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  pkSlayde

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Joined: 3/16/08
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Achiever 66.67%, Explorer 20.00%, Killer 100.00%, Socializer 13.33%

 
8/08/08 8:17:46 PM#221
Originally posted by Evasia
Originally posted by Theocritus

      PK is hardly necessary in any game.....Basically PKers are people who get their thrills by ruining other players gameplay....... Also PKers arent looking for a fair fight their looking for that easy victim who never did anything to them......They arent looking for a game they're looking for someone they can dominate..... Every game I ever played that had PKers in it was zero fun......


 

Huh?

Becouse your a carebear, you dont like pvp, so dont play open pvp games, other wise dont whine about it.

If a game have pk becouse its open pvp, there are also ANTI- players to help your ass.

 


 

then they usually give you half of the pk loot

Let Them HATE, so long as they FEAR

  pkSlayde

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8/08/08 8:31:21 PM#222
Originally posted by gillvane1
Originally posted by Ozmodan

I have to agree completely with Gameloading on this one even though some of the most fun times I had in UO was hunting the reds.   That is not how most players react to pking.

To reinforce what Gameloading said, just look at the pvp servers in Wow, most of them are the lowest population servers.

All I can say to you is to hope that Darkfall emerges from vaporware status, it seems to be the game you are looking for.

 

Darkfall would not be what he's looking for, because again, people annoyed by PK's on Darkfall, would go play something else like WoW or LOTRO.

He wants to kill people that don't want to be killed. You can't make games like that anymore since people can simply play something else.


 

i kill anyone who is not an ally

Let Them HATE, so long as they FEAR

  pkSlayde

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8/08/08 8:41:32 PM#223
Originally posted by metalhead980

 

I dont think PK is needed at all. games like Lotro are good and they dont have PKing.

personally PKers/Griefers are cowards. i have never seen a pker kill someone with better gear or take on a group of players that out number them. It's always a lower level or someone not build to defend him/her self.

I currently play Eve online and i personally go out and hunt those worthless gate campers and cowards that kill players that cant defend themselves. Pkers are cowards they are personally responsible for keeping the eve online population  down. suicide killing miners,haulers, gate camping and basically making the game unenjoyable for anyone new.  if you guys had some kind of code of honor eve would have 2 million players right now.

 

youtube most of eR's videos. here is just one
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pbvUMJUOSQ&feature=related

in this video there is a part where two people are on the offence against about 3 even lv players

Let Them HATE, so long as they FEAR

  Soldier420

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Joined: 12/03/06
Posts: 183

8/08/08 10:51:57 PM#224

PvP will always take more skill than PvE IMO. In a fair PvP fight your opponent is unpredictable, unlike the computer. To me World PvP never gets old... Unlike PvE which is basically the same thing over and over. When someone spews/cries that they hate being ganked or PvP... It's cause they're use to playing kiddy games or their games are on easy mode.

 

These people who cry about PvP remind me of THAT kid who would throw his game controller w/e he lost.

Pats let Manning win.

  Harpy_Lady

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Joined: 7/16/06
Posts: 137

8/08/08 11:18:23 PM#225

I don't think PVP is needed in every game at all.  In fact, a major problem right now is that new games are trying to be everything to everyone. Yet they are failing to truly satisfy any of them.

I would love to see all the PVP players playing a PVP-centric game they enjoyed. That way they would stay outta my PVE-centric game.

 

  Moaky07

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Joined: 2/24/07
Posts: 1877

MMO sandbox games are as exciting as watching paint dry.

8/09/08 3:50:43 AM#226
Originally posted by Soldier420

PvP will always take more skill than PvE IMO. In a fair PvP fight your opponent is unpredictable, unlike the computer. To me World PvP never gets old... Unlike PvE which is basically the same thing over and over. When someone spews/cries that they hate being ganked or PvP... It's cause they're use to playing kiddy games or their games are on easy mode.

 

These people who cry about PvP remind me of THAT kid who would throw his game controller w/e he lost.


 

These types of posts crack me up....

Yep...I dont have the reflexes of a 15 yr old anymore. Nor do I have the immaturity of one either.

