As an expansion of the GL son's involvement, this from an attendee:

Both the associate producer and producer from the lucas arts team were at the galactic assembly, jneri and neif on the forums.  The appropriately tough question was asked, namely, with all the mmo's out there and more importantly the upcoming title from bioware that everyone suspects is a kotor mmo, how committed is lucas arts to making this game suceed.

The half question asked with that hard one was does George Lucas himself ever log in.

Naturally, they would not comment on anything LA may be doing with Bioware.  But they did say that their presence at the assembly is a testament to the desire that LA has for this game to suceed.  SWG is not going away next year, period.  They have even given more freedom to the design team, so we get things like Galactic Moon Festival, Hoth, etc etc.

Plus, the fact the GL's son plays means that there is top-level involvement in making sure this isn't a failure.  Jake Neri gets emails from GL's son on a regular basis about the game.  That tells me something.  It reassures me, to some extent, that the resources (namely capital) that our great design team needs will not be diverted from swg to fuel any rumored kotor mmo.

Does that mean i plan on giving them complete leeway?  of course not.  They need to be accountable for the promises they've made and the statements they've made.  I know this community does a good job of reminding the devs of their shortcomings.  What I do not see is enough people realizing exactly how much they have done.  Remember folks, the prior dev team LAUGHED at us during the april 2006 summits when we suggested vehicle combat.  Now, thanks to BM and heroics, we now have the tech to be able to do this.
 

vid def looks good but did i just see 1 speeder take down a line of at-at's???

and is this just going to be another group only instance that takes 3hrs to get into then bugs and we fail like every other instance i went in?

Originally posted by Karahandras

vid def looks good but did i just see 1 speeder take down a line of at-at's???

and is this just going to be another group only instance that takes 3hrs to get into then bugs and we fail like every other instance i went in?

Hehe take it all with a grain of salt at this point I never ever say anything until its actually up and I play with it, but that clip looked like a re-enactment of the speeders taking the AT'-AT's down in the movie so yeah you did :)

My only hope is that this is just not an instance that you fight from beginning to end  and that people can jump into it without being in a group just faction and the load of the hoth instance determines your ability to enter

Hopefuly its more of the playground that it appears to be instead of just the dungeon.   Its already been stated that the hoth area has a dungeon as part of it.   So to me this means I can go in there and fart around just with a friend which would be awesome.  If this is the case then the statement they made about it being more of an expansion awhile back is in fact true.    We shall see, but from what I am seeing and the reason I started playing this game again was that is suddenly one day when i logged in showed progress and promise and I wasn't forced into FPS again.   

I"m sure this next sentace will get flamed from ehre to kingdom come, but to me it looks like sony has learned from its passed mistakes and that they are being given the leway to fix what needs to be fixed and license to add the stuff that was on the drawing board awhile back now.    I just wish they would fix the ugly HUD ...

If this is so I wont be going anywhere for awhile yet and still be playing this game.  The addition of halloween content and revival of the life day stuff shows that something has happened and for the better.

Originally posted by Gutboy

Someone took a video from the fan fair presentation, here it is:

http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o109/MooseMan_2007/?action=view&current=328.flv

Remember this is not final version, and the quality is not great on the video but it does answer some questions for me.

 This edit caontains a link to the video from just one of the rewards from the trading card game as well, can you say Pod Racing!

http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o109/MooseMan_2007/?action=view&current=307.flv

Sorry vets, this game rocks.

 

While you're waiting, you could play the battle for echo base on SW Battlefront -- it's quite a bit of fun! ( ' :

That video reminds me of another video very similar to it that I can't seem to find now. It showed a player going to the bridge of a correlian corvette and taking control of it and telling everyone they were going to be able to fly capitol ships. Yeah that was awesome when they put that in...

Originally posted by Gutboy

Also from a guildy that is at fan fair, Blixtev said that the Kotor Bioware/LEC/EA game is NOT a MMO, the closest thing to it would be what Diablo 2 is now (as far as online access). So you can do the story line solo or team up with some players to do it online as well.

It's another reason why SWG is not going away, two different products.

    I agree SWG is not going anywhere. Just a week ago I decided to use my free play time SOE granted vets, and I must say I'm pleasantly surprised how this new development team is recovering the game. Once I done a lot of crash courses in learning all the new changes and content, and being able to set the UI back to how I liked it I was good to go. Next thing I know I was logging off five hours later. I've found myself logging in ever evening since I returned and enjoying myself. I know some will never let it go with the whole NGE thing, but for this once unhappy SWG player I've been pleasantly surprised by this new dev team on how they've  improved SWG, and I now play SWG again because I''m enjoying it. Farstar EU server is alive and well with community too. 

