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There's a video coming out, most probably next week, or shortly after. We’re talking about a long 100% in-game pure gameplay trailer with no scripting, no simulation, no post-processing.

Yay!! After only 3 months, we've managed to get from "a few weeks" to "most probably next week, or shortly after" (i.e. "maybe next week, maybe not").

Good to see they've admitted the other videos were not pure in-game video, and had scripting, simulation, and/or post-processing.

Otherwise, a completely empty update, except "we're upgrading our webservers".

Originally posted by roguetech

There's a video coming out, most probably next week, or shortly after. We’re talking about a long 100% in-game pure gameplay trailer with no scripting, no simulation, no post-processing.

 

Yay!! After only 3 months, we've managed to get from "a few weeks" to "most probably next week, or shortly after" (i.e. "maybe next week, maybe not").

Good to see they've admitted the other videos were not pure in-game video, and had scripting, simulation, and/or post-processing.

Otherwise, a completely empty update, except "we're upgrading our webservers".

Not really IMO. It also said that some things are delayed but it won't affect their 2008-release *happy* and that more people are joining the Aventurine team.

Nice!

Then we will see what happens in ten days or something? Hopefully it will be good news for us that want to play Darkfall. And for everyone else, they can go back to "insert game here" and finally give it a rest here.

Just words... But good for them expanding, nothing to us the community tho. It better be a good video next week or the week after that.

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Originally posted by roguetech

Good to see they've admitted the other videos were not pure in-game video, and had scripting, simulation, and/or post-processing.

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Tasos never said that. Stop making stuff up.

From the link -

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Hello,

I thought to quickly check in before too much more time passes. As we step up publishing activities, the updates should increase in frequency and quality, which should make up for the ones we’ve been missing the last months. We take for granted sometimes that the Darkfall community is savvy enough to understand the limitations of independent game development and make allowances, however we’re also keeping track of what we need to give you in order for you to know exactly what you’re getting into with Darkfall.

On progress, there are no major problems to report, some minor delays maybe here and there which don’t affect our timeline. Most of us had a short break, the last for a long time. Everyone is back and we officially entered into our crunch period on Monday. We’ve had several new people join the company the past month, and more on the way.

There's a video coming out, most probably next week, or shortly after. We’re talking about a long 100% in-game pure gameplay trailer with no scripting, no simulation, no post-processing. It’s us play-testing while fraps is running on free cameras and playercams and all the footage was collected and edited. The scenarios for it had to be run as part of our testing and development schedule as they came up. Nothing is scripted. We wanted to give you something that can put you in the true spirit of the game and this requires us to be actually playing the game like you would be, and not just taking you on a sightseeing tour or have a company make a marketing cinematic trailer for us.

If you're experiencing problems with the website and the forums it's because these days we're upgrading our webservers and this should be going on most of next week as well. Thank you for your patience.

Our next update would be the video, so until then, thanks for reading

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Originally posted by Aragoni

Originally posted by roguetech

There's a video coming out, most probably next week, or shortly after. We’re talking about a long 100% in-game pure gameplay trailer with no scripting, no simulation, no post-processing.

 

Yay!! After only 3 months, we've managed to get from "a few weeks" to "most probably next week, or shortly after" (i.e. "maybe next week, maybe not").

Good to see they've admitted the other videos were not pure in-game video, and had scripting, simulation, and/or post-processing.

Otherwise, a completely empty update, except "we're upgrading our webservers".

 

Not really IMO. It also said that some things are delayed but it won't affect their 2008-release *happy* and that more people are joining the Aventurine team.

Saying they were delays that aren't delaying anything, is the same as saying nothing. I did miss the part about more people joining, but again, empty information... what do I care if they hire a new janitor or one or two new gofers? IMHO, just fluff.

this video will turn 50,000 people away from darkfall or brings the fan base to a million.

Originally posted by Friction2u

 

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Originally posted by roguetech

 

Good to see they've admitted the other videos were not pure in-game video, and had scripting, simulation, and/or post-processing.

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Tasos never said that. Stop making stuff up.

The implication is "This video is not scripted, etc." He runs on for several sentences testifing how "real" this video will be, and never once even implies the others weren't. Of course he didn't actually say "the others were fake, but this one won't be." They're not the brightest people in the world, but they're not that stupid.

Originally posted by roguetech

 

Good to see they've admitted the other videos were not pure in-game video, and had scripting, simulation, and/or post-processing.

Now that's what i call 'creative reading'. i read it as, "i'm telling you this so you idiots on mmorpg.com don't get confused". they said the other videos were gameplay videos at the time they were released.

of course, when the video does roll around you can be 100% that there will still be mmorpg morons that claim *that* video was created in 3ds max or something equally ridiculous.

it's obvious that none of their videos are post-processed or they would look better, eg: AoC videos.

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Originally posted by Mahlo

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I'm not a fanboy. I'm actually rather pessimistic about the game but I do hope that it will get released due to the fact that it isn't like the 99 other EQ-clone MMO's out there.
 