If you would meet up with one of these "kids"(and that is putting it loosely...as some adults act the same way), and they would fight ya...then move on...hey NP.

But it doesnt work like that does it?

Corpse camping is considered "fun" to them.

I never played on a PvP server, and once I saw on brds what they were about, I was positive I never would either.

Granted I have seen posts by some PvP folks that I would deem "honorable" about it. There are just too many though that are the exact opposite. YOu typically can tell the ones...they are the first to throw all the "carebear" or whatever insults.

I may very well be a carebear....but it is a million times better than being a putz that spends their time griefing others, in an attempt to bolster their self-esteem.

The best part is these idiots cannot understand why most folks are not interested in sharing a server with em.

Truly priceless.

Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.

  User Deleted
8/09/08 6:12:59 AM#227
Originally posted by Moaky07
Originally posted by Soldier420

PvP will always take more skill than PvE IMO. In a fair PvP fight your opponent is unpredictable, unlike the computer. To me World PvP never gets old... Unlike PvE which is basically the same thing over and over. When someone spews/cries that they hate being ganked or PvP... It's cause they're use to playing kiddy games or their games are on easy mode.

 

These people who cry about PvP remind me of THAT kid who would throw his game controller w/e he lost.


 

These types of posts crack me up....

Yep...I dont have the reflexes of a 15 yr old anymore. Nor do I have the immaturity of one either.

If you would meet up with one of these "kids"(and that is putting it loosely...as some adults act the same way), and they would fight ya...then move on...hey NP.

But it doesnt work like that does it?

Corpse camping is considered "fun" to them.

I never played on a PvP server, and once I saw on brds what they were about, I was positive I never would either.

Granted I have seen posts by some PvP folks that I would deem "honorable" about it. There are just too many though that are the exact opposite. YOu typically can tell the ones...they are the first to throw all the "carebear" or whatever insults.

I may very well be a carebear....but it is a million times better than being a putz that spends their time griefing others, in an attempt to bolster their self-esteem.

The best part is these idiots cannot understand why most folks are not interested in sharing a server with em.

Truly priceless.


 

This post crack me up:P

You judge something you never have played?

Its obvious you never experience open pvp.

The reflex you maybe lack can be compensated by smart play more patience more relax playing style then 15 year olds have.

Why you care if your called a carebear? , you never played on a pvp server, your not intrested in pvp so why you care?

Its million times better for you, but not for pvp oriented players then its opposite of what you claim.

For each his own i say.

Sure some enjoy grief others or for self esteem, but its only game its only avatar you play in a computer game.

 Or is playing games so importend to you?, you cant handle 15yearolds?, you hurt your adult feelings?

But why this post crack me up is you try convince us you are an adult you see yourself much better then all those 15 year old pvp oriented players, but start calling them idiots, if you have anything learned as adult you should be able to stand above this, act like a wise adult and dont start judge or calling others idiots:).

Chill or relax more, its only a computer game, have fun with your pve game:)

 

  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 5375

8/09/08 11:41:09 AM#228
Originally posted by pkSlayde

 I have gone by the name of Slayde in my gaming life. As a pk I would like to tell you that pk is needed! It is needed because most Ultima Online (UO) veterans say that when they were scared it was the best part of the game, it provides a better community, and we are hunted down by others. This is why PK is important to a games life.

First of all, some veterans from the UO days claim that the most fun they had was when they were scared of being pk at every step. I was pk in Diablo 2 repeaditivly and it only made me stronger, because I learned how to survive in the world better. Uo had the murder-system which was where anyone killed anyone they wanted to wherever they wanted to. I should be able to in this game walk into a Dwarf city as a Chosen and kill anyone there NPC’s included, to hurt the other side. This is what would happen if chosen walked into a Dwarf city. Therefore pk is fun for fear reasons, and it is realistic.

Secondly, it provides a better community. Most older generation/teen generations get really annoyed at kids and players who beg, whine, bitch, spam, and tell Chuck Norris jokes. These people fill up the chat systems, and get ignored by others. But, When we kill them when they do this, they stop. If they don’t we kill them again and again. This makes people happy because they don’t have to listen to these people anymore. These players then start to actually play the game. PK makes a great community.

