally posted by WoWarhammer

 Regardless of your age, you are a complete moron.

Regardless of your age, this was uncalled for...and hypocritical.  You take issue with someone's elitism by acting elitist yourself, placing yourself above others and calling someone a degrading name.  If you have a sense of compassion, dignity and self-respect, I think an apology would be in order.

Honestly, why do you guys need the game to enforce a death penalty on you?

If you want it hard, then delete an item from your equipped inventory when you die.  Sure, it doesn't effect anyone else, but you're pushing for your own fun, not theirs.  Or sit out of the game for 10 minutes.  Don't release your soul from death, wait for someone to rez you.

Get enough people together to sign a petition, ask for this magical FFA PVP Harsh Death server that everyone seems to be dying for (no pun intended).  The worst they will say is no.

Originally posted by Rumors

Honestly, why do you guys need the game to enforce a death penalty on you?

If you want it hard, then delete an item from your equipped inventory when you die.  Sure, it doesn't effect anyone else, but you're pushing for your own fun, not theirs.  Or sit out of the game for 10 minutes.  Don't release your soul from death, wait for someone to rez you.

Get enough people together to sign a petition, ask for this magical FFA PVP Harsh Death server that everyone seems to be dying for (no pun intended).  The worst they will say is no.

I dont want to change Mythic's mind, it was there choice and I respect there choice,  All it means is that I will pass on this game... no biggy, another game will come along that fits the bill for me.

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by Rumors

Honestly, why do you guys need the game to enforce a death penalty on you?

If you want it hard, then delete an item from your equipped inventory when you die.  Sure, it doesn't effect anyone else, but you're pushing for your own fun, not theirs.  Or sit out of the game for 10 minutes.  Don't release your soul from death, wait for someone to rez you.

Get enough people together to sign a petition, ask for this magical FFA PVP Harsh Death server that everyone seems to be dying for (no pun intended).  The worst they will say is no.

 

I dont want to change Mythic's mind, it was there choice and I respect there choice,  All it means is that I will pass on this game... no biggy, another game will come along that fits the bill for me.

 

You refuse to play WAR because you can fight rvr constantly without thinking omg it takes too long to be worth it? Wow. Also, the OP got his answer and this thread has gone way off topic, time to let it die now.
 

Great another game of domino's then huh that blows I was actually gonna buy this at launch but now I am hesitant due to the rinse repeat scenario I see coming now. Here is how battle will go once the general populace gets in game.

1.Group a charges

2. Group B charges

3. whatever group takes more life wins due to morons running in solo in a long line of moronic Domino's and dies one by one till objectives are complete. You want an example go look at wow the insta re-spawn after dead was the MMORPG downfall.

Even in UO they has mechanics to make even a run to the healer hurt even if the healers where only 1 minute away from the fight. cause you still had to get to your body and get your stuff (if it wasent looted) or insured for those that stuck around after the debacle. As a mage type to get to your body and find you had no regents (used for casting)was a thrill cause if your teamtes where good they knew to try and keep people away from your corpse.

INSTA RESPAWNS FTL!!!!!!!

Make my healers res my ass make people look out for each other makes these damn games good again. To give insta res is to say to every dont give a crap about anyone on your team cause even if he dies he will bb in no time.

Long gone are the day's of cross healing in game's I suppose. The only place you see real healing is in damn raids and such. Even in the dreaded WOW ya you occasionally see some good pvp healers but few and far between.

Bring back team pvp and dependence on others. stop with this solo fight and die shit!!!!

GOD I'm starting to think I'm getting to old for these games. Im starting to sound like my grandad saying ",you think you got it tough I used to walk to school in 6 ft of snow going uphill both way's!"

Originally posted by jaycee2006

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by Rumors

Honestly, why do you guys need the game to enforce a death penalty on you?

If you want it hard, then delete an item from your equipped inventory when you die.  Sure, it doesn't effect anyone else, but you're pushing for your own fun, not theirs.  Or sit out of the game for 10 minutes.  Don't release your soul from death, wait for someone to rez you.

Get enough people together to sign a petition, ask for this magical FFA PVP Harsh Death server that everyone seems to be dying for (no pun intended).  The worst they will say is no.

 

I dont want to change Mythic's mind, it was there choice and I respect there choice,  All it means is that I will pass on this game... no biggy, another game will come along that fits the bill for me.

 

You refuse to play WAR because you can fight rvr constantly without thinking omg it takes too long to be worth it? Wow. Also, the OP got his answer and this thread has gone way off topic, time to let it die now.
 

First I am the OP... Second I refuse to play any game that does not involve risk.  I do not want to play WAR because it lacks a gameplay feature I find fun, it's that simple.

Originally posted by TdogSkal

First I am the OP... Second I refuse to play any game that does not involve risk.  I do not want to play WAR because it lacks a gameplay feature I find fun, it's that simple.

