I have to be honest...Ive played RuneScape for 2 years and it has been my favorite MMO for those 2 years...but...I couldnt agree with you more. I figured when I clicked this thread that it would be another noob flaming RuneScape for its graphics and thats it, but your points are probably the best ones..Totally agree. The one I agree most with is Jagex doesnt care about you, they just want your money. So true it hurts, their giving F2P people a bunch of new updates, and they punished US HONEST PLAYERS for real world traders. Gf Jagex..

-quote - "Note to mods: I AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE ANYBODY CURSE OR TRYING TO MAKE ANYBODY BREAK ANY RULE IN ANY WAY, i am purely trying to express my openion (and several thousand's of others)

why this game sucks:

1. its a grindfest, the game is ALL grinding (you have to put in hundreds of hours into the game)

2.no good pvp system with real rewards anymore (removal of wilderness and replaced with crap)

3.Super slow paced (point,click, wait 2 minutes, repeat..)

4. the community is 92% of little kids under 12 who call everyone "noobs" and cuss and  whine and think there 1337

5.game mechanics stink (point, click, move)

6.Jagex dosent care about what you think should be or shouldnt be in the game, all they want is your money

7.99.7% of the "updates" are nerf's

8.The customer support is non-existant

9.People get banned for no reason

10.Graphics utterly suck (even WoW's is better) Being a browser based game is not an excuse, peroid.

11. the other .3% of updates are updates the noobs commanded and makes the game worse" - quote -

You're the biggest retard ever.

first of all number 6 - witch company doesnt want peoples money?

number 1 - grindfest stop useing your fucking wow slang. we all know that wow is a fucking grindfest too all u do in wow is attack thats all attack!

The one thing is runescape creators are the only game creators care about the community who actualy do something that can ruin the game for the sake of making it fair gameplay such as getting rid of wild they new it was big risk but it was for a good reason - realy world tradeing - and world of warcraft does nothing. against gold selling ect ect botting ect ect

Originally posted by wise_old_man

-quote - "Note to mods: I AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE ANYBODY CURSE OR TRYING TO MAKE ANYBODY BREAK ANY RULE IN ANY WAY, i am purely trying to express my openion (and several thousand's of others)

why this game sucks:

1. its a grindfest, the game is ALL grinding (you have to put in hundreds of hours into the game)

2.no good pvp system with real rewards anymore (removal of wilderness and replaced with crap)

3.Super slow paced (point,click, wait 2 minutes, repeat..)

4. the community is 92% of little kids under 12 who call everyone "noobs" and cuss and  whine and think there 1337

5.game mechanics stink (point, click, move)

6.Jagex dosent care about what you think should be or shouldnt be in the game, all they want is your money

7.99.7% of the "updates" are nerf's

8.The customer support is non-existant

9.People get banned for no reason

10.Graphics utterly suck (even WoW's is better) Being a browser based game is not an excuse, peroid.

11. the other .3% of updates are updates the noobs commanded and makes the game worse" - quote -

 

You're the biggest retard ever.

first of all number 6 - witch company doesnt want peoples money?

number 1 - grindfest stop useing your fucking wow slang. we all know that wow is a fucking grindfest too all u do in wow is attack thats all attack!

The one thing is runescape creators are the only game creators care about the community who actualy do something that can ruin the game for the sake of making it fair gameplay such as getting rid of wild they new it was big risk but it was for a good reason - realy world tradeing - and world of warcraft does nothing. against gold selling ect ect botting ect ect

 

First of all what luckpotato was implying is that they would change the game even though it will upset most the community. true that all companies want money but the changes they make are pathetic. are you saying that jagex cares about making fair gameplay by removing wilderness? dude man real world trading happens all the time and games are doing their best to stop it and jagex did not make the best choice. and you say world of warcraft does nothing? dont make assumptions if you dont know what blizzard does about botters and gold sellers. world of warcraft does a far better job then runescape to "supposely make the game fair?". they ban the botters, ip ban them those companies which have like hundreds of computers on botted to continue farm and then sell gold. ban players who buy gold etc etc. all without effecting the gameplay while for runescape they fucked up their gameplay and i dont think they even comtemplated the fact that the game is fucked with a stupid trade limit and removal of wilderness. the wilderness being the most important aspect of the game.

also runescape is a fucking grindfest. there is absolutely NO SKILL involved when you achieve high levels in mining, smithing etc etc. those who have lv 99 everything just happen to have no life and arnt bored of repeating the same steps to achieve high levels. for example runescape mining:

1. mine the ores

2. bank the ores

3. repeat steps 1,2  A LOT OF FUCKING TIMES IF YOU WANT THE FUCKING LEVEL.

absolutely no skill involved just repeating the same process. and if you say world of warcraft is a grindfest then every game is a grindfest cause every game wants people to achieve the best of whatever. the only difference is that some games make achieving titles exciting and fun without it being a dull hours wasting process.

