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nightblazerr Apprentice Member Joined: 12/20/07 Posts: 90	8/21/08 4:52:31 AM#21 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by pegleg Slow The combat is slow its makes want to . Oh and OMG the footsteps!!!!! Please for the love of MMOS have an option to turn off footsteps! The combat is slow in order to give you time to retreat or use strategy. This is so you don't run in and get 1-2 shoted by a bright wizard's fireball. It does however feel slow at times, doesn't really bother me except during pve a little maybe. I plan to avoid pve as much as I can though...
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snowchrome2 Apprentice Member Joined: 8/20/08 Posts: 237	8/21/08 4:55:18 AM#22 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by nightblazerr Originally posted by pegleg Slow The combat is slow its makes want to . Oh and OMG the footsteps!!!!! Please for the love of MMOS have an option to turn off footsteps! The combat is slow in order to give you time to retreat or use strategy. This is so you don't run in and get 1-2 shoted by a bright wizard's fireball. It does however feel slow at times, doesn't really bother me except during pve a little maybe. I plan to avoid pve as much as I can though... i disagree with you, if you mean by combat as in your normal attack that is slow then that is but combat as in a fight is not, because you will be using mostly your AP abilities anyway, it recharges quickly but you will run out of it quickly if you do a spam fest but in 1~2 seconds you use a next low cost AP again.
nightblazerr Apprentice Member Joined: 12/20/07 Posts: 90	8/21/08 5:17:18 AM#23 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) What are we talking about when we are saying combat is slow? The 2 sec global cooldown? How long fights can last? Our attack speed? Or whats the problem???
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Emotions Novice Member Joined: 3/11/04 Posts: 350	8/21/08 5:19:43 AM#25 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by nightblazerr What are we talking about when we are saying combat is slow? The 2 sec global cooldown? How long fights can last? Our attack speed? Or whats the problem??? No one knows some guys say it takes to long to kill someone. Someone else starts talking about the animations. Blar. Anyway its all good this way all the wow asses can stay in wow if they want fast and unbalanced pvp.
User Deleted	8/21/08 5:22:13 AM#26 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by skeaser I know this will get me flamed, but... Crap That's what I think of when I think of Warhammer, and that pains me, because after AoC failed me, even after I tried so hard to accept it, Warhammer remained my last shard of hope for the near future, however, I am not impressed with what I've seen. You're perfectly entitled to your opinion, but please give your opinion based on something concrete. This thread www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/174084 created by you says that you haven't played Warhammer at all.
skeaser Hard Core Member Joined: 6/13/07 Posts: 3439 Don't die mad, just die.	8/21/08 5:22:32 AM#27 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by snowchrome2 Originally posted by skeaser I know this will get me flamed, but... Crap That's what I think of when I think of Warhammer, and that pains me, because after AoC failed me, even after I tried so hard to accept it, Warhammer remained my last shard of hope for the near future, however, I am not impressed with what I've seen. honestly if you are not in the beta i can truly understand where you are coming from with you not being impressed with what you have seen. if you are in beta and still feel so, email mytic, more so email a letter for paul barrnet (yes he does get the emails, or an intern reads them for him) and tell them why you are not impressed. it has been know in beta that even if 10 people think something could be done better they will try and make it great. I was in beta, I've uninstalled. And it's not a BAD game...I think my biggest issue was I couldn't find a class I enjoyed, and something, just didn't feel right. I want to make clear, I'm not bashing the game, plenty of people are praising the beta and excited about release, but it just didn't pull me in. A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything. -Friedrich Nietzsche
