Eve online now has both more users playing a day, AND total hours played per day

(this is ONLY counting XFire users)

Eve Rank #23 with 3711 users for 12161 hours

AoC Rank #24 with 3438 users for 11801 hours

Stats figured for Aug 19th

/flame on

I wonder if xfire double counts for people with multiple accounts (which is everyone that plays Eve).

Originally posted by Loben

I wonder if xfire double counts for people with multiple accounts (which is everyone that plays Eve).

it isnt everyone... I dont.

plus you are assuming you know the Eve playerbase... many do.... but not all

and Xfire doesnt count duo instances

oh you mean the game that runs in the background while watching a movie,i belive that

I doubt Eve has more subscribers than AoC though.  Eve has a very high appeal to internet geeks and is more hardcore then mainstream ( aoc has a box at best buy, eve doesn't).

The type of players to have xfire are much more likely to know about EVE.  Also Eve player continually 'recruit' players to post on forums and get stuff like xfire.  It's their only marketing.

Originally posted by Azrile

I doubt Eve has more subscribers than AoC though.  Eve has a very high appeal to internet geeks and is more hardcore then mainstream ( aoc has a box at best buy, eve doesn't).

The type of players to have xfire are much more likely to know about EVE.  Also Eve player continually 'recruit' players to post on forums and get stuff like xfire.  It's their only marketing.

eve has between 250k-300k active subs

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Originally posted by mscouts77

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Originally posted by Loben

I wonder if xfire double counts for people with multiple accounts (which is everyone that plays Eve).

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it isnt everyone... I dont.
plus you are assuming you know the Eve playerbase... many do.... but not all
and Xfire doesnt count duo instances

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It would only count double if they are using two computers, but most players using multiple accounts just log in both on the same computer. In fact, CCP just made some adjustments a while back to reduce the memory needed specifically so people COULD run multiple clients on a single box.

Originally posted by mscouts77

Originally posted by Loben

I wonder if xfire double counts for people with multiple accounts (which is everyone that plays Eve).

 

it isnt everyone... I dont.

plus you are assuming you know the Eve playerbase... many do.... but not all

and Xfire doesnt count duo instances

You just pointed out flaw on, in your definitive Xfire exposé. Xfire is not a measure of anything, but Xfire users.

Originally posted by SgtFrog

Originally posted by Azrile

I doubt Eve has more subscribers than AoC though.  Eve has a very high appeal to internet geeks and is more hardcore then mainstream ( aoc has a box at best buy, eve doesn't).

The type of players to have xfire are much more likely to know about EVE.  Also Eve player continually 'recruit' players to post on forums and get stuff like xfire.  It's their only marketing.

 

eve has between 250k-300k active subs

AOC has 400k+, and out of that, more concurrent users than eve CAN have, as eves max Concurrent users is around 35k.

Not that that’s not impressive foe Eve and its architecture. Eve is also a game that would fall under the title of "Failed" by many AOC haters here, that has clawed its way back up to creating revenue. How soon we all forget.

[quote]Originally posted by Mrbloodworth
[b][quote]Originally posted by mscouts77

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Originally posted by Loben

I wonder if xfire double counts for people with multiple accounts (which is everyone that plays Eve).

 
it isnt everyone... I dont.
plus you are assuming you know the Eve playerbase... many do.... but not all
and Xfire doesnt count duo instances

 
 
You just pointed out flaw on, in your definitive Xfire exposé. Xfire is not a measure of anything, but Xfire users.

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Originally posted by mscouts77
Eve online now has both more users playing a day, AND total hours played per day
(this is ONLY counting XFire users)
Eve Rank #23 with 3711 users for 12161 hours
AoC Rank #24 with 3438 users for 11801 hours
Stats figured for Aug 19th
/flame on

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Indeed, atleast according to OP thats the main point of this thread. I'm sure AoC and Eve have around the same number of subscriptions, but compared to eve; AoC's numbers will only go down. This is unless Funcom actually does something to prevent people from leaving and improving upon the game.
 

Again, we are talking about Eve here, have we forgotten its history?

Eve would qualify as "The Fa!l" by many haters here, and has pulled its self back up to being a financial success......YEARS later. AOC is already a finical success.

I’m not fighting the OP's post...Just put it back into perspective.

Just the difference is that AOC had a backing financial, running MMORPG experience, and well established company. CCP was far from that and was considered an indy developer. I wouldn't even begin to place a "Fail" on a non-commercial backing project such as Eve, rather it be one of the best success stories in MMORPG development. Think about it for a little bit next time.

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Originally posted by mscouts77

Originally posted by Loben

I wonder if xfire double counts for people with multiple accounts (which is everyone that plays Eve).

 

it isnt everyone... I dont.

plus you are assuming you know the Eve playerbase... many do.... but not all

and Xfire doesnt count duo instances

 

 

You just pointed out flaw on, in your definitive Xfire exposé. Xfire is not a measure of anything, but Xfire users.