Lastly, people do get annoyed at us, which makes them ask their friends to come kill us. We need to be skillful at what we do because we can be killed at any moment as well. We also need to on the ball because we could be killed at any moment. Killing other players regardless of their level is a good aspect of the game.

Therefore, the online gaming world is made up of three different kinds of people: The Wolf, Carebear, and the Hero. The wolf is the PK, and he kills the carebears. The carebears are those who spam, whine, bitch, and beg. Carebears go and ask the Hero to save them by killing the Wolves. The Hero is the Anti-PK. They then go and kill the Wolves and are praised for it or they die trying. That is why PK is needed for online gaming.

 

LOL .. luckily almost no developer is listening to your silly ideas.

  Moaky07

Novice Member

Joined: 2/24/07
Posts: 1877

MMO sandbox games are as exciting as watching paint dry.

8/09/08 5:15:21 PM#229
Originally posted by Evasia
Originally posted by Moaky07
Originally posted by Soldier420

PvP will always take more skill than PvE IMO. In a fair PvP fight your opponent is unpredictable, unlike the computer. To me World PvP never gets old... Unlike PvE which is basically the same thing over and over. When someone spews/cries that they hate being ganked or PvP... It's cause they're use to playing kiddy games or their games are on easy mode.

 

These people who cry about PvP remind me of THAT kid who would throw his game controller w/e he lost.


 

These types of posts crack me up....

Yep...I dont have the reflexes of a 15 yr old anymore. Nor do I have the immaturity of one either.

If you would meet up with one of these "kids"(and that is putting it loosely...as some adults act the same way), and they would fight ya...then move on...hey NP.

But it doesnt work like that does it?

Corpse camping is considered "fun" to them.

I never played on a PvP server, and once I saw on brds what they were about, I was positive I never would either.

Granted I have seen posts by some PvP folks that I would deem "honorable" about it. There are just too many though that are the exact opposite. YOu typically can tell the ones...they are the first to throw all the "carebear" or whatever insults.

I may very well be a carebear....but it is a million times better than being a putz that spends their time griefing others, in an attempt to bolster their self-esteem.

The best part is these idiots cannot understand why most folks are not interested in sharing a server with em.

Truly priceless.


 

This post crack me up:P

You judge something you never have played?

Its obvious you never experience open pvp.

The reflex you maybe lack can be compensated by smart play more patience more relax playing style then 15 year olds have.

Why you care if your called a carebear? , you never played on a pvp server, your not intrested in pvp so why you care?

Its million times better for you, but not for pvp oriented players then its opposite of what you claim.

For each his own i say.

Sure some enjoy grief others or for self esteem, but its only game its only avatar you play in a computer game.

 Or is playing games so importend to you?, you cant handle 15yearolds?, you hurt your adult feelings?

But why this post crack me up is you try convince us you are an adult you see yourself much better then all those 15 year old pvp oriented players, but start calling them idiots, if you have anything learned as adult you should be able to stand above this, act like a wise adult and dont start judge or calling others idiots:).

Chill or relax more, its only a computer game, have fun with your pve game:)

 


 

Psst

 

What is the OP about?

 

It is about PK being needed in any MMORPG. That is why I responded.

Dont start judging? Act like wise adult?

I am acting like a wise adult...I avoid chit that obviously wont appeal to me.

As far as judging/namecalling...he who lives in glass houses shouldnt throw rocks.

"Becouse your a carebear, you dont like pvp, so dont play open pvp games, other wise dont whine about it."

Your words...not mine. Typical for a PvP drone.

You know everything...or at least you think you do. You may insult others...but dont let anything negative be reflected back upon ya... else ya whine.

Sound familiar?

But lets not forget the best part of all this...it is YOU THE PVP FOLKS that are begging for more people to PvP. It isnt the other way around.

You idiots are priceless. Insult the ones you are begging to come play a game that they will be griefed in.

Stupidity at its finest.

