Originally posted by mike470

The fact is Mythic is using techniques very similar to AOC.  Only a few days of Open beta (and you need to pre-order to get in), only a few days of open beta..etc.

And as I read the forums, I recognize all of the comments from fanbois are very similar to what AOC fanbois said a couple months back. 

IS it possible for a good release?  Yes.  But in my eyes, it's just not worth the risk.

one -BIG- difference

AOC never lifted the NDA

Mythic has not either yet but once they do lift the NDA, that will set them apart

Myrdek there hasn't been true OB's since Lineage those days are gone.

 When you have a game as popular as WaR you don't have a problem filling it with tester's.WaR is going gold whether you guys like it or not,"gold" meens its finished as in don't need beta testers.

Comparing Mythic to Funcom is just a joke,noone makes truly informed statements here they just regurgetate somthing they read or heard in passing.

 Go get your money back save for college become a programmer found a development studio and make a better game.

 Otherwise STFU

Originally posted by tp1hobss

I for one will be making a list and checking it twice.  Every thread that is created, every poster that cries outrage....will be checked on at live launch.  For a good two weeks, I'll be searching through threads and pulling ever name on the list that I've taken....if you cried and wailed and acted like the most spoiled child because of news, OB dates, HS dates....and have come back (at launch) to sing WAR praises....be VERY certain I will make you eat your words and link your previous cry baby fit for all to see.

Good luck with this chief. Go get em! Can't believe someone cares as much as you mate.

Originally posted by tp1hobss

I for one will be making a list and checking it twice.  Every thread that is created, every poster that cries outrage....will be checked on at live launch.  For a good two weeks, I'll be searching through threads and pulling ever name on the list that I've taken....if you cried and wailed and acted like the most spoiled child because of news, OB dates, HS dates....and have come back (at launch) to sing WAR praises....be VERY certain I will make you eat your words and link your previous cry baby fit for all to see.

That's kinda creepy. Get a life.

I think if companies are going to start doing it this way shouldn't call it open beta anymore. They should call it a pre-release preview. Because really that's all they ever are these days and doing it the way they do now gives people a totally different perception. All open beta has ever been in my experience is to try the game out for a week or two before you buy it. Not a bad deal if you ask me.

Originally posted by tuzalov

Myrdek there hasn't been true OB's since Lineage those days are gone.

 Go get your money back save for college become a programmer found a development studio and make a better game.

Funny thing is, I did study programming in college for a year and a half. Had a 94% average and I constantly skipped class, played games and never studied :)

Originally posted by Vicatin

Originally posted by tp1hobss

I for one will be making a list and checking it twice.  Every thread that is created, every poster that cries outrage....will be checked on at live launch.  For a good two weeks, I'll be searching through threads and pulling ever name on the list that I've taken....if you cried and wailed and acted like the most spoiled child because of news, OB dates, HS dates....and have come back (at launch) to sing WAR praises....be VERY certain I will make you eat your words and link your previous cry baby fit for all to see.

 

Good luck with this chief. Go get em! Can't believe someone cares as much as you mate.

HA!  Have you ever saw, heard or witnessed such a fit...that it was the ultimate pleasure (as the fit subsided and was replaced with a smiley, happy faced, ice-cream eating....disposition) to just point out what a complete fool they made themselves out to be?  Is it me or are there others that find it pleasurable just to remind?  That's all it is...but there is a hint of shadowy, malicious intent behind the many reminders I'm sure I'll be posting.

Originally posted by qotsa

I think if companies are going to start doing it this way shouldn't call it open beta anymore. They should call it a pre-release preview. Because really that's all they ever are these days and doing it the way they do now gives people a totally different perception. All open beta has ever been in my experience is to try the game out for a week or two before you buy it. Not a bad deal if you ask me.

Well "pre-release preview" doesn't get the kiddies drooling, nor does it sound very convincing when someone trots out the old "I've played since pre-release preview " badge of honor as a substitute for credibility in a forum argument. ;)

Only few days and then I can stop pretending that I got a live :)

Originally posted by Myrdek

Originally posted by sinjin

Originally posted by Myrdek

What the hell is that crap? 1 week??? Their probably doing this to not give time for people to cancel their preorder, this is complete crap.

I'm cancelling mine, no way I'm getting screwed like some were with Funcom

 

I can assure you that Mythic's release will be very different from Failcom's.  I would not cancel anything if I were you, the game is simply amazing.

 

That's what I thought too, I read betaleak, I have tons of videos and am very hyped. But doing this insures that you can't cancel your preorder in time and is a very shady business practice. I thought they were better than this.