 

Originally posted by SgtFrog

Originally posted by Azrile

I doubt Eve has more subscribers than AoC though.  Eve has a very high appeal to internet geeks and is more hardcore then mainstream ( aoc has a box at best buy, eve doesn't).

The type of players to have xfire are much more likely to know about EVE.  Also Eve player continually 'recruit' players to post on forums and get stuff like xfire.  It's their only marketing.

 

eve has between 250k-300k active subs

AOC has 400k+, and out of that, more concurrent users than eve CAN have, as eves max Concurrent users is around 35k.

 

Not that that’s not impressive foe Eve and its architecture. Eve is also a game that would fall under the title of "Failed" by many AOC haters here, that has clawed its way back up to creating revenue. How soon we all forget.

AoC doesn't have 400k subscribers. So you mean to tell me with all the backlash they have the same amount of subs now, as they did at the end of June?  Anyone that believes this is living in a fantasy world, say hello to Mickey Mouse for me pal.

Originally posted by SgtFrog

Originally posted by Azrile

I doubt Eve has more subscribers than AoC though.  Eve has a very high appeal to internet geeks and is more hardcore then mainstream ( aoc has a box at best buy, eve doesn't).

The type of players to have xfire are much more likely to know about EVE.  Also Eve player continually 'recruit' players to post on forums and get stuff like xfire.  It's their only marketing.

 

eve has between 250k-300k active subs

which will be about 100k more than AOC will have soon

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Originally posted by mscouts77

Originally posted by Loben

I wonder if xfire double counts for people with multiple accounts (which is everyone that plays Eve).

 

it isnt everyone... I dont.

plus you are assuming you know the Eve playerbase... many do.... but not all

and Xfire doesnt count duo instances

 

 

You just pointed out flaw on, in your definitive Xfire exposé. Xfire is not a measure of anything, but Xfire users.

 

Originally posted by SgtFrog

Originally posted by Azrile

I doubt Eve has more subscribers than AoC though.  Eve has a very high appeal to internet geeks and is more hardcore then mainstream ( aoc has a box at best buy, eve doesn't).

The type of players to have xfire are much more likely to know about EVE.  Also Eve player continually 'recruit' players to post on forums and get stuff like xfire.  It's their only marketing.

 

eve has between 250k-300k active subs

AOC has 400k+, and out of that, more concurrent users than eve CAN have, as eves max Concurrent users is around 35k.

 

Not that that’s not impressive foe Eve and its architecture. Eve is also a game that would fall under the title of "Failed" by many AOC haters here, that has clawed its way back up to creating revenue. How soon we all forget.

Actually its around 50,000. Also EvE's architecture is designed to be easily extended which means that when the Concurent users approaches 50,000 CCP will just add more server Nodes and Re-distibute the nodes.

Also concerning EvE clawing its way back up to finantial success.

AOC had backing from investors and was being put together by a large software company with prior experience and could afford a LOT of advertisement. EvE however had very little finantial backing [i belive it was mainly a subsidy from Iceland] from begining to end and was being put together by a new company with a small number of people whose prior gaming experience included playing UO and amking a bourd game whose profits were used to fund EvE. And EvE had very little advertising.

So all things considered for an indy game that tried to be different by not going down the WoW route it did pretty well especially considering that since it went live its been steadily and constantly growing in Paying accounts.

Originally posted by Chill_Factor

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Originally posted by mscouts77

Originally posted by Loben

I wonder if xfire double counts for people with multiple accounts (which is everyone that plays Eve).

 

it isnt everyone... I dont.

plus you are assuming you know the Eve playerbase... many do.... but not all

and Xfire doesnt count duo instances

 

 

You just pointed out flaw on, in your definitive Xfire exposé. Xfire is not a measure of anything, but Xfire users.

 

Originally posted by SgtFrog

Originally posted by Azrile

I doubt Eve has more subscribers than AoC though.  Eve has a very high appeal to internet geeks and is more hardcore then mainstream ( aoc has a box at best buy, eve doesn't).

The type of players to have xfire are much more likely to know about EVE.  Also Eve player continually 'recruit' players to post on forums and get stuff like xfire.  It's their only marketing.

 

eve has between 250k-300k active subs

AOC has 400k+, and out of that, more concurrent users than eve CAN have, as eves max Concurrent users is around 35k.

 

Not that that’s not impressive foe Eve and its architecture. Eve is also a game that would fall under the title of "Failed" by many AOC haters here, that has clawed its way back up to creating revenue. How soon we all forget.

AoC doesn't have 400k subscribers. So you mean to tell me with all the backlash they have the same amount of subs now, as they did at the end of June?  Anyone that believes this is living in a fantasy world, say hello to Mickey Mouse for me pal.