skeaser Hard Core Member Joined: 6/13/07 Posts: 3439 Don't die mad, just die.	8/21/08 5:27:22 AM#28 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by nightblazerr Originally posted by skeaser I know this will get me flamed, but... Crap That's what I think of when I think of Warhammer, and that pains me, because after AoC failed me, even after I tried so hard to accept it, Warhammer remained my last shard of hope for the near future, however, I am not impressed with what I've seen. Then you didn't look hard enough. Either that or you prefer pve or guild based pvp. Warhammer is all about the rvr baby. If your looking for PVE go to WoW, Lord of the Rings online, or FFXI. If your looking for Guild based pvp, I don't really know cause I've hated that style since Shadowbane even though I gave Age of Conan a try. If your looking for RvR (Army vs Army) go to Dark Ages of Camelot or Warhammer Online. Yes I think warhammer is great, but its got its problems also, not many though. Hate to double post, but I didn't really see the RvR, maybe I didn't get far enough, but the first time I queued up and ended up in what might as well have been Arathi Basin from WoW, I rolled my eyes and left. Maybe I shoud fire it back up. I don't know if I would enjoy it though because they removed the 2 classes I was stoked about. I really was looking forward to the Choppa and the Blackgaurd. And to Noggin, about my previous post of not playing, that was back in April, I got in around the time the guild access started. All this hype is making me want to go see what I missed out on, though. I didn't get that epic exciting feeling when I played. Who knows, maybe release will feel better to me. A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything. -Friedrich Nietzsche
pegleg Novice Member Joined: 9/25/04 Posts: 181 Mastering the Art of Chill	8/21/08 5:27:26 AM#29 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by nightblazerr What are we talking about when we are saying combat is slow? The 2 sec global cooldown? How long fights can last? Our attack speed? Or whats the problem??? What are we talking about when we are saying combat is slow? The Animation is slow the combat is slow in term of how long it takes to down something. The 2 sec global cooldown? I haven't noticed that global, but that shouldn't be the issue ATM. How long fights can last? Most fights I've done in 1v1 have last a few moments to mins depends on what the other guys class Our attack speed? Not sure its the attack speed, but i have state before the animation in War seems very Stiff. Stiff = Slow to me. Or whats the problem??? All MMO's have grinds. If you don't like to Grind then MMO's are not for you.
skeaser Hard Core Member Joined: 6/13/07 Posts: 3439 Don't die mad, just die.	8/21/08 5:30:40 AM#30 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by pegleg Originally posted by nightblazerr What are we talking about when we are saying combat is slow? The 2 sec global cooldown? How long fights can last? Our attack speed? Or whats the problem??? What are we talking about when we are saying combat is slow? The Animation is slow the combat is slow in term of how long it takes to down something. The 2 sec global cooldown? I haven't noticed that global, but that shouldn't be the issue ATM. How long fights can last? Most fights I've done in 1v1 have last a few moments to mins depends on what the other guys class Our attack speed? Not sure its the attack speed, but i have state before the animation in War seems very Stiff. Stiff = Slow to me. Or whats the problem??? They really went all out making tanks be tanks. While they can take a hit, combat with them is PAINFUL in the beginning, I couldn't stick out a Black Orc past level 3. A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything. -Friedrich Nietzsche
User Deleted	8/21/08 5:34:38 AM#31 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by skeaser I was in beta. Sure?
Rabenwolf Apprentice Member Joined: 5/13/06 Posts: 1342	8/21/08 5:34:43 AM#32 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Noggin Fun. Actually it can be summed up with 1 picture, words are not even needed.
skeaser Hard Core Member Joined: 6/13/07 Posts: 3439 Don't die mad, just die.	8/21/08 5:36:40 AM#33 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Noggin Originally posted by skeaser I was in beta. Sure? Did you read my whole reply to your last comment? I posted the thread you linked on April 12, I got into beta around the time guild access started, which was July IIRC. I got into beta AFTER I complained about not getting in. Edit: You ninja edited me while I was replying! A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything. -Friedrich Nietzsche
User Deleted	8/21/08 5:37:52 AM#34 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by skeaser Originally posted by Noggin Originally posted by skeaser I was in beta. Sure? Did you read my whole reply to your last comment? I posted the thread you linked on April 12, I got into beta around the time guild access started, which was July IIRC. I got into beta AFTER I complained about not getting in. I see that now. My bad.