You're a patient person to repeat yourself to the audience.  My mode of thinking usually goes, "if they didn't hear me the first time, why would they hear me the second?  or the third?  How many times would it take?"  Most of the time I'd write "See previous post." and leave it at that. 

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by jaycee2006

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by Rumors

Honestly, why do you guys need the game to enforce a death penalty on you?

If you want it hard, then delete an item from your equipped inventory when you die.  Sure, it doesn't effect anyone else, but you're pushing for your own fun, not theirs.  Or sit out of the game for 10 minutes.  Don't release your soul from death, wait for someone to rez you.

Get enough people together to sign a petition, ask for this magical FFA PVP Harsh Death server that everyone seems to be dying for (no pun intended).  The worst they will say is no.

 

I dont want to change Mythic's mind, it was there choice and I respect there choice,  All it means is that I will pass on this game... no biggy, another game will come along that fits the bill for me.

 

You refuse to play WAR because you can fight rvr constantly without thinking omg it takes too long to be worth it? Wow. Also, the OP got his answer and this thread has gone way off topic, time to let it die now.
 

 

First I am the OP... Second I refuse to play any game that does not involve risk.  I do not want to play WAR because it lacks a gameplay feature I find fun, it's that simple.

I have to laugh at the OP, I am sorry really. You know, why do you want a heavy death penalty in WAR?. If you have read about Warhammer Online you would have knowed that its based on Realm VS Realms. Its not based on Risk Vs. Reward PvP!

The only thing that supports a cruel death penalty is EVE PVP model where you've seriously can hurt your opponent when you win a pvp battle. Heh, the EVE model is built on sadism. But where is the fun in that?

Gankers, Grifers might get there little satisfaction from wining a PVP battle in Eve Online....So that might appeal for you.

Maybe Darkfall is something too, but 10 years in beta?. Seems more like vaporware.

Originally posted by Battlekruse

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by jaycee2006

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by Rumors

Honestly, why do you guys need the game to enforce a death penalty on you?

If you want it hard, then delete an item from your equipped inventory when you die.  Sure, it doesn't effect anyone else, but you're pushing for your own fun, not theirs.  Or sit out of the game for 10 minutes.  Don't release your soul from death, wait for someone to rez you.

Get enough people together to sign a petition, ask for this magical FFA PVP Harsh Death server that everyone seems to be dying for (no pun intended).  The worst they will say is no.

 

I dont want to change Mythic's mind, it was there choice and I respect there choice,  All it means is that I will pass on this game... no biggy, another game will come along that fits the bill for me.

 

You refuse to play WAR because you can fight rvr constantly without thinking omg it takes too long to be worth it? Wow. Also, the OP got his answer and this thread has gone way off topic, time to let it die now.
 

 

First I am the OP... Second I refuse to play any game that does not involve risk.  I do not want to play WAR because it lacks a gameplay feature I find fun, it's that simple.

 

I have to laugh at the OP, I am sorry really. You know, why do you want a heavy death penalty in WAR?. If you have read about Warhammer Online you would have knowed that its based on Realm VS Realms. Its not based on Risk Vs. Reward PvP!

The only thing that supports a cruel death penalty is EVE PVP model where you've seriously can hurt your opponent when you win a pvp battle. Heh, the EVE model is built on sadism. But where is the fun in that?

Gankers, Grifers might get there little satisfaction from wining a PVP battle in Eve Online....So that might appeal for you.

Maybe Darkfall is something too, but 10 years in beta?. Seems more like vaporware.

I want a heavy death penatly in any game i play, period.  What do you not understand?  

Gankers and Grifers are in all games reguardless of the death penatly, so please dont say it only happens with a harsh death penatly.

I like death penalty for PvP in WoW. It's not about losing xp, gold or items, it's about comfort and tactics. Waiting for 5min to get ressurected in world pvp is very annoing and it makes you not liking to die at all. And in BGs it's all about tactics. You can die but save your base, and you can die and lose it. So you have to think twice what's good and bad.

OP, thats great! just leave it there and play something else and let us be happy with a great game, toodles.

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by Battlekruse

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by jaycee2006

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by Rumors

Honestly, why do you guys need the game to enforce a death penalty on you?

If you want it hard, then delete an item from your equipped inventory when you die.  Sure, it doesn't effect anyone else, but you're pushing for your own fun, not theirs.  Or sit out of the game for 10 minutes.  Don't release your soul from death, wait for someone to rez you.

Get enough people together to sign a petition, ask for this magical FFA PVP Harsh Death server that everyone seems to be dying for (no pun intended).  The worst they will say is no.

 

I dont want to change Mythic's mind, it was there choice and I respect there choice,  All it means is that I will pass on this game... no biggy, another game will come along that fits the bill for me.

