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Ganarethian Hideaway (General)  » Dark and Light game developer NPCube dismissed and convicted by French Court

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  _Pix_

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Joined: 11/21/05
Posts: 276

7/24/08 3:58:28 AM#126
Originally posted by daelnor

and for the record...I believe they already fled the country, as, you know, all innocent people commonly do.

I personally always liquidate what assets I have and flee to china every time I'm winning a court case because I am honest and in the right...


 

Man, and do  you fly to Mars whenever you lose a court case?! Cause that would be a little bit difficult to catch you there... 

BTW I've been informed that NPCube has been convicted in yet another case and that the Clerk's Office has just informed the winning party that their Office was not in a position to notify NPCube since its manager Cesar Jacquet was nowhere to be found on Reunion Island/France.     

  jimmyman99

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Posts: 3222

"Damn you, poetical justice" - Homer Simpson

7/24/08 9:37:02 AM#127
Originally posted by ChromeBallz

A double necro, i simply needed to reply here aswell.

 

To this Dwerk- guy:

Yes, i hope that Farlan loses. I am saying that from a player's perspective, and from a consumer's perspective.

- In good faith i bought a product from Farlan/NPC, which they never delivered.

- In order to not get billed, i needed to *not* activate my account according to Farlan. However, they contradicted themselves by billing me 6 months later, and telling me that i had to activate the account to *not* get billed.

 

These are the reasons why people want Farlan to lose. We are consumers, and we got scammed. By proxy, Pix is getting our money back.

 

My thoughts exactly. Good post

I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.

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  Talinguard

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Player accomplishment is relative to the chance of meaningful consequences in the event you fail.

7/25/08 8:56:12 AM#128
Originally posted by pfloydguy84
the game is a joke anyways.even if they won the lawsuit, the game would still suck.even if they made the game twice as stable and removed half the bugs, it would still be barely playable and suck horribly.the game is garbage and is the laughing stock of the mmo community.Id go as far as calling DnL the worst mmo ever created.

 

DnL i s a close second to Mourning as the worst game ever.

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  Cholayna

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Posts: 1618

 
7/26/08 11:03:50 PM#129


 

a close second???

 

Umm...pardon,.... but I really dont think DNL was ever anywhere close to a"game"..........

Sidenote:

Zorv!! where ya at sweetie?? wanna play whichja!! hehehe

  Talinguard

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Posts: 612

Player accomplishment is relative to the chance of meaningful consequences in the event you fail.

7/27/08 2:04:53 AM#130
Originally posted by Cholayna


 

a close second???

 

Umm...pardon,.... but I really dont think DNL was ever anywhere close to a"game"..........

Sidenote:

Zorv!! where ya at sweetie?? wanna play whichja!! hehehe


 

Lets put it this way, if DnL was 3-Mile Island, then Mourning was Chyrnobl. 

You obviously never played Mourning after it released to the pubic.  DnL was a game, if even for a short time.  They released Mourning before there were any skills for the players to use.  The fact that there i still something to "play" makes it a thousand times more successful than Mourning. 

To put it another way.... if DnL was Britany Spears, then Mourning was Michael Vick.....

 

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  User Deleted
7/27/08 2:12:17 AM#131

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  _Pix_

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Joined: 11/21/05
Posts: 276

7/28/08 2:54:18 AM#132

Ah! I was almost right in saying that "I guess we'll see a number of posters putting forward "it's all Pix's fault " if they fired every single soul at NPCube.": We have now kinda official answer on the subject:

http://www.darkandlight.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72092

"Alas the development team was strongly reduced while waiting for the end of the lawsuit. We hope to be able to reopen the completely functional servers soon. Please excuse us for the inconvenience."

So, if they fired the whole team (which is translated by "strongly reduced the team" in the NFAAW - NPCube/Farlan and al world) this is because they were waiting for the end of THE lawsuit. I wonder if this is for the same reason that they seemed to switch off their server and that the Chinese press reported that SnailGame "Beijing office" went bankrupt. Are they  all waiting for the end of THE lawsuit? Gosh, patience is a great virtue, but it remains quite a pathetic excuse when you know they did their best at delaying and delaying and delaying the case(s).

  mike470

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Posts: 2429

"We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand" - Randy Pausch

7/28/08 10:48:56 AM#133
Originally posted by Neverknow
Originally posted by Cholayna


 

a close second???

 

Umm...pardon,.... but I really dont think DNL was ever anywhere close to a"game"..........

Sidenote:

Zorv!! where ya at sweetie?? wanna play whichja!! hehehe


 

He is on a temporary vacation due to some Darkfall fanbois. Let's just say I'm taking all his calls.