skeaser Hard Core Member Joined: 6/13/07 Posts: 3439 Don't die mad, just die.	8/21/08 5:40:34 AM#35 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Noggin Originally posted by skeaser Originally posted by Noggin Originally posted by skeaser I was in beta. Sure? Did you read my whole reply to your last comment? I posted the thread you linked on April 12, I got into beta around the time guild access started, which was July IIRC. I got into beta AFTER I complained about not getting in. I see that now. My bad. No worries. I am actually downloading the client again to give it another go, maybe this time I can get into it. I still can't figure out exactly what I didn't like, maybe I just need more time. I can't find any other game to play at the moment, so who know, maybe I can sink my teeth in. A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything. -Friedrich Nietzsche
nightblazerr Apprentice Member Joined: 12/20/07 Posts: 90	8/21/08 5:47:35 AM#36 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by skeaser Originally posted by nightblazerr Originally posted by skeaser I know this will get me flamed, but... Crap That's what I think of when I think of Warhammer, and that pains me, because after AoC failed me, even after I tried so hard to accept it, Warhammer remained my last shard of hope for the near future, however, I am not impressed with what I've seen. Then you didn't look hard enough. Either that or you prefer pve or guild based pvp. Warhammer is all about the rvr baby. If your looking for PVE go to WoW, Lord of the Rings online, or FFXI. If your looking for Guild based pvp, I don't really know cause I've hated that style since Shadowbane even though I gave Age of Conan a try. If your looking for RvR (Army vs Army) go to Dark Ages of Camelot or Warhammer Online. Yes I think warhammer is great, but its got its problems also, not many though. Hate to double post, but I didn't really see the RvR, maybe I didn't get far enough, but the first time I queued up and ended up in what might as well have been Arathi Basin from WoW, I rolled my eyes and left. Maybe I shoud fire it back up. I don't know if I would enjoy it though because they removed the 2 classes I was stoked about. I really was looking forward to the Choppa and the Blackgaurd. And to Noggin, about my previous post of not playing, that was back in April, I got in around the time the guild access started. All this hype is making me want to go see what I missed out on, though. I didn't get that epic exciting feeling when I played. Who knows, maybe release will feel better to me. Scenarios are not RVR, they are like WoW battlegrounds. RvR is the huge red cirlced areas of the maps where your leveling area and the enemy's leveling area overlap. It's where your entire army fights the other sides entire army in open world over objectives and keeps, later on using siege equipment in higher tiers. Eventually in the highest tier fighting your way right into the enemy capital city. The RvR part of city siege btw is not instanced but the PvE raiding that comes as a reward for capturing the city is.
Dameonk Hard Core Member Joined: 3/30/04 Posts: 1928	8/21/08 5:58:04 AM#37 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by nightblazerr What are we talking about when we are saying combat is slow? It's hard to describe. It's one of those things that someone can try to tell you why, but you don't really understand until you see it for yourself. I will try to point out a few areas that, to me, make the combat boring and not fun. 1. You can only use 1 skill every 2 seconds. This leads to very slow combat considering auto-attacks almost never happen due to the way they work. That means, on max, you are hitting once every 2 seconds (or longer if your attack has a build up). It's like fighting under water. 2. Attack animations are slow to perform. Again, it feels like you are fighting under water. The 2 sec global cooldown? Yes. How long fights can last? That too. Our attack speed? Yep. Or whats the problem??? All of the above. "There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer."
Dameonk Hard Core Member Joined: 3/30/04 Posts: 1928	8/21/08 5:59:55 AM#38 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by nightblazerr Scenarios are not RVR, they are like WoW battlegrounds. RvR is the huge red cirlced areas of the maps where your leveling area and the enemy's leveling area overlap. It's where your entire army fights the other sides entire army in open world over objectives and keeps, later on using siege equipment in higher tiers. Eventually in the highest tier fighting your way right into the enemy capital city. The RvR part of city siege btw is not instanced but the PvE raiding that comes as a reward for capturing the city is. Green part: Actually, it is. There's a max of people you can have vs. each other in the RvR city siege part. Once that cap is hit, it opens up a new instance of the RvR siege. "There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer."
Ipcryss Novice Member Joined: 9/16/06 Posts: 170 "...planet earth is blue and there''s nothing I can do..."	8/21/08 6:01:26 AM#39 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Potential
jaycee2006 Novice Member Joined: 4/19/07 Posts: 475 Veteran of the ongoing GOA disaster, 7th september 08. hah	8/21/08 6:04:40 AM#40 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Rabenwolf Originally posted by Noggin Fun. Actually it can be summed up with 1 picture, words are not even needed. Ahahahah that cheered me up a little.