 

 

Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.

  vajuras

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Joined: 1/20/06
Posts: 2857

8/09/08 9:14:44 PM#230

I wonder why "some rare few" PVE'ers think pvpers are begging for them to please come play our MMO as if our game is empty? EVE is what about 250k with over 40,000 concurrent players online. With that many prey online you think we need for some player to come into the community, get killed one time, then campaign for a fractured server with different rule sets?

 

No, I want for EVE to always remain 1 server. So trust this- pkers are not begging carebears to come play. We enjoy the company of like minded individuals in our MMOs that way our way of life does not get 'dumbed' down or ruined.

  vajuras

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Joined: 1/20/06
Posts: 2857

8/09/08 9:24:12 PM#231
Originally posted by pkSlayde

 I have gone by the name of Slayde in my gaming life. As a pk I would like to tell you that pk is needed! It is needed because most Ultima Online (UO) veterans say that when they were scared it was the best part of the game, it provides a better community, and we are hunted down by others. This is why PK is important to a games life.

First of all, some veterans from the UO days claim that the most fun they had was when they were scared of being pk at every step. I was pk in Diablo 2 repeaditivly and it only made me stronger, because I learned how to survive in the world better. Uo had the murder-system which was where anyone killed anyone they wanted to wherever they wanted to. I should be able to in this game walk into a Dwarf city as a Chosen and kill anyone there NPC’s included, to hurt the other side. This is what would happen if chosen walked into a Dwarf city. Therefore pk is fun for fear reasons, and it is realistic.

Secondly, it provides a better community. Most older generation/teen generations get really annoyed at kids and players who beg, whine, bitch, spam, and tell Chuck Norris jokes. These people fill up the chat systems, and get ignored by others. But, When we kill them when they do this, they stop. If they don’t we kill them again and again. This makes people happy because they don’t have to listen to these people anymore. These players then start to actually play the game. PK makes a great community.

Lastly, people do get annoyed at us, which makes them ask their friends to come kill us. We need to be skillful at what we do because we can be killed at any moment as well. We also need to on the ball because we could be killed at any moment. Killing other players regardless of their level is a good aspect of the game.

Therefore, the online gaming world is made up of three different kinds of people: The Wolf, Carebear, and the Hero. The wolf is the PK, and he kills the carebears. The carebears are those who spam, whine, bitch, and beg. Carebears go and ask the Hero to save them by killing the Wolves. The Hero is the Anti-PK. They then go and kill the Wolves and are praised for it or they die trying. That is why PK is needed for online gaming.

 

Had to re-read because this thread been around for so long. Hm, like I said before I agree but I also understand some players dont want to be bothered with PKs.

 

As long as they get their own games and we get ours I'm fine. We're getting plenty of love I think these days on the PK front. And there is always FPS if I need some twitch

 

I do hope for MMOFPS one day that lacks -RPG elements altogether. Just some minor progression like FPS games have now will be fine for me. No roleplay, just 24/7 murder show

  laleb

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Joined: 10/16/06
Posts: 216

To fight with honor is great. I will remember that when I pull my blade from your back

8/09/08 9:26:37 PM#232
Originally posted by vajuras
Originally posted by pkSlayde

 I have gone by the name of Slayde in my gaming life. As a pk I would like to tell you that pk is needed! It is needed because most Ultima Online (UO) veterans say that when they were scared it was the best part of the game, it provides a better community, and we are hunted down by others. This is why PK is important to a games life.

First of all, some veterans from the UO days claim that the most fun they had was when they were scared of being pk at every step. I was pk in Diablo 2 repeaditivly and it only made me stronger, because I learned how to survive in the world better. Uo had the murder-system which was where anyone killed anyone they wanted to wherever they wanted to. I should be able to in this game walk into a Dwarf city as a Chosen and kill anyone there NPC’s included, to hurt the other side. This is what would happen if chosen walked into a Dwarf city. Therefore pk is fun for fear reasons, and it is realistic.

Secondly, it provides a better community. Most older generation/teen generations get really annoyed at kids and players who beg, whine, bitch, spam, and tell Chuck Norris jokes. These people fill up the chat systems, and get ignored by others. But, When we kill them when they do this, they stop. If they don’t we kill them again and again. This makes people happy because they don’t have to listen to these people anymore. These players then start to actually play the game. PK makes a great community.