 

Hehe, I was wondering where you had been Zorvan...seems like those DF fans nailed you again. 

I expected you to have an alt somewhere (you must be prepared after all of your other bans).  Nice to know you're still roaming these forums.

I should have recognized your sense of humor sooner...

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  User Deleted
7/28/08 1:31:19 PM#134
Originally posted by mike470
Originally posted by Neverknow
Originally posted by Cholayna


 

a close second???

 

Umm...pardon,.... but I really dont think DNL was ever anywhere close to a"game"..........

Sidenote:

Zorv!! where ya at sweetie?? wanna play whichja!! hehehe


 

He is on a temporary vacation due to some Darkfall fanbois. Let's just say I'm taking all his calls.


 

Hehe, I was wondering where you had been Zorvan...seems like those DF fans nailed you again. 

I expected you to have an alt somewhere (you must be prepared after all of your other bans).  Nice to know you're still roaming these forums.

I should have recognized your sense of humor sooner...


 

Alt? No no, just my secretary. I just dictate what to post.

 

CHO, I'M HERE!!!!

  Cholayna

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Joined: 11/05/05
Posts: 1618

 
8/11/08 9:15:39 PM#135

Gawd! The waiting for the next court fiasco seems endless this time.....dangit! I wanna laugh!!! Show us some hijinks Farlan!

  mike470

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Joined: 2/11/08
Posts: 2429

"We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand" - Randy Pausch

8/11/08 10:54:22 PM#136
Originally posted by Cholayna

Gawd! The waiting for the next court fiasco seems endless this time.....dangit! I wanna laugh!!! Show us some hijinks Farlan!

 


 

The wait will all be worth it once the news comes

 

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  Alienovrlord

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8/12/08 2:11:52 AM#137

Just want to point out to Dwerk that it is actually very important for the MMORPG community that Farlan loses the court battle.  (And learn to punctuate Dwerk.   The paragraph is a wonderful invention). 

Legal punishment has a major purpose - to deter others.     When the next shady developer thinks they can get away creating some shoddy piece of junk, hype and lie about how great it is all while using someone else's technology then the Farlan case will be an important lesson.    

It's not just a lesson to future developesr, however, it's also a lesson to all those gullible fanbois who swallowed all the clueless hype.   Next time listen  and if a developer sounds like a used car salesman, remember Farlan.

  chillx

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Joined: 12/14/05
Posts: 18

8/12/08 2:33:23 PM#138
Originally posted by Talinguard
Originally posted by Cholayna


 

a close second???

 

Umm...pardon,.... but I really dont think DNL was ever anywhere close to a"game"..........

Sidenote:

Zorv!! where ya at sweetie?? wanna play whichja!! hehehe


 

Lets put it this way, if DnL was 3-Mile Island, then Mourning was Chyrnobl. 

You obviously never played Mourning after it released to the pubic.  DnL was a game, if even for a short time.  They released Mourning before there were any skills for the players to use.  The fact that there i still something to "play" makes it a thousand times more successful than Mourning. 

To put it another way.... if DnL was Britany Spears, then Mourning was Michael Vick.....

 

 

I cant believe what this game has finally done to us. It has got us comparing one pile of crap with another pile of crap.

 

Damn we are in BIG BIG trouble

  Cholayna

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Joined: 11/05/05
Posts: 1618

 
8/22/08 3:12:02 PM#139

is the game still on? Do the china people have access?

  User Deleted
8/22/08 3:28:28 PM#140
Originally posted by Cholayna

is the game still on? Do the china people have access?


 

The Chinese are busy watching their 12 year olds, er..I mean 16 year olds ( yeah right) falsely win Olympic gold.

  naldric

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8/31/08 9:37:13 AM#141

mmmm does this mean i wont get my cloth map?

 

  Cholayna

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Joined: 11/05/05
Posts: 1618

 
9/02/08 7:38:51 AM#142

Originally posted by naldric

mmmm does this mean i wont get my cloth map?

 


 

oh sure you will!!! As soon as this messy, pesty court case is over with a Farlan win and DNL2 is running smooth as a baby's bottom and Farlan has a fail-safe payment program and devs and management surpassing anything WOW could ever come up with, sure! sure! You will recieve the cloth map that was promised!!

  AtmaDarkwolf

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Joined: 6/08/04
Posts: 176

9/04/08 4:58:56 PM#143

I was DnL back in closed beta, when pix was still on the team, and i can say that just from what 'I' saw ingame, meaning the updates, changes, bug fixes, etc that happened while he was working with them, the game was moving at a decent rate.