Better safe than sorry

Actually the only shady practice is trying to get something for nothing. In fact is it is the people that do this bait and switch order cancel crap that makes companies setup situations to weed out the scammers. This is a business like any other it costs money and if you have ever worked in the IT industry commercial server time is not free and bandwidth is not free. If you have worries about the game don't pre-order and buy live retail or wait 6 months for a buddy program. This plan is fairly standard similar to what LOTRO did and is fair. If you don’t like it cancel now please you have plenty of time to do so.

Relax people.  Why are you freaking out?  You have a week to test the game.  They are going to lift the NDA soon, and you will hear from thousands of people how good the game is.  Then you will have a week to try it.  You will have plenty of time to cancel pre orders.  They are operating on a whole different level than Funcom, and this will be nothing like AoC.  Just relax.  It's just open beta.  The characters don't carry over.

Well, I was waiting all weekend to get to Monday so I can begin downloading it, it's exciting. I guess my biggest dissapointment at the moment is merely that I must wait even longer to try this out. My lady and I havn't played a game together in months, she's going to college in a different location than me so I'm eagerly awaiting something we can do together. She loves the original Warhammer table top game. I really wish they didn't make the OB so far from when they release the client.. it was a let down. I still want to play though. I suppose eight days is plenty of time to check it out.

Theres still the Preview Weekend prior to OB and techniquely Mythic hasnt posted anything yet.Its always possible that they are monitoring forum responses to gauge player reaction to a possible OB date of Aug 7th.

I am waiting for the Mythic post,before I jump to conclusions.

Originally posted by tr289

any one have some popcorn ? this thread should be very amusing !

Indeedy.

People like to pretend they've solved a magic formula of the universe by drawing a conclusion based on another, unrelated, recently-failed launch.

Had these people kept as in-touch with Mythic as they like to think they do, listening to and reading all the interviews, they would know that the possibility of a 1-Week Beta is not new and not unexpected. Mark Jacobs himself specifically didn't count the possibility out. I didn't expect Open Beta until at least September 1st.

If these people were so on-the-fence that this news makes them cancel their pre-order, then they shouldn't have pre-ordered to begin with.

No loss. No news here.

Originally posted by banthis

Originally posted by Azrile

 

This is beginning to smell more and more like AoC.   That gives players just over a week to test the game.  Which means they will only be able to experience the very first part of the game (ie tortage).   It also means the NDA probably isn't getting lifted any time soon??

 

... I guess your .. history with MMOs is limited.  Very few if any AAA games at all give you more than 1 week of open beta.   All games give you Beta a week or so before launch.   The fact you have a problem with this shows your lack of knowledge of MMOs before AoC or atleast before WoW.  Kinda Sad but whatever we won't miss babies.

On the contrary, many MMO with open betas are way more than a week long.  This isn't a good move by Mythic. I'm curious as to why they would do that.

Trust those of us who cannot speak, I know AoC left a horrid taste in everyones mouth, but this is nothing like AoC.

When NDA lifts you can get more details but...

I did some of the early Beta stuff for AoC and from my first impression is had problems, problems that WAR is not  suffering from. Sure WAR does haev some issues but it is far far more polished and ready for release then AoC would be even if it were to release today(that is if AoC were to release to today, with all the patches and "fixes").

I am by no means a WAR fanboy, I never played the tabletop and I have but limited passing experience in the RTS games. I am just someone who enjoys MMOs and have since back in the late 90s when Everquest showed up(and I am sad I never experienced UO).

WAR is Awesome!

WAR is better than most of the MMOs...

AND ITS IN CLOSED BETA!!!!!

so if you cancelled your preorder YOU ARE RETARTED and you should preorder again.

Originally posted by Magsato

Trust those of us who cannot speak, I know AoC left a horrid taste in everyones mouth, but this is nothing like AoC.

When NDA lifts you can get more details but...

I did some of the early Beta stuff for AoC and from my first impression is had problems, problems that WAR is not  suffering from. Sure WAR does haev some issues but it is far far more polished and ready for release then AoC would be even if it were to release today(that is if AoC were to release to today, with all the patches and "fixes").

I am by no means a WAR fanboy, I never played the tabletop and I have but limited passing experience in the RTS games. I am just someone who enjoys MMOs and have since back in the late 90s when Everquest showed up(and I am sad I never experienced UO).

WAR is Awesome!

Everquest was better anyways, don't be.

unless they lift the NDA this week and have the EU site ready to input our codes during this week im OUT and waiting for Aion.

Originally posted by daemon

unless they lift the NDA this week and have the EU site ready to input our codes during this week im OUT and waiting for Aion.

I could be wrong

but the EU site may not available for codes until Aug 28th

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