Originally posted by wise_old_man

-You're the biggest retard ever.

There is no need to flame other members, everyone has a right to voice their opinions without the use of insults directed to other members. There is a forum for that here it is called spam, and this is not that forum.

first of all number 6 - witch company doesnt want peoples money?

SOme companies out there such as Anet are actually concerned about making a great game and not just a money pit. So yes there are still some that actually care about their players, and yea the amazing thing with them is that not only do they provide the best quality of customer support I have seen in the industry, they do not even charge a monthly fee to access that. LOL!

number 1 - grindfest stop useing your fucking wow slang. we all know that wow is a fucking grindfest too all u do in wow is attack thats all attack!

LOL I have heard that term long before WOW ever existed. LMAO.  Play games much?  I even remember like 6 or7 years ago People calling Runescape a grindorama. hahaha!

The one thing is runescape creators are the only game creators care about the community who actualy do something that can ruin the game for the sake of making it fair gameplay such as getting rid of wild they new it was big risk but it was for a good reason - realy world tradeing - and world of warcraft does nothing. against gold selling ect ect botting ect ect

 This is so blatently wrong. Jagex does not care about it's players or it's community. In fact they have been doing everything in their power to ruin their community.

1. They mass banned moms for helping their kids, Teachers for helping their students and grannies for helping their grandkids last year. THEY MADE KINDNESS BANABLE.

2. It is the young kids on the game that scam, spam, and mispell profanity walking around talking about their weeners. Instead of banning them and enforcing their 13+ age limit policies they do the exact opposite and lift the 13 age rule and make them instead their target audiene. Thus alienating their mature community entirely.

3. They did not get rid of the wild for gold farmers alone, they just made them harder to catch. There are more RMT sites selling fully loaded characters and offering to train your account while you sleep ads than ever before. RMT on runescape is alive and well.. it is the community that was nerfed. They nerfed the wildy as the first steps in making the game a child safe and friendly game, they had other way more effective and profitable solutions to curb RMT and chose not to use them because they were not in their current framework of gearing their game for the childrens market. Maybe you can tell me why they chose the worst possible solution rather than one of the better more effective options if that was not their intent?

Why did they remove posts that offered better more effective solutions  prior to releasing the announcements about the fall updates with the only explanation as to why being" This is a matter Jagex takes very seriously and we regretfully have to remove this post" though the posts did not break any rules? 

I can Tell you why.. Jagex does not want their players to know they had better options, and would like to make their players believe that was their only choice to buy them some time while they make their transition into to childrens market. 

From Jagex themselves:

 "Adam Tuckwell is the “Safety Minister” and Head of PR at Jagex. He was proud to talk to me about Runescape's effort to make the game a safe environment for under children under the age of 13. Previously, players had to to be 13+ to play the game. Runescape launched the under 13 game in June. This provides a Quick Chat interface, and children under 13 can only see Quick Chat text from other players of the under 13 game. This game is Coppa compliant, and have been awarded Best in Class by the IWF (Internet Watch Foundation). Since the launch of the under 13 game, Jagex has seen a 40% increase in Runescape registrations. 

In the Quarter 2 or 3 of 2009, the Parental Controls dashboard will be launched. This provides parents with the means to set how often and how long their children can play Runescape, set various chat settings and have various controls over their children's Friends List – such as the ability to add friends with or without parental approval."

 

 

 

 

 

Originally posted by wise_old_man

-quote - "Note to mods: I AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE ANYBODY CURSE OR TRYING TO MAKE ANYBODY BREAK ANY RULE IN ANY WAY, i am purely trying to express my openion (and several thousand's of others)

why this game sucks:

1. its a grindfest, the game is ALL grinding (you have to put in hundreds of hours into the game)

2.no good pvp system with real rewards anymore (removal of wilderness and replaced with crap)

3.Super slow paced (point,click, wait 2 minutes, repeat..)

