Originally posted by Gazenthia

and should warrant a lot more than a reprimand

 Any details regarding the level of punishment?

Originally posted by Gazenthia

As for it not bothering you at all, I don't know what to say other than that might have a lot to do with the fact that you are a male and slightly detached from the situation. 

Could you help describe a specific scenario or situation I might be detached from? If it could remain specific to ranting, females and shoes? 

Originally posted by Gazenthia

You wouldn't feel the same if such a snide jab were aimed at your wife or daughter.

It's entirely up to her. The two young ones lack maturity and dicipline.  

Surely you jest about a female demographic in regards to AoC.

Excluding age and household income. Could you touch on this?

Originally posted by Gazenthia

Iin case you missed it, "this happened here"- just now in this thread.
 

 The comment in question wasn't posted on the AOC forums?

Just keep in mind.

A strategy for an avatar that continues to blunder with it's base.

The comment didn't bother me.

In their house or domain.

All free of a mandated course of action, reaction or  response.

Comparisons, analogies and embellishment excluded.

Take care.

Funcom will never admit they are wrong about anything or fire anyone who treats customers like crap, would go against their business model.

Guys..I gotta give the whole Lufkin thing a big "So what".

The game is not doing well, the company is disgraced, the competition is releasing two hug game / xpac soon..

One small person on an official forum for a "never-was" game doesn't matter a hill of beans anymore.

FC will never sanction him, they won't communicate with the player base, they plain don't care.

Luffy can post about killing kittens with angry puppies and it won't matter a whit. FC tried, they (seemingly) failed. It'll be over soon.

Originally posted by Die_Scream

Guys..I gotta give the whole Lufkin thing a big "So what".

The game is not doing well, the company is disgraced, the competition is releasing two hug game / xpac soon..

One small person on an official forum for a "never-was" game doesn't matter a hill of beans anymore.

FC will never sanction him, they won't communicate with the player base, they plain don't care.

Luffy can post about killing kittens with angry puppies and it won't matter a whit. FC tried, they (seemingly) failed. It'll be over soon.

Sounds about right to me. Still i think it gives some of us something to do while we wait for such games.

I actually wanted to run up DAOC again, but stopped when i realised i had to install so many cds and updates...

Originally posted by Die_Scream

Guys..I gotta give the whole Lufkin thing a big "So what".

The game is not doing well, the company is disgraced, the competition is releasing two hug game / xpac soon..

One small person on an official forum for a "never-was" game doesn't matter a hill of beans anymore.

FC will never sanction him, they won't communicate with the player base, they plain don't care.

Luffy can post about killing kittens with angry puppies and it won't matter a whit. FC tried, they (seemingly) failed. It'll be over soon.

Despite Lufkin's sexist outburst being utterly appalling, I would have to agree that ultimately it is irrelevant. It's pretty bad though when a company allows a moderator to get progressively out of control on some sort of super-villain power trip.

Lufkin almost certainly reads threads like this himself & judging from this latest outburst I think he actually likes the negative publicity. He obviously thinks that Funcom have given him free reign to behave however he likes or are too busy worrying about more serious issues to bother monitoring him.

I wouldn't even be surprised if Funcom had told him that despite all the criticism he still had their full support because he was providing a good distraction from other issues.

Regardless of why he still even has a job though, it seems likely that "You ain't seen nothing yet".

omg, is this true? makes me consider quittting the game just for that!

Rant = To suddenly give a long speech that usually results in rambling and repeating of nonsence.

That sure sounds alot like what women do to me....

I get that some people can't  see fun in comments like that, but fire him over a comment like that is silly.

The more sane thing to do is to give him a warning.,,

And he needs to appoligy to women, wtf?

Originally posted by Raggsokk81

Rant = To suddenly give a long speech that usually results in rambling and repeating of nonsence.

That sure sounds alot like what women do to me....

 

I get that some people can't  see fun in comments like that, but fire him over a comment like that is silly.

The more sane thing to do is to give him a warning.,,

 

And he needs to appoligy to women, wtf?

It was a sexist remark and he should apologize. There are far too many generaliztions about woman in this society and they do nothing but hold the gender down. Comments that some may consider irrelevant such as "Dont be such a girl" or "THIS or THAT is for woman" imply that woman can only live up to a certain standard, and whie many of those comments arent meant to be taken so seriously, they do add up.

So many people use the word "gay" to describe things they may think are dumb or pointless or use the word "fag" to insult a person. When in reality these people may not mean any harm to that demographic of people, the use of those words in negative sentences over and over and over eventually instill the idea in peoples minds that gay is in fact a negative thing to be.

The same goes for woman.

Originally posted by Raggsokk81

Rant = To suddenly give a long speech that usually results in rambling and repeating of nonsence.

That sure sounds alot like what women do to me....

 

I get that some people can't  see fun in comments like that, but fire him over a comment like that is silly.

The more sane thing to do is to give him a warning.,,

 

And he needs to appoligy to women, wtf?

He represents a company. Regardless if you find it funny or not, someone representing a company should not be doing so the way this Mod does. An apology to women? Your damn right. Had it been a racial comment, or a comment about gays your can bet they would force him to apologise. I'm sure your going to get ripped for agreeing with his comment. A warning? Maybe if it was his first idiot comment but he has acted like a jackass many, many times and yes, this does warrent termination. Like it or not we are moving to a politicaly correct society and comments like his, and yours agreeing with him are just not acceptable anymore.

Originally posted by Teganx

Originally posted by Raggsokk81

Rant = To suddenly give a long speech that usually results in rambling and repeating of nonsence.