 

Then we found out that pix was fired, or left(not exactly sure what happened after this point) and the updates just pretty much stopped. Sure there was a little of this and that added/changed, but the bugs got worse and worse after each new 'addition' (And for the most part, pretty much nothing changed after this point, even after 'release')

 

I got banned a few times from the forums for stating this simple fact... that something had to change, that they had to do 'something' other than sell a broken/unfinished product. People still paid, and people were ripped off.

 

Sorry, but the basic truth is, Pix laid down a great foundation for a game to be built upon, then once they thought he had done what they needed, they basicly tried to remove him from the picture.

 

Sorry to anyone out there who plays DnL, but you are only supporting those who are doing wrong. I would love to see a game developed with pix's tech, and his help, but not without his permission, all DnL has going for it thats 'unique' is what pix has done, the rest of the 'crap' in the game u can find in most other games, and it's all done MUCH better there.

 

Pix, please work with someone in the future and give us a game that we all want. And good luck and grats. You deserve compensation for the work u have done.

  Gnomad

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Joined: 4/17/06
Posts: 382

9/07/08 1:41:52 AM#144

I am a bit surprised to see this still going on after all this time.

I was a bit bored tonight and figured it was time to browse all the old stomping grounds and see what was going on.

Nice to see the old names still around and still fighting the good fight.

Keep it up _Pix_ and I still back you all the way man.

Take care all and if anyone ever gets their cloth map drop me a PM so I can watch for mine to show up in the mail (fat chance of that ever happening)

  _Pix_

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Joined: 11/21/05
Posts: 276

9/10/08 5:01:32 AM#145

Update of the day:

 "On September 5, 2008, took place the closing hearing for the defendants to file their last submissions before the judge in charge of receiving final submissions and pieces of evidence to prepare the case for trial. The defense of NPCube, Farlan and Mr Cesar Jacquet was to file its submissions in reply to the substance of the case. None was filed by the defense which yet asked the judge for another hearing to be scheduled and the date of final speeches to be postponed.

On September 8th the Judge ruled that the defendants' request was not admissible and confirms the date of October 2nd for final speeches to take place. "

 

BTW no source link for today, sorry, as www.pourieux.com 's server has been out of order as from the 29th of August, 2008.     

  Cholayna

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Joined: 11/05/05
Posts: 1618

 
9/11/08 6:36:56 PM#146
Originally posted by _Pix_

Update of the day:

 "On September 5, 2008, took place the closing hearing for the defendants to file their last submissions before the judge in charge of receiving final submissions and pieces of evidence to prepare the case for trial. The defense of NPCube, Farlan and Mr Cesar Jacquet was to file its submissions in reply to the substance of the case. None was filed by the defense which yet asked the judge for another hearing to be scheduled and the date of final speeches to be postponed.

On September 8th the Judge ruled that the defendants' request was not admissible and confirms the date of October 2nd for final speeches to take place. "

 

BTW no source link for today, sorry, as www.pourieux.com 's server has been out of order as from the 29th of August, 2008.     


 

BWAHAHAHAAAAAA!!

Just like the game itself!!! DELAY DELAY DELAY , LIE LIE LIE , then the final FAIL FAIL FAIL!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!~!!!

Luv _Pix_!! :)   Was hankerin for a good laugh from the Farlan gang!!

BWHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!

  Dracis

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"Ideas are bulletproof"

9/12/08 5:10:04 PM#147

I guess my only concern now is, _Pix_ getting his money. After all this crap he's gone through, the least he deserves is some of it, and hopefully all of it. Unfortunately with our ole buddy, Cesar Jacquet, fleeing to China I have my doubts that _Pix_ will get a chance to collect. Hopefully French law covers this though, but as long this case has taken, getting the money may take even longer.

Anyway, my hopes are still high for you _Pix_ and just can't wait until the October verdict.

  Cholayna

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Posts: 1618

 
9/30/08 3:48:49 PM#148

hehehe I am already giggling in anticipation of the antics of Farlan in the upcoming and eagerly awaited court date hehehe...something to look forward to ....hehehe

  Zorbane

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10/01/08 3:17:12 AM#149
Originally posted by Cholayna

hehehe I am already giggling in anticipation of the antics of Farlan in the upcoming and eagerly awaited court date hehehe...something to look forward to ....hehehe

 

Two more days eh?  Looking forward to it

  indiramourn

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MMOs require more reasoning and imagination than most stereotypically ''adult'' activities.

10/01/08 2:45:32 PM#150

I expect another delay tactic.  If that's still possible.

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