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Originally posted by roguetech

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Originally posted by Aragoni

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Originally posted by roguetech
There's a video coming out, most probably next week, or shortly after. We’re talking about a long 100% in-game pure gameplay trailer with no scripting, no simulation, no post-processing.

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Yay!! After only 3 months, we've managed to get from "a few weeks" to "most probably next week, or shortly after" (i.e. "maybe next week, maybe not").
Good to see they've admitted the other videos were not pure in-game video, and had scripting, simulation, and/or post-processing.
Otherwise, a completely empty update, except "we're upgrading our webservers".

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Not really IMO. It also said that some things are delayed but it won't affect their 2008-release *happy* and that more people are joining the Aventurine team.

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Saying they were delays that aren't delaying anything, is the same as saying nothing. I did miss the part about more people joining, but again, empty information... what do I care if they hire a new janitor or one or two new gofers? IMHO, just fluff.

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well, it is just Tasos yammering on as usual but this sounds promising - at least as far as the video anyway

more waiting but just possibly some light at the end of  a very long tunnel

I am kinda dissapointed there's no video yet, but it was a nice update.

Originally posted by Aragoni

Originally posted by roguetech

Saying they were delays that aren't delaying anything, is the same as saying nothing. I did miss the part about more people joining, but again, empty information... what do I care if they hire a new janitor or one or two new gofers? IMHO, just fluff.

I CARE!

 

Then you have my condolences on an update that is not only all but completely void of substantive information, but lacking on useless details as well. Either way, only been told the video will release sooner, or perhaps later (nothing new there!), they've hired someone for something, there were some undisclosed delays (someone needed to take an unexpected toilet break?), and we won't hear back from him until the video is released.

it only sounds like yammering because most of the readers here have never worked in software development before. they just naively assume the game just magically springs into being and features just write themselves.

software development is SLOW. the design-code-test cycle takes TIME even with a large development team, and most of the time, there's nothing new to report.

be thankful these guys are ballsy enough that they even provide biweekly updates of development progress -- 99% of software companies don't.

Originally posted by javac

it only sounds like yammering because most of the readers here have never worked in software development before. they just naively assume the game just magically springs into being and features just write themselves.

 

software development is SLOW. the design-code-test cycle takes TIME even with a large development team, and most of the time, there's nothing new to report. in other words, get over it.

That would be the case if they were still in the midst of programming. But they have said time and again that they're basically ready for release and just need to polish things up now. So one would assume that coming up with 10 minutes of Fraps while the developers walk through their beloved game and play it shouldn't be too hard, now should it?

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by roguetech

 

Good to see they've admitted the other videos were not pure in-game video, and had scripting, simulation, and/or post-processing.

 

Now that's what i call 'creative reading'. i read it as, "i'm telling you this so you idiots on mmorpg.com don't get confused". they said the other videos were gameplay videos at the time they were released.

 

of course, when the video does roll around you can be 100% that there will still be mmorpg morons that claim *that* video was created in 3ds max or something equally ridiculous.

 it's obvious that none of their videos are post-processed or they would look better, eg: AoC videos.

Source? He states they don't "'enhance' any [screenshots]," and states some are "gameplay footage". No where do I see where they've denied using any post-processing, or any scripting, in any of their videos. In five sentences extolling the virtues and purity of this video, he never even implies the others were not pure. In past statements, I see he has implied there was no scripting, but does not state it (unlike in this "update").

2/22/08:

For today's update we put together a medley of location test videos taken from and around clan cities and racial outposts.

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We improved the video quality since uploading the original.

7/19/07:

I was going to add a couple of screenshots, but Henning took the time to put together a short video featuring the Mirdain mount, the Aerdin Cat, which you can view here:

2/9/07:

The video was made from internal testing gameplay footage we took using Fraps. Ricki and Henning spent the most time on it, which wasn't more than a few hours. Panayiotis, our sound engineer, wrote the music. The test builds we use are optimized for testing and not all elements of the game are enabled in them. The footage consists of highlights from developers testing on older test builds. Darkfall is in a more advanced state at the moment. The graphics for the video footage are set to "default" which means that you're not seeing dynamic shadows, among other things.

1/30/07:

We made a new video, you can get it here:

6/15/06:

Unfortunately, there was speculation on this screenshot being "enhanced". We’ve told you many times that we don’t do that but since that's not enough for some people, here's some in-game footage.

2/27/06:

We're releasing the first Darkfall gameplay video today. We pieced it together from in-game footage taken during internal testing.
We hope you enjoy it.

8/19/05:

It's a recent video from the alpha client. This is an amateur video, not an official release.

Originally posted by javac

it only sounds like yammering because most of the readers here have never worked in software development before. they just naively assume the game just magically springs into being and features just write themselves.

 

software development is SLOW. the design-code-test cycle takes TIME even with a large development team, and most of the time, there's nothing new to report.