4. the community is 92% of little kids under 12 who call everyone "noobs" and cuss and  whine and think there 1337

5.game mechanics stink (point, click, move)

6.Jagex dosent care about what you think should be or shouldnt be in the game, all they want is your money

7.99.7% of the "updates" are nerf's

8.The customer support is non-existant

9.People get banned for no reason

10.Graphics utterly suck (even WoW's is better) Being a browser based game is not an excuse, peroid.

11. the other .3% of updates are updates the noobs commanded and makes the game worse" - quote -

 

You're the biggest retard ever.

first of all number 6 - witch company doesnt want peoples money?

number 1 - grindfest stop useing your fucking wow slang. we all know that wow is a fucking grindfest too all u do in wow is attack thats all attack!

The one thing is runescape creators are the only game creators care about the community who actualy do something that can ruin the game for the sake of making it fair gameplay such as getting rid of wild they new it was big risk but it was for a good reason - realy world tradeing - and world of warcraft does nothing. against gold selling ect ect botting ect ect

 

i don't play wow anymore quit  a long time ago but the 1 thing WoW has going for it is they don't put up with gold sellers or botters, thats the one point i will defend them on. you do know they are the only company to sue and win in court against a gold seller company and put them out of buisness right? (peons.com RIP scumbags)
 

Originally posted by wise_old_man 

You're the biggest retard ever.

first of all number 6 - witch company doesnt want peoples money?

number 1 - grindfest stop useing your fucking wow slang. we all know that wow is a fucking grindfest too all u do in wow is attack thats all attack!

The one thing is runescape creators are the only game creators care about the community who actualy do something that can ruin the game for the sake of making it fair gameplay such as getting rid of wild they new it was big risk but it was for a good reason - realy world tradeing - and world of warcraft does nothing. against gold selling ect ect botting ect ect

 

Yet another fine example of the community that defends ruinedscape. Thanks for showing everyone here what 90% of the runescape community is like now.

Keep in mind the community wasn't always full of immature little kids flaming everyone.

Originally posted by wise_old_man

-quote - "Note to mods: I AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE ANYBODY CURSE OR TRYING TO MAKE ANYBODY BREAK ANY RULE IN ANY WAY, i am purely trying to express my openion (and several thousand's of others)

why this game sucks:

1. its a grindfest, the game is ALL grinding (you have to put in hundreds of hours into the game)

2.no good pvp system with real rewards anymore (removal of wilderness and replaced with crap)

3.Super slow paced (point,click, wait 2 minutes, repeat..)

4. the community is 92% of little kids under 12 who call everyone "noobs" and cuss and  whine and think there 1337

5.game mechanics stink (point, click, move)

6.Jagex dosent care about what you think should be or shouldnt be in the game, all they want is your money

7.99.7% of the "updates" are nerf's

8.The customer support is non-existant

9.People get banned for no reason

10.Graphics utterly suck (even WoW's is better) Being a browser based game is not an excuse, peroid.

11. the other .3% of updates are updates the noobs commanded and makes the game worse" - quote -

 

You're the biggest retard ever.

first of all number 6 - witch company doesnt want peoples money?

number 1 - grindfest stop useing your fucking wow slang. we all know that wow is a fucking grindfest too all u do in wow is attack thats all attack!

The one thing is runescape creators are the only game creators care about the community who actualy do something that can ruin the game for the sake of making it fair gameplay such as getting rid of wild they new it was big risk but it was for a good reason - realy world tradeing - and world of warcraft does nothing. against gold selling ect ect botting ect ect

 

Sure companies want people's money, but only rs wants it for stupidities. Why do you keep bringing up wow? We're talking about rs. Taking away the wildy was the most darastic choice on the list. These were probably there 2 options: 1. make a good choice without taking away the wildy. 2. Take the wildy away ergo making the dumbest decision.
 

Originally posted by plqx

1 - Runescape has a large variety. Yes, to train each individual skill is a grind... If training one skill and one skill only for a long period of time is what you want to do. However, if you don't want to grind you don't have to - you can still experience the vast majority of the game without it.