 All SOE & LA need to do now is declare SWG a theme park stage for all of the Star Wars time line for fans to have fun in, hopefully this will shut those hardcore Star wars fans up that there shouldn't be loads of  Jedi in  the current time line.

Wasn't Jett Lucas the kid in Ep2 that got ganked by the troopers on order 66?

I'd compare LA/SOE relying on Jett's judgement of the game to George Bush relying on Ronald Rumsfeld for the security of USA and their army, ah wait... Rumsfeld left. :) Anyways Rumsfeld was an idiot and didn't know wtf he was doing or saying- get my drift?

Apparently LA/SOE thinks Jett Lucas > 250K subs, but that's wrong. :P

Originally posted by Gutboy

George Lucas son > 250,000 disgruntled vets

 

If GL's son is paying SOE $3,747,500 a month + $14.99 you'll get no argument from me.

So you are telling me that because the SOE developers told you that Bioware isn't making a Star Wars MMO it is a credible source?  Yet the CEO of EA tells you they are, and it isn't a credible source?

Funny stuff.

Of course the SOE developers are going to tell you that SWG isn't going away, IF IT GOES AWAY THEY DON'T HAVE A JOB.  Same old, same old.  Smedley promises an expansion in 2006, the developers promise collision detection in 2006, capital ships were promised after the NGE, and oh...  We were told by SOE that the CU was here to stay!

Yep, SOE is sure a credible source!  *rollseyes*

Don't be too proud of this technological terror SOE has constructed. The ability to amaze a handfull of fanbois is insignificant next to the power of the Veterans.

Originally posted by JestorRodo

Don't be too proud of this technological terror SOE has constructed. The ability to amaze a handfull of fanbois is insignificant next to the power of the Veterans.

 

 

You mean the veterans who have been oh-so-successful in shutting down SWG? Oh, wait ...

Earth to JestorFrodo ... you have no power.

Originally posted by Gutboy

George Lucas son > 250,000 disgruntled vets

Wallet Power Rule:

Jeff Lucas (Free Account = $0/mo) < 250,000 former customers ($3.75 million/mo)

Originally posted by kobie173

You mean the veterans who have been oh-so-successful in shutting down SWG? Oh, wait ...

Earth to JestorFrodo ... you have no power.

The body is dying, the brain just doesn't believe it yet.

Originally posted by Gutboy
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Remember this is not final version, and the quality is not great on the video but it does answer some questions for me.

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Sorry vets, this game rocks.

The Hoth Battle does have potential, however the end result or implementation tends to not be as exciting as when first presented, due to cut in features, simplified game rules and bugs.  The Battle is a good theme park ride, but it does not offer anything else besides that.  As mentioned before, Star Wars Battle Front is good enough (maybe even better, a personal preference), has multi-player capability (I would believe just as much or more than the Instance), PvP, and does not cost $15/mo. 

Now IF the Hoth Battle had some kind of influence with the rest of the game world, then that becomes a completely different issue and has tremendous value.  And that should not stop with Hoth either...

Such an implementation could actually make SWG into a great game and bring back veterans.  Really, no joke.  Imagine, if there were other planets that had such wars with vehicles as with the Hoth Battle.  That each battlefield determined the control of the planet or region.  Kind of similar to Planetside you could say.  Effectively the long time promised Galactic Civil War.

If such a feature were to be added, then I would believe that the subscriber count in SWG would go up.

However, given past history and management practices, I think such a Golden Egg will be missed.

The reason Hoth is not a planet and is a instance is because LEC does not want to advance the timeline of the game.

Originally posted by Gutboy

The reason Hoth is not a planet and is a instance is because LEC does not want to advance the timeline of the game.

 

That makes NO sense...  It's in the game therefore the game timeline has been advanced.

The reason that Hoth is an instance and not a planet is because the SWG developers don't have the technical prowess to add anything meaningful to the game.  Instancing is about as lame as it gets.

Originally posted by JestorRodo

Don't be too proud of this technological terror SOE has constructed. The ability to amaze a handfull of fanbois is insignificant next to the power of the Veterans.

 

 

LMAO.  Too funny.

that looks bad ass, i cant wait to play this, vet here btw,

Originally posted by Gutboy

The reason Hoth is not a planet and is a instance is because LEC does not want to advance the timeline of the game.

 

it is also instanced like that as there is nothing on hoth but a battle and a snow beast according to the story, and imho it would be better instanced as a batlle than a an open snowy tundra with snow yettis all over the place.

Originally posted by JestorRodo

Don't be too proud of this technological terror SOE has constructed. The ability to amaze a handfull of fanbois is insignificant next to the power of the Veterans.

 

 

Especially since the entire video is just a cutscene.