 

be thankful these guys are ballsy enough that they even provide biweekly updates of development progress -- 99% of software companies don't.

Yes, everyone here is "yammering" because we want a software development job. I believe the posts thus far are centering around the video, or the lack of real information... I am unsure how software development experience or "design-code-test cycle"  experience (especially since they are supposedly finished with the "design-code" portion of the "design-code-test cycle") applies.

Also, please buy a dictionary, or use an oline one...
 

bi·week·ly adjective, noun, plural -lies, adverb

 Source on 99% of software companies don't provide bi-weekly updates? While you are at it, for a point of reference, find the percentage of software companies that actually release software. And how many of those are successful (i.e. at least "break even"). Also, since many if not most "software" don't make games, let alone MMORPG's, please find a stastistic on how many game software companies provide biweekly updates. Subscription-based MMORPG software companies would be ideal.

This update kind of sucked. I mean, we were all waiting for the video and he's basically telling us what the video will be like and that it might not even be next friday.  

"There's a video coming out, most probably next week, or shortly after."

I'm sorry, but to anyone with a bit of common sense, this is virtually a guarantee that you will NOT be seeing the video in August.

Originally posted by 123123456202

this video will turn 50,000 people away from darkfall or brings the fan base to a million.

I think this video definately holds a lot of potential to either dramatically build or damage te fan base. Fingers crossed it lives up to Tasos' description. Two weeks to go....

May: comprehensive video coming in the next few weeks..

July: Comprehensive video coming NEXT MONTH

End of August: Next week or "shortly after"..

Anyone seeing a pattern yet?

If this video is taken with Fraps as he says and they have over 1 TB of video since May, please tell me how it would take from May until September (or longer, who knows) to find some of the better parts of all that video to slap into a video for us.

If they spent half as much time just giving up some better parts of that video footage and quit making empty promises, then we would have already had tons of video like back in June.

And to all you fans. 'Shortly after" could mean any damn thing. In July, it was "next month". Now that it is the end of August, it is not next week, but almost for certain "shortly after". And in the mind of Tasos, I'm sure the video being given in December would qualify as "shortly after".

Don't get your hopes up for anything "substantial" being released anytime soon.

I'm betting that their next big update is NOT the video, but rather another bunch of crap coming from Tasos as to why the video hasn't launched yet because one of their workers has a family crisis, or that their computers were corrupted, or who knows.

What I cannot believe is how all you fans believe every word he says like it is gospel. Look back people. Was his words in May "gospel"? How about his promise of "next month" back in July now that we almost certainly know it will not be released this month.

May... June...July...August... "Still waiting". Imagine that. Never woulda guessed that they'd be here now at the end of August stretching it out just a "little" longer. No, I never predicted this would happen. (only about 10 times) LMAO.

"Shortly after next week" guys! ...Whatever in the hell THAT means.

- Zaxx

Originally posted by galantgone

Originally posted by 123123456202

this video will turn 50,000 people away from darkfall or brings the fan base to a million.

can you just feel the tension?  My balls are all sweaty with anticipation.

Originally posted by Aragoni

Not really IMO. It also said that some things are delayed but it won't affect their 2008-release *happy* and that more people are joining the Aventurine team.

If this guy still really believes this is launching this year he's one of the most incompetent people i've ever seen. There's no way in hell this game is launching anywhere this year and the fact that he even still says it will 3 months from the end of the year is borderline scammy.

No you don't understand. The game will launch in 2008.  Its just going to launch in a very small remote part of greece where a very selective branch of players will get to play until the Grand World Launch in 2009.  You didn't see that memo?

Originally posted by Tasos

 

There's a video coming out, most probably next week, or shortly after.

Is there some strange reason as to why this video was not released in the first week of August rather than waiting to the very last minute of the month to relase it or possibly not even releasing it this month at all?

It doesnt take more than a full day to edit a video.

Originally posted by galantgone

Originally posted by Tasos

 

There's a video coming out, most probably next week, or shortly after.

Is there some strange reason as to why this video was not released in the first week of August rather than waiting to the very last minute of the month to relase it or possibly not even releasing it this month at all?

It doesnt take more than a full day to edit a video.

You act like the only thing they ahve to do all day is make a video.... Get a clue... Ever work on a large project?  Their are tons and tons of things that need to be check, recheck and then check again, then if something is wrong, it needs to be re worked...

You nor I have any idea what they spend all day doing, stop talking out of your ass for once and use some common sense... The video is not the only thing they are working on.

Lets use some common sense, shall we... Feature complete means the game is done, they are currently testing the game... meaning when they find a bug, the programmers have to go back in and find the problem, fix the problem, then everyone has to re patch and the testing starts again... That is how it works in simple terms.

So to say it takes less then a day to edit a video is true but you do not know how much time they have to spend on the video which is not high on their list but since you dont know how to use common sense you keep on hating blindly.