+1

AOC doesn`t have 400k subs

AOC today = 200 or 300

give it another 3 months and AoC will be looking up EQ's skirts.

I don't think you guys want to pull the AoC vs Eve debate.

Seriously, you're playing with fire if you do.

Once Eve lets players walk around space stations the subs are going to Jump.

Have you seen the atmospheric flight demo? once we can fly around in a planets atmosphere its over.

Eve has tremendous possibilities while AoC is created by a company that destroyed one of the better Sci-fi skill based hybrid mmo's with crappy expansions and lack of attention.

I try to stick up for AoC cause I had hope it would at least be as good as vanguard.

For the eve fan that posted about eve in a AoC forum, you have disgraced Eve and yourself for even posting a topic of a much superior game in this failing games forums.

Originally posted by metalhead980

I don't think you guys want to pull the AoC vs Eve debate.

Seriously, you're playing with fire if you do.

Once Eve lets players walk around space stations the subs are going to Jump.

Have you seen the atmospheric flight demo? once we can fly around in a planets atmosphere its over.

Eve has tremendous possibilities while AoC is created by a company that destroyed one of the better Sci-fi skill based hybrid mmo's with crappy expansions and lack of attention.

I try to stick up for AoC cause I had hope it would at least be as good as vanguard.

For the eve fan that posted about eve in a AoC forum, you have disgraced Eve and yourself for even posting a topic of a much superior game in this failing games forums.

yeah... you're right...I cant wait for the new expansion (shamelessly plugging that CCP offers FREE expansions) but ur right....Im sorry I compared Eve to AoC.... really is no comparison

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Originally posted by Loben
I wonder if xfire double counts for people with multiple accounts (which is everyone that plays Eve).

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There was somewhere a chart of subscriber numbers and Eve isnt a small game. If I remember right it was in the Top 10. Its constantly getting more subs and it deserves it. Its a wonderful game.

AoC is declining and even if the numbers of the subs is going below Eve its still a lot.

Originally posted by Shol

There was somewhere a chart of subscriber numbers and Eve isnt a small game. If I remember right it was in the Top 10. Its constantly getting more subs and it deserves it. Its a wonderful game.

AoC is declining and even if the numbers of the subs is going below Eve its still a lot.

thats very true....

if Xfire stats are relatively the same, that would still put AoC somewhere in the 200-300k active sub mark.

(yes I know they said 415k, but you all know as well as I do, that that doesnt take into consideration those who cancelled but still had gametime left.)

still, 200-300k is nothing to sneeze about....

Originally posted by mscouts77

Originally posted by Shol

There was somewhere a chart of subscriber numbers and Eve isnt a small game. If I remember right it was in the Top 10. Its constantly getting more subs and it deserves it. Its a wonderful game.

AoC is declining and even if the numbers of the subs is going below Eve its still a lot.

 

thats very true....

 

if Xfire stats are relatively the same, that would still put AoC somewhere in the 200-300k active sub mark.

(yes I know they said 415k, but you all know as well as I do, that that doesnt take into consideration those who cancelled but still had gametime left.)

still, 200-300k is nothing to sneeze about....

so the loss of 900k to 1 mill players based on the 1.2 mill units sold ? in 3 months lol is still nothing to sneeze at also lol

again im not sure about that 1.2 mill units sold.

if its 800k units the still a loss of 500k to 600k ?

Originally posted by Jackdog

give it another 3 months and AoC will be looking up EQ's skirts.

I thought AOC's cybering GMs were doing that already for inspiration. 

Originally posted by Vato26

Originally posted by Jackdog

give it another 3 months and AoC will be looking up EQ's skirts.

 

I thought AOC's cybering GMs were doing that already for inspiration. 

lol

Originally posted by Mathos

Originally posted by mscouts77

Originally posted by Shol

There was somewhere a chart of subscriber numbers and Eve isnt a small game. If I remember right it was in the Top 10. Its constantly getting more subs and it deserves it. Its a wonderful game.

AoC is declining and even if the numbers of the subs is going below Eve its still a lot.

 

thats very true....

 

if Xfire stats are relatively the same, that would still put AoC somewhere in the 200-300k active sub mark.

(yes I know they said 415k, but you all know as well as I do, that that doesnt take into consideration those who cancelled but still had gametime left.)

still, 200-300k is nothing to sneeze about....

 

so the loss of 900k to 1 mill players based on the 1.2 mill units sold ? in 3 months lol is still nothing to sneeze at also lol

 

again im not sure about that 1.2 mill units sold.

if its 800k units the still a loss of 500k to 600k ?

you misunderstand me.... I despise what FunCoim has done. I WASTED my money on AoC.

but... (granted this is a big but) IF funcom can retain 200-300k players then they will have the bankrole to keep the hampster spinning in their cage....

200-300k players is still a healthy playerbase.

again... thats IF   FunCom can retain that many leading up to Q3 2008