Lastly, people do get annoyed at us, which makes them ask their friends to come kill us. We need to be skillful at what we do because we can be killed at any moment as well. We also need to on the ball because we could be killed at any moment. Killing other players regardless of their level is a good aspect of the game.

Therefore, the online gaming world is made up of three different kinds of people: The Wolf, Carebear, and the Hero. The wolf is the PK, and he kills the carebears. The carebears are those who spam, whine, bitch, and beg. Carebears go and ask the Hero to save them by killing the Wolves. The Hero is the Anti-PK. They then go and kill the Wolves and are praised for it or they die trying. That is why PK is needed for online gaming.

 

Had to re-read because this thread been around for so long. Hm, like I said before I agree but I also understand some players dont want to be bothered with PKs.

 

As long as they get their own games and we get ours I'm fine. We're getting plenty of love I think these days on the PK front. And there is always FPS if I need some twitch

 

I do hope for MMOFPS one day that lacks -RPG elements altogether. Just some minor progression like FPS games have now will be fine for me. No roleplay, just 24/7 murder show

I thought that is what counter strike and halo is for?

  vajuras

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Joined: 1/20/06
Posts: 2857

8/10/08 1:18:34 PM#233
Originally posted by laleb
Originally posted by vajuras
Originally posted by pkSlayde

 I have gone by the name of Slayde in my gaming life. As a pk I would like to tell you that pk is needed! It is needed because most Ultima Online (UO) veterans say that when they were scared it was the best part of the game, it provides a better community, and we are hunted down by others. This is why PK is important to a games life.

First of all, some veterans from the UO days claim that the most fun they had was when they were scared of being pk at every step. I was pk in Diablo 2 repeaditivly and it only made me stronger, because I learned how to survive in the world better. Uo had the murder-system which was where anyone killed anyone they wanted to wherever they wanted to. I should be able to in this game walk into a Dwarf city as a Chosen and kill anyone there NPC’s included, to hurt the other side. This is what would happen if chosen walked into a Dwarf city. Therefore pk is fun for fear reasons, and it is realistic.

Secondly, it provides a better community. Most older generation/teen generations get really annoyed at kids and players who beg, whine, bitch, spam, and tell Chuck Norris jokes. These people fill up the chat systems, and get ignored by others. But, When we kill them when they do this, they stop. If they don’t we kill them again and again. This makes people happy because they don’t have to listen to these people anymore. These players then start to actually play the game. PK makes a great community.

Lastly, people do get annoyed at us, which makes them ask their friends to come kill us. We need to be skillful at what we do because we can be killed at any moment as well. We also need to on the ball because we could be killed at any moment. Killing other players regardless of their level is a good aspect of the game.

Therefore, the online gaming world is made up of three different kinds of people: The Wolf, Carebear, and the Hero. The wolf is the PK, and he kills the carebears. The carebears are those who spam, whine, bitch, and beg. Carebears go and ask the Hero to save them by killing the Wolves. The Hero is the Anti-PK. They then go and kill the Wolves and are praised for it or they die trying. That is why PK is needed for online gaming.

 

Had to re-read because this thread been around for so long. Hm, like I said before I agree but I also understand some players dont want to be bothered with PKs.

 

As long as they get their own games and we get ours I'm fine. We're getting plenty of love I think these days on the PK front. And there is always FPS if I need some twitch

 

I do hope for MMOFPS one day that lacks -RPG elements altogether. Just some minor progression like FPS games have now will be fine for me. No roleplay, just 24/7 murder show

I thought that is what counter strike and halo is for?

 

FPS games lack persistence.

An MMOFPS should be like EVE Online but rather then have time based training and auto-attack we can use our player skill.

 

  Laneo

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Posts: 374

8/10/08 2:12:14 PM#234
Originally posted by Zorvan

 

Originally posted by pkSlayde

 

HAHAHAAHAHAAAaAAaaaaaahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

The delusion is strong in this one.

 

Go ask Blizzard how much not having pk has hurt them.


The IWinButtonEmoRetardedCarebearEasymodeSitbackAndLetTheGamePlayItselfLoser Is Very Strong in this one!