2 - It is a matter of opinion what makes a good pvp system. But the rewards are exactly the same as they always have been - and a good deal better than most other mmorpgs.

3 - what do you mean by this? that levels go slowly? If so, I challenge you to find me a decent mmo where the levels don't go slowly by the end. Oh wait, there aren't any... If you are talking about lag - try using a better world for you.

4 - Replace 92% with 2% and you would be about right. However this is indeed a problem (although one which seems to have reduced substantially over the last few months), and one of the downsides of Runescape. Why is this the case? Because the game is so accessible. You don't have to spend hours downloading it, and you can play for free. Of course you will get idiots playing. It is a shame, but it is a price that, in my opinion, is worth paying.

5 - There are a lot of mmos that use clicking to move. To be honest I don't really care whether a game uses arrow keys or the mouse. What difference does it make?

6 - I am yet to come across another gaming company that cares as much as Jagex does about what people want... Even the updates at the end of last year - complaints about bots were far more common than complaints about the wildy are now... And even if they did only want your money... how would they go about getting it? That's right - by implementing updates that people want.  An example of a far more money-hungry gaming company would be Aeria games - who just create various games and then never update them other than to create new items for the item mall - which have to be bought for real world cash. I am glad to say that selling items in such a way is something that Jagex have chosen not to do - and any firm that just cared about cash wouldn't hesitate to do.

7 - load of nonsense. How many nerfs have there been so far this year? Oh wait... None.

8 - also a load of nonsense. Many jmods are active on the forums, and they are frequently sighted in game. You can (and should) report any rulebreakers you see easily via an anonymous in-game facility. There is a very high number of players per customer support jmod simply because of the huge number of players.

9 - everyone who claims they were banned for no reason is lying. Everyone. People have been muted for no significant reason before - usually due to a misunderstanding by a player moderator.

10 - have you played runescape since the graphical update? Nope, thought not. While these may not be the best in the business, can you blame them given that it is a browser based game. The runescape graphics are way better than ANY other browser based game in existance.

#1-5 - I agree completely

#6 - So caring that it took them around 7 MONTHS to bring back what we wanted. (pk)

#7 - Some have been bad.

#8 - From what I have seen of Customer Support, they are no help.

#9 - I agree.

#10 - Graphics are fairly good, especially for its speed on the fact that no download is nessessary

lmao! UPDATE: Runescape blows! this is all news to me.

Originally posted by plqx

Originally posted by luckypotato

Note to mods: I AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE ANYBODY CURSE OR TRYING TO MAKE ANYBODY BREAK ANY RULE IN ANY WAY, i am purely trying to express my openion (and several thousand's of others)

why this game sucks:

1. its a grindfest, the game is ALL grinding (you have to put in hundreds of hours into the game)

2.no good pvp system with real rewards anymore (removal of wilderness and replaced with crap)

3.Super slow paced

4. the community is 92% of little kids under 12 who call everyone "noobs" and cuss and  whine and think there 1337

5.game mechanics stink (point, click, move)

6.Jagex dosent care about what you think should be or shouldnt be in the game, all they want is your money

7.99.7% of the "updates" are nerf's

8.The customer support is non-existant

9.People get banned for no reason

10.Graphics utterly suck (even WoW's is better)