That sure sounds alot like what women do to me....

I get that some people can't  see fun in comments like that, but fire him over a comment like that is silly.

The more sane thing to do is to give him a warning.,,

And he needs to appoligy to women, wtf?

It was a sexist remark and he should apologize. There are far too many generaliztions about woman in this society and they do nothing but hold the gender down. Comments that some may consider irrelevant such as "Dont be such a girl" or "THIS or THAT is for woman" imply that woman can only live up to a certain standard, and whie many of those comments arent meant to be taken so seriously, they do add up.

So many people use the word "gay" to describe things they may think are dumb or pointless or use the word "fag" to insult a person. When in reality these people may not mean any harm to that demographic of people, the use of those words in negative sentences over and over and over eventually instill the idea in peoples minds that gay is in fact a negative thing to be.

The same goes for woman.

I totally agree. Excellent point, very well put.

So, when was the last time Lufkin posted over at US forums?

I must say I am quite astounded by the ability of this community to whip itself into a righteous rage. Keep in mind that Funcom is a huge company, staffed by *gasp* people! People make mistakes, and it's not always easy to weed out all the bad. I am not saying anything about funcom, their buisness practises, or AoC itself. All I am saying is that a lot of the participants of this community might benefit from taking a step back, a deep breath and then, think about what you are actually getting so worked up about.

Never underestimate the crowds ability to amplify each other's emotions to such an extent that in the end all they can do is cry out for prosectution and crusades.

Simple problem with a simple solution. Lufkin apologizes, gets a warning mark, a few more strikes and he's gone. No need to fire anyone on their first major mistake. No need for over-zealous readers to want to see someone crucified. Formal apology and move on.

But the absolute WORST thing the company could do would be to just delete the thread and ignore it and hope it all goes away. That's going to do nothing but stoke the flames of discontent. That's the action in this thread that amazes me. Unbelievably dumb imo.

Well I havent seen any threads being closed by Lufkin lately , or any posts at all really...

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Originally posted by Lufkin
What'cha gonna do, uh? We've swept this place, you've got nothing. Nothing but your bloody avatar and your fancy internet retorts, we have bans.

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Originally posted by airhead

 No need to fire anyone on their first major mistake.

Actually that is exactly how it is with most jobs, especially where you are a representative of the company. Especially if you say what he did. People don't get second chances, or third, or so on like he already has. An apology followed by sacking is the norm. By the way, I and some of the other posters here have noted that this probably wasn't even a 'mistake'. Mistake would imply that he didn't mean to say that.

Originally posted by ModifyMenuW

 

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Originally posted by Lufkin
What'cha gonna do, uh? We've swept this place, you've got nothing. Nothing but your bloody avatar and your fancy internet retorts, we have bans.

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Hehe, where was that posted?

Im sensing lots of self-righteous hypocrisy here.  I can see that Lufkin was hated, but lets not pretend that a REALLY small comment like "rants are for women!" is some huge deal to all of you.

Its simply not possible for people to be that hypersensitive normally.  If you ARE *that* PC, then you've got some serious issues.

That comment was a typical macho jab that is very common in any circle that is mainly male.  I think any guy and all women realize that and arent deeply hurt when they read it (unless they need counseling)

The vast majority of women think that videogames are a pointless bit of stupidity as it is and fully expect guys to generally be juvenille, so lets not pretend this guy is some raging, dangerous, misogynist based on such a silly LITTLE comment.

The ENDLESS use of "gay" as a pejorative is FAR worse and I dont see anyone getting whipped into that kind of frenzy EVER.

Of course Im sure if this guy Lufkin did that, there would then be  a frenzy.

At least just admit that you hate LUFKIN and its not so much what was said but that HE said it.  Or are all of you going to pretend you've NEVER laughed at sophomoric humor in movies, on TV, from comedians, from friends, etc etc.  You really all sit there ENRAGED at Chris Rock, or Harold and Kumar or pretty much ANY OTHER pop culture comedy, eh?  Yah... OK.

The guy may very well be a jackoff, but its pretty obvious he was going for schtick in that post.  He clearly has embraced the "kick you in the nuts" type internet persona that  SO MANY seem to favor.

The ONLY thing Ill give you is that its probably not appropriate for an official rep to be, well, human, but I consider that unfortunate really.  EVERY corporate communication is sanitized and analyzed by lawyers and HR departments on the LOOKOUT for BS lawsuits (not out of any *real* sensitivity since there is no *real* harm 99% of the time).  I dont really think society is somehow BETTER for this totalitarian political correctness regime we now live under.

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Originally posted by mlambert890 <...>

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I had written a long reply, but he doesn't deserve one.

The purpose of the post is to further degrade people while attempting to downplay and spin the truth. Its really kind of ... sickening.

Originally posted by Dreamstrider

I must say I am quite astounded by the ability of this community to whip itself into a righteous rage. Keep in mind that Funcom is a huge company, staffed by *gasp* people! People make mistakes, and it's not always easy to weed out all the bad. I am not saying anything about funcom, their buisness practises, or AoC itself. All I am saying is that a lot of the participants of this community might benefit from taking a step back, a deep breath and then, think about what you are actually getting so worked up about.

Never underestimate the crowds ability to amplify each other's emotions to such an extent that in the end all they can do is cry out for prosectution and crusades.

Maybe youve been in a cave but Lufkins antics have been well documented here as well as Famine receiving MANY PMs about the situation. 

So exactly how long would it take you to cut out the cancer that is Lufkin ( and his kind) if it was your companies reputation that he was playing with?