WoWFanboi has spoken eh?

You are too young to understand, but all you want to do is spurt nonsense which you have no clue about.

Too bad you are under 18, Your dad can beat your ass for me! Retarded bigmouth!

Nobody is perfect...My name is Nobody

  User Deleted
8/10/08 2:32:16 PM#235
Originally posted by Moaky07
Originally posted by Evasia
Originally posted by Moaky07
Originally posted by Soldier420

PvP will always take more skill than PvE IMO. In a fair PvP fight your opponent is unpredictable, unlike the computer. To me World PvP never gets old... Unlike PvE which is basically the same thing over and over. When someone spews/cries that they hate being ganked or PvP... It's cause they're use to playing kiddy games or their games are on easy mode.

 

These people who cry about PvP remind me of THAT kid who would throw his game controller w/e he lost.


 

These types of posts crack me up....

Yep...I dont have the reflexes of a 15 yr old anymore. Nor do I have the immaturity of one either.

If you would meet up with one of these "kids"(and that is putting it loosely...as some adults act the same way), and they would fight ya...then move on...hey NP.

But it doesnt work like that does it?

Corpse camping is considered "fun" to them.

I never played on a PvP server, and once I saw on brds what they were about, I was positive I never would either.

Granted I have seen posts by some PvP folks that I would deem "honorable" about it. There are just too many though that are the exact opposite. YOu typically can tell the ones...they are the first to throw all the "carebear" or whatever insults.

I may very well be a carebear....but it is a million times better than being a putz that spends their time griefing others, in an attempt to bolster their self-esteem.

The best part is these idiots cannot understand why most folks are not interested in sharing a server with em.

Truly priceless.


 

This post crack me up:P

You judge something you never have played?

Its obvious you never experience open pvp.

The reflex you maybe lack can be compensated by smart play more patience more relax playing style then 15 year olds have.

Why you care if your called a carebear? , you never played on a pvp server, your not intrested in pvp so why you care?

Its million times better for you, but not for pvp oriented players then its opposite of what you claim.

For each his own i say.

Sure some enjoy grief others or for self esteem, but its only game its only avatar you play in a computer game.

 Or is playing games so importend to you?, you cant handle 15yearolds?, you hurt your adult feelings?

But why this post crack me up is you try convince us you are an adult you see yourself much better then all those 15 year old pvp oriented players, but start calling them idiots, if you have anything learned as adult you should be able to stand above this, act like a wise adult and dont start judge or calling others idiots:).

Chill or relax more, its only a computer game, have fun with your pve game:)

 


 

Psst

 

What is the OP about?

 

It is about PK being needed in any MMORPG. That is why I responded.

Dont start judging? Act like wise adult?

I am acting like a wise adult...I avoid chit that obviously wont appeal to me.

As far as judging/namecalling...he who lives in glass houses shouldnt throw rocks.

"Becouse your a carebear, you dont like pvp, so dont play open pvp games, other wise dont whine about it."

Your words...not mine. Typical for a PvP drone.

You know everything...or at least you think you do. You may insult others...but dont let anything negative be reflected back upon ya... else ya whine.

Sound familiar?

But lets not forget the best part of all this...it is YOU THE PVP FOLKS that are begging for more people to PvP. It isnt the other way around.

You idiots are priceless. Insult the ones you are begging to come play a game that they will be griefed in.

Stupidity at its finest.

 

 

No matter what we try to say, you will always insult and wanne have last word and generalise all pvp oriented as the same, but np calling us stupid or pricesless idiots say more about you then us.

Learn to read and analise it first before jump to conclusions, and insults dont bother me, you are some nameless meatsack, somewhere save behind his pc and think he is so tough calling others idiot's:P

Try to growup a litlle and wise up, your not there yet but if you try hard who knows maybe someday you can reply a little more mature:)

  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 5375

8/10/08 2:38:34 PM#236
Originally posted by vajuras

I wonder why "some rare few" PVE'ers think pvpers are begging for them to please come play our MMO as if our game is empty? EVE is what about 250k with over 40,000 concurrent players online. With that many prey online you think we need for some player to come into the community, get killed one time, then campaign