 

~~~~~(i used to play runescape...when it still was a good game..but now its a horrible game..dont ask)

 

Thank you

~luckypotato

 

1 - Runescape has a large variety. Yes, to train each individual skill is a grind... If training one skill and one skill only for a long period of time is what you want to do. However, if you don't want to grind you don't have to - you can still experience the vast majority of the game without it.

2 - It is a matter of opinion what makes a good pvp system. But the rewards are exactly the same as they always have been - and a good deal better than most other mmorpgs.

3 - what do you mean by this? that levels go slowly? If so, I challenge you to find me a decent mmo where the levels don't go slowly by the end. Oh wait, there aren't any... If you are talking about lag - try using a better world for you.

4 - Replace 92% with 2% and you would be about right. However this is indeed a problem (although one which seems to have reduced substantially over the last few months), and one of the downsides of Runescape. Why is this the case? Because the game is so accessible. You don't have to spend hours downloading it, and you can play for free. Of course you will get idiots playing. It is a shame, but it is a price that, in my opinion, is worth paying.

5 - There are a lot of mmos that use clicking to move. To be honest I don't really care whether a game uses arrow keys or the mouse. What difference does it make?

6 - I am yet to come across another gaming company that cares as much as Jagex does about what people want... Even the updates at the end of last year - complaints about bots were far more common than complaints about the wildy are now... And even if they did only want your money... how would they go about getting it? That's right - by implementing updates that people want.  An example of a far more money-hungry gaming company would be Aeria games - who just create various games and then never update them other than to create new items for the item mall - which have to be bought for real world cash. I am glad to say that selling items in such a way is something that Jagex have chosen not to do - and any firm that just cared about cash wouldn't hesitate to do.

7 - load of nonsense. How many nerfs have there been so far this year? Oh wait... None.

8 - also a load of nonsense. Many jmods are active on the forums, and they are frequently sighted in game. You can (and should) report any rulebreakers you see easily via an anonymous in-game facility. There is a very high number of players per customer support jmod simply because of the huge number of players.

9 - everyone who claims they were banned for no reason is lying. Everyone. People have been muted for no significant reason before - usually due to a misunderstanding by a player moderator.

10 - have you played runescape since the graphical update? Nope, thought not. While these may not be the best in the business, can you blame them given that it is a browser based game. The runescape graphics are way better than ANY other browser based game in existance.

Have you ever even played the game?? Seriously.

Runescape's large variety isn't really variety considering you do the same thing for every skill. You click, wait and repeat.

The rewards suck. I don't want to waste 3 months getting a skill to level 99 to get a stupid cape that does nothing but a stupid emote and cause flaming from noobs.

If you ever even played runescape that long you would know that lvl 92 is the half way point for experience points in any skill. Most other mmorps do not have a leveling system that increases exponentially to the degree that runescape does. Its ridiculous.

The game is not worth paying for if you do have to deal with immature little kids and stupid updates which ruin the game.

Jagex doesn't care what players want. they care about money and only money. end of story.

There have been loads of nerfs recently. To list a few: pvp, economy, quests, rewards, minigames, wilderness, and trading. All of which have been nerfed.

There is a common belief among the majority of most runescape players that gold crowns are rarer than party hats. When was the last time you saw a jmod in the game. Of the 6 years I've played I've only seen one. Ive seen way more party hats than j mods. and party hats are the rarest item in the game in case you didnt know. excluding the christmas cracker which cant be seen except in trade windows.

Actually a lot of players I know including myself have been muted and/or banned for the dumbest reasons. So don't talk about things of which you clearly dont know anything about.

Yes i have played since the graphics update. The graphics are better admittingly but still have numerous flaws. Compared to many other games runescape's graphics are still substandard.

 I've never really understood a lot of these complaints.

It requires a long time to get to level 99 in most skills. OK, fair enough. But there's no reason you have to grind all the way to 99 in any skill. You really only need about 1/4 of the XP required to get 99 (about level 85) to be able to do almost everything in Runescape. 

Plus, Runescape has been around for 6 years, and will be around I'm sure for 6 more. You have years to get 99. What's the rush?

I'm guessing you want it all right now.

There are definitely a lot of less-than-mature players. Ignore them. You have an ignore list. I don't know how I manage to play and avoid all these people you seem to encounter.

I've never, ever had to make use of Customer Support in the 3 years I've played. Then again, I've never been banned or muted for breaking the rules. Nor have I felt the need to complain "when's the Wildy coming back".