 

You refuse to play WAR because you can fight rvr constantly without thinking omg it takes too long to be worth it? Wow. Also, the OP got his answer and this thread has gone way off topic, time to let it die now.
 

 

First I am the OP... Second I refuse to play any game that does not involve risk.  I do not want to play WAR because it lacks a gameplay feature I find fun, it's that simple.

 

I have to laugh at the OP, I am sorry really. You know, why do you want a heavy death penalty in WAR?. If you have read about Warhammer Online you would have knowed that its based on Realm VS Realms. Its not based on Risk Vs. Reward PvP!

The only thing that supports a cruel death penalty is EVE PVP model where you've seriously can hurt your opponent when you win a pvp battle. Heh, the EVE model is built on sadism. But where is the fun in that?

Gankers, Grifers might get there little satisfaction from wining a PVP battle in Eve Online....So that might appeal for you.

Maybe Darkfall is something too, but 10 years in beta?. Seems more like vaporware.

 

I want a heavy death penatly in any game i play, period.  What do you not understand?  

Its understandable to want a harsh death penalty in certain games.  Not in WAR though.  Its an RVR game so you're guaranteed to die.... quite often I might add.  Harsh death penalties are for games that require a certain amount of skill and knowledge... and perhaps something worth taking from the other person.   You won't have that in WAR so much.

Originally posted by Battlekruse

Originally posted by TdogSkal

First I am the OP... Second I refuse to play any game that does not involve risk.  I do not want to play WAR because it lacks a gameplay feature I find fun, it's that simple.

 

I have to laugh at the OP, I am sorry really. You know, why do you want a heavy death penalty in WAR?.

I think I'll join in the Original Poster's song, since I've heard the chorus and refrain a few times and will answer this question posted.  The answer is here:

Originally posted by TdogSkal

...I refuse to play any game that does not involve risk.  I do not want to play WAR because it lacks a gameplay feature I find fun, it's that simple.

Or for those with shorter attention span...

Originally posted by TdogSkal

... does not involve risk...lacks a gameplay feature I find fun...

Or for leet-speakers...

Originally posted by TdogSkal

...no r1sk?2?2? teh sux :( !!!1111

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by Battlekruse

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by jaycee2006

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by Rumors

Honestly, why do you guys need the game to enforce a death penalty on you?

If you want it hard, then delete an item from your equipped inventory when you die.  Sure, it doesn't effect anyone else, but you're pushing for your own fun, not theirs.  Or sit out of the game for 10 minutes.  Don't release your soul from death, wait for someone to rez you.

Get enough people together to sign a petition, ask for this magical FFA PVP Harsh Death server that everyone seems to be dying for (no pun intended).  The worst they will say is no.

 

I dont want to change Mythic's mind, it was there choice and I respect there choice,  All it means is that I will pass on this game... no biggy, another game will come along that fits the bill for me.

 

You refuse to play WAR because you can fight rvr constantly without thinking omg it takes too long to be worth it? Wow. Also, the OP got his answer and this thread has gone way off topic, time to let it die now.
 

 

First I am the OP... Second I refuse to play any game that does not involve risk.  I do not want to play WAR because it lacks a gameplay feature I find fun, it's that simple.

 

I have to laugh at the OP, I am sorry really. You know, why do you want a heavy death penalty in WAR?. If you have read about Warhammer Online you would have knowed that its based on Realm VS Realms. Its not based on Risk Vs. Reward PvP!

The only thing that supports a cruel death penalty is EVE PVP model where you've seriously can hurt your opponent when you win a pvp battle. Heh, the EVE model is built on sadism. But where is the fun in that?

Gankers, Grifers might get there little satisfaction from wining a PVP battle in Eve Online....So that might appeal for you.

Maybe Darkfall is something too, but 10 years in beta?. Seems more like vaporware.

 

I want a heavy death penatly in any game i play, period.  What do you not understand?  

Gankers and Grifers are in all games reguardless of the death penatly, so please dont say it only happens with a harsh death penatly.

Well, Good Luck, with whatever mmo´ you are gonna play. I can understand a harsh death penalty in games like Diablo where it focus a lot at 1on1 combat. Just a shame that PvP sucked in Diablo 2 and I really doubt that even Diablo 3 would have PvP like in the first version. Thats a shame really,. But a heavy death penalty in a RvR??, uhh no nono. its focus on lage scale combat where you have to work in minor combat groups (Yes, you have to work with a TEAM) if you wanna win, no zerg tactics here. 

If you really knowed something about MMO´s then.......well I explain the basis for you. People invest a lot of time in there character when the play MMO`s, that the hole idea. They dont wanna loss it all in a single pvp combat and start all over again. 

