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Trueth 8/21/08 5:22:07 PM
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Joined: 8/21/08 |
Laura Genender (condolences to her friends and family) wrote:
“Vanguard makes a good game a couple hours a day, or only a couple days a week, but hardcore play or long-term play just aren't options, yet.”
She is right, in a way. Where she uses the word ‘yet’ I would replace it with ‘anymore’.
The one thing most MMO gamers seem to to do, myself included, is compare their game to WoW and wonder, if down the line their game will sell-out and try to become more like the WoW monster. In Vangaurd’s case the answer, unfortunately – Is a very big yes.
Vanguard has sold out and gone the path of simplifed game mechanics, easier leveling curve and in game ‘help’ items that by in large trivialize the challenge of a fantasy MMO while taking away the feeling of accomplishment, and replacing it with instant gratification.
This is clearly documented in Vanguard’s exit poll, which asks the following:
What led you to quit?
It was too difficult to level.
It was too difficult to move around.
It was too difficult to find quests.
It was too difficult to get a mount.
It was too difficult to get a house/boat.
It is loaded ‘polls’ like the above that insult the average gamer, and are offered not to actually gauge why players are leaving, but to justify the one-way vision of the games developers.
The community has tried to stem the tide. In this thread members cried out to not have the development team’s new idea of Bikini armor implemented
In this thread (originated by lead dev.Silius) members overwhelmingly supported the idea of a server with Vanguard’s original rule-set. 26 pages of /signed. The thread was then killed by the staff with nothing but a very odd explanation.
In this thread the community once again begged for an original rule-set server (6 months later). The thread was locked.
In this thread members discuss the possibility that Vanguard has undergone a slow motion NGE.
In this poll the community overwhelmingly voted to remove the Bind on Pick-up tag for loot (bind on pick-up made it so you couldn’t sell gear that was dropped by monsters.) The change was not implemented, and only the less desirable ‘blue’ items were re-tagged as being able to be sold.
The above is indisputable and is a matter of fact. Vanguard has sold out.
The developers and rabid fanbois (all 9 of them) use words like ‘tedium’ to justify the changes. Sadly, what they don’t realize is that having everything handed to you, or getting everything with little to no effort is just as tedious, if not more so – Than having to ‘grind’.
Vanguard’s attempt to be something it was never intended to be (casual wanna be WoW with slightly deeper PVE) is it’s failing.
Aside from the ‘easy street’ mentality, long standing bugs still abound.
The list is so long in fact that it’s almost pointless to continue, but trust me – I could.
It should also be noted that Vanguard's producer, Phathom aka Thom Terrazas, has not addressed the Vanguard community for over 8 months. And as of July, is apparently too busy to even post his own producers letter.
MMORPG’s own writer Fatebringer aka J Anderson will soon be writing about PVP in Vangaurd. That should be an interesting read since PVP within Vanguard has not been touched since the game was released.
Vanguard: Saga of Heros = Death by the slow and consistent loss of meaning.
The coroner’s report will read: Self Inflicted. |
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Vespers 8/21/08 8:12:51 PM
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Joined: 6/12/06 |
I see you just joined these forums the same day that you made this post. Nice troll. Please do not feed as it will give the troll a bigger ass. |
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Umbral 8/21/08 8:18:09 PM
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Joined: 5/29/08 |
He is not a troll Vespers. What he said is true and you can find similar discussion in Vanguard´s official forum. Why do you belive he is trolling? He didnt lied, he used good arguments... You may disagree with the OP, but what he said is supported by Vanguard´s players that enjoyied the original game concept.
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Golempire 8/21/08 8:49:32 PM
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Joined: 12/17/06 |
Amen, |
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sigamon 8/21/08 8:54:50 PM
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Novice Member
Joined: 11/22/06
I have AIDS |
i didnt take time at all to even read any of the posts here cause im lazy and fat and sweaty. so there. vangaurd is actually a great game now. play on seradon's server theres actually a lot of people. its not hard to move its just like any other game. theres tons of options and possiblitlies with things to do. theres still bugs and crap but not as bad as launch. and you can play without crashing at all now. most of the community is badass to unlike most games were everyone is a douche. id still be playing VG right now if my g/f's computer didnt suck so much ass.
remember that one time in Tursh when we had a pizza party and high fived each other until the sun went down? |
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Shol 8/21/08 9:13:07 PM
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Joined: 7/08/08 |
Well he created the account just for this post, he tries to argue with some valid arguments mixed with a lot of spin. Check for youself the links, its a time-range from february 2008 until today and most of the links lead to threads where you find the usual discussions in such games. " to stem the tide" "cried out" "overwhelmingly supported" "killed by" "begged for " "overwhelmingly voted" and so on. That sounds like out of the rainbow press. Than a passage about fanbois to make sure he gets some angry replies.
No sorry, that looks pretty trollish to me. This will be my only post in this thread. > The reigns on camel mounts still show as upside down and backwards Made me laugh. |
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Trueth 8/21/08 9:13:50 PM
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Joined: 8/21/08 |
Whoa Vespers!
Did I hit a nerve? It’s ok…let it all out. Although I expect your next post to be written in all caps, k?
Seriously, I didn’t make anything up. The proof is in the links. Click them and read.
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I don't get the big deal about my registration date. If I have something to say I have to post, to post - I must register. It just happened that day was today.
Is this a numerology thing?
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Check it The author registered on this board 7/31/08. His post in that thread was his first. Kinda odd how that it is. Did you ravage him with troll comments and speculation about the day his account was created?
Or is it more that you just don't like what I have to say?
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Ekibiogami 8/21/08 9:20:06 PM
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Joined: 11/22/06
Grammatically Retarded. |
This is my view on the game atm. the Op is NOT trolling. it really is this sad. |
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brostyn 8/21/08 9:33:17 PM
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