I'm just curious why it seems so many of you just hang around here and grieve that Runescape isn't everything you want in a MMORPG. 

Find one that is what you want. Move on, and be positive. Dwelling in this negativity can't be good for your karma.

The fact that it's in a browser really isn't the problem. It's not browser based. Kings of Chaos is browser based. Runescape is a JAVA based game. They just decided to place it on the web. Just like Tribal Wars.

Also, you said that using click to move was better than wasd/other key commands because you like to type?... Type what? Get ye flask?

Originally posted by PhelimReagh

 I've never really understood a lot of these complaints.

It requires a long time to get to level 99 in most skills. OK, fair enough. But there's no reason you have to grind all the way to 99 in any skill. You really only need about 1/4 of the XP required to get 99 (about level 85) to be able to do almost everything in Runescape. 

Plus, Runescape has been around for 6 years, and will be around I'm sure for 6 more. You have years to get 99. What's the rush?

I have done everything in runescape, and I did not "rush" I have played it since it started. It was the biggest waste of time. There is no reason to get levels in this game because there is no rewards for them. When you get them you are disappointed because it wasn't worth the effort put into it/

I'm guessing you want it all right now.

No, but what I do want right now is fun interesting gameplay, not boring repetition. what I want is good customer service, and a company that cares about what it's players want. I want a fun game not The nonsense Jagex has been trying to spoon feed us.

There are definitely a lot of less-than-mature players. Ignore them. You have an ignore list. I don't know how I manage to play and avoid all these people you seem to encounter.

It is funny  about runescape it has the strictest chat filter, but yet it has the worst spam I have ever seen on any game. I have never had to ignore any player ever on any game I have ever played , why should I have to  here? The games I play with no chat filter have 110% better community .. go figure. If the game itself didn;t put everyone in such a bad mood on there I am sure that would help the game alot.

I've never, ever had to make use of Customer Support in the 3 years I've played. Then again, I've never been banned or muted for breaking the rules. Nor have I felt the need to complain "when's the Wildy coming back".

You never asked customer support anything? What about when the game kept rolling back and your previous kills suddenly were erased, or your previous sales just disappeared? or had 12m gp suddenly disappears out of your account? yea .. just try to contact them about anything and see how you are treated. LOL  You never asked them why they just banned a teacher for helping her students ? I  am not banned either, but that is no excuse for them not to provide friendly, helpful customer service to their paying members. Their customer service is rude and arrogant and does not care to help you.

After they wrongly banned my friend who was an ENGLISH TEACHER .. never did anything  but try to help her students on that game , never broke any rules , but banned her for  RWT when she never did what they said she did. She gave free stuff to kids on the game, because she was just that way... never did she ever accept $ for it.  Jagex seriously has their priorities mixed up.

 You assume that people have to be breaking rules in order to want to contact them, and this is completely false. Just to give you a heads up, Your account is the sole property of Jagex ltd, and they can take it from you at any time without evidence, regardless of if you broke any rules or not. I have played this game long enough to have seen that exact thing happen over and over and over again, and they will not accept player submitted screenshots, or any evidence that proves otherwise. I hope you do not care about your accounts much, because they sure as hell do not.

I'm just curious why it seems so many of you just hang around here and grieve that Runescape isn't everything you want in a MMORPG. 

SOme of us had alot of time and money invested in this game, only to have the  company demolish it. I gave Jagex thousands, yes thousands of dollars to make this game better and they ran it in ditch. You may be one that accepts substandard work, and if it disappoints you just quietly move on, but I for one move on yes, but sure as hell not quietly. I think those that just accept what is given and quietly leave are the ones that should be ashamed, as long as you do not speak up that is all you will ever be given. It is the people who have made their voices heard loud and clear that is the reason Jagex is bringing in the PVP worlds, but sadly that just isn't enough yet.

Find one that is what you want. Move on, and be positive. Dwelling in this negativity can't be good for your karma.

LOL. I have found good games, great companies, and I am very positive about their futures. This does not change the bad taste this game left in my mouth, and I will speak openly about exactly what this is. LOL @ my karma... everyone I know tells me I am the happiest girl they know.. it takes alot to set me off.. but with Jagex they have given me more than enough.  Trying to tell people to quiet down their restlessness with this game does not make the game any better, tell them to speak up so maybe , just maybe Jagex will one of these days wake up and listen and eventually make better games. Would you not rather then make a fun, challenging,  exciting game with a good community than the garbage they try to make you accept as the best the can do. They can do better, it is about time we stopped accepting that is the way it has to be simply because people are lazy.