The penalty is time lost and being removed from the fight. If you're defending a keep this can be crucial since it's not that easy to rejoin the fight if you have to go through the enemy to rejoin your allies. It wasn't much different in DAoC and dying was very disruptive. Definitely something you want to avoid.

Any other penalty would be arbitrary and doesn't really add anything to this particular game.

Originally posted by Sophist

INSTA RESPAWNS FTL!!!!!!!

Did you play the game?  The more you die, the longer your respawn timer takes.  At times, it will take upwards of 30 seconds, or more.  And 30 seconds in PVP is a lifetime.

Sorry the game doesn't punch you in the balls and send an electric charge through the nipple clamps when you die, but come on, it's a game.

Originally posted by Rumors

Originally posted by Sophist

INSTA RESPAWNS FTL!!!!!!!

 

Did you play the game?  The more you die, the longer your respawn timer takes.  At times, it will take upwards of 30 seconds, or more.  And 30 seconds in PVP is a lifetime.

Sorry the game doesn't punch you in the balls and send an electric charge through the nipple clamps when you die, but come on, it's a game.

This is serious business.

Originally posted by Rumors

Originally posted by Sophist

INSTA RESPAWNS FTL!!!!!!!

 

Did you play the game?  The more you die, the longer your respawn timer takes.  At times, it will take upwards of 30 seconds, or more.  And 30 seconds in PVP is a lifetime.

Sorry the game doesn't punch you in the balls and send an electric charge through the nipple clamps when you die, but come on, it's a game.

Why do the people that hate a harsh penatly always post this garbage.  Nobody is asking for electric charge or a punch in the balls or any other bullshit... We just want Risk involved, we want to be afriad while exploring and fighting.  I like to be scared, its what drives me to do better and learn. Why cant you understand this?

What is your problem?  Why does everything have to be easy and instant? Why cant we have a game that makes you earn the rewards.. Makes you plan ahead, makes you think on your feet.  That is all I am asking.  In my opinion a game without a Death Penatly allows players to not have to think in combat because if they die, it doesnt mean anything anyway.

Why do you have to attack our opinions?  Nobody is saying WAR will not be fun, we are staying WAR will not be fun for US...

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by Rumors

Originally posted by Sophist

INSTA RESPAWNS FTL!!!!!!!

 

Did you play the game?  The more you die, the longer your respawn timer takes.  At times, it will take upwards of 30 seconds, or more.  And 30 seconds in PVP is a lifetime.

Sorry the game doesn't punch you in the balls and send an electric charge through the nipple clamps when you die, but come on, it's a game.

 

Why do the people that hate a harsh penatly always post this garbage.  Nobody is asking for electric charge or a punch in the balls or any other bullshit... We just want Risk involved, we want to be afriad while exploring and fighting.  I like to be scared, its what drives me to do better and learn. Why cant you understand this?

What is your problem?  Why does everything have to be easy and instant? Why cant we have a game that makes you earn the rewards.. Makes you plan ahead, makes you think on your feet.  That is all I am asking.  In my opinion a game without a Death Penatly allows players to not have to think in combat because if they die, it doesnt mean anything anyway.

Why do you have to attack our opinions?  Nobody is saying WAR will not be fun, we are staying WAR will not be fun for US...

Just curios, who is "we" you post all the time. We want, We want and Us. Who are the other people you mention all the time?.

Harsh death penatly = Zerg Rush

Originally posted by Gurtelrose

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by Rumors

Originally posted by Sophist

INSTA RESPAWNS FTL!!!!!!!

 

Did you play the game?  The more you die, the longer your respawn timer takes.  At times, it will take upwards of 30 seconds, or more.  And 30 seconds in PVP is a lifetime.

Sorry the game doesn't punch you in the balls and send an electric charge through the nipple clamps when you die, but come on, it's a game.

 

Why do the people that hate a harsh penatly always post this garbage.  Nobody is asking for electric charge or a punch in the balls or any other bullshit... We just want Risk involved, we want to be afriad while exploring and fighting.  I like to be scared, its what drives me to do better and learn. Why cant you understand this?

What is your problem?  Why does everything have to be easy and instant? Why cant we have a game that makes you earn the rewards.. Makes you plan ahead, makes you think on your feet.  That is all I am asking.  In my opinion a game without a Death Penatly allows players to not have to think in combat because if they die, it doesnt mean anything anyway.

Why do you have to attack our opinions?  Nobody is saying WAR will not be fun, we are staying WAR will not be fun for US...

 

Just curios, who is "we" you post all the time. We want, We want and Us. Who are the other people you mention all the time?.

Harsh death penatly = Zerg Rush

The gamers in this post that are for a harsh death penatly, although that should have been pretty easy to figure out.

Second,  You have it wrong.. No death penatly = zerg rush.  No idea how having a Harsh Death Penatly would mean zerg rush.