Originally posted by Neiko

The fact that it's in a browser really isn't the problem. It's not browser based. Kings of Chaos is browser based. Runescape is a JAVA based game. They just decided to place it on the web. Just like Tribal Wars.

Also, you said that using click to move was better than wasd/other key commands because you like to type?... Type what? Get ye flask?

I agree. And TW is fun

I completely agree with PhelimReagh. Although the Customer Service is bad.

Originally posted by PhelimReagh

 I've never really understood a lot of these complaints.

It requires a long time to get to level 99 in most skills. OK, fair enough. But there's no reason you have to grind all the way to 99 in any skill. You really only need about 1/4 of the XP required to get 99 (about level 85) to be able to do almost everything in Runescape. 

Plus, Runescape has been around for 6 years, and will be around I'm sure for 6 more. You have years to get 99. What's the rush?

I'm guessing you want it all right now.

There are definitely a lot of less-than-mature players. Ignore them. You have an ignore list. I don't know how I manage to play and avoid all these people you seem to encounter.

I've never, ever had to make use of Customer Support in the 3 years I've played. Then again, I've never been banned or muted for breaking the rules. Nor have I felt the need to complain "when's the Wildy coming back".

I'm just curious why it seems so many of you just hang around here and grieve that Runescape isn't everything you want in a MMORPG. 

Find one that is what you want. Move on, and be positive. Dwelling in this negativity can't be good for your karma.

Well you obviously haven't played runescape that long. If you have then you surely would have run into some immature little punks. Also you would have had to make use of customer support at one time. If you haven't customer support then you haven't played long enough and therefore have no idea what you are talking about.

We hang around here because this game sucks and it took so much of our time and money. It also deserves all the things we have said about it. So yeah. Deal with it.

My karma is okay, not great but okay. I'm actually not as negative as I used to be.

Originally posted by PhelimReagh

 I've never really understood a lot of these complaints.

 

I've always found they were pretty straight forward.

It requires a long time to get to level 99 in most skills. OK, fair enough. But there's no reason you have to grind all the way to 99 in any skill. You really only need about 1/4 of the XP required to get 99 (about level 85) to be able to do almost everything in Runescape. 

The problem isn't how long the skillls take to level - I don't really mind that.  The real problem is the way the skills were designed.  They're so repetitive, boring, and uninteresting; there's no skill or technique involved (unless you call button mashing a skill).

Plus, Runescape has been around for 6 years, and will be around I'm sure for 6 more. You have years to get 99. What's the rush?

Again, there's no rush.  Read above.

I'm guessing you want it all right now.

AGAIN, read above.

There are definitely a lot of less-than-mature players. Ignore them. You have an ignore list. I don't know how I manage to play and avoid all these people you seem to encounter.

1)  I find it hard to believe how you don't encounter them.  It's almost impossible NOT to.  Take a trip to Lumbridge and read the general chat for 15 minutes; you'll see what we alla rgue about.

2)  The fact that players have to use their ignore list (or turn off their public chat) so often just proves our point.  In no game should one be forced to ignore the community they play with.

I've never, ever had to make use of Customer Support in the 3 years I've played. Then again, I've never been banned or muted for breaking the rules. Nor have I felt the need to complain "when's the Wildy coming back".

Apparently you haven't experienced the enjoyment of the wilderness.  If you had, you would be complaining.

Also, it's not only the wilderness.  It's the trade updates, the poor updates going on (they're STILL trying to fix things), the community, Jagex possibly lying on their number counter, aiming for a lower audience, the poor skills, the list just goes on.

I'm just curious why it seems so many of you just hang around here and grieve that Runescape isn't everything you want in a MMORPG. 

I'm surprised that RS fits your needs for an MMORPG.  How low are your standards?

Find one that is what you want. Move on, and be positive. Dwelling in this negativity can't be good for your karma.

I suppose you could call it dwelling. 

I don't really get the comment about the karma...I've moved on.  I'm waiting for other great games on the horizon, and I've played some other ones. 

If my karma was good, all this arguing would bring a Jagex dev to defend themselves on this forum.  I would have a field day with that :)

 -Mike

That is certainly your opinion. 6 million players can't be wrong.

Originally posted by myhero

That is certainly your opinion.

It's your opinion that RS is good.  Everything here is a matter of opinion.

6 million players can't be wrong.

In my mind they can.  Again, it's just everyone's opinion whether or not a game is good.

I'm sure I could find 6 million people that think RS is a bad game too.

Plqx... People like you that are in utter denial are the f___ing reason runescape is f___ed up in the first place.

and from this how are you telling other players? how are you trying to tell jagex about why or how, and how do you want to change it? what is it that your aiming for by telling other people to not play this game.

and remember... not all games are perfect, some are good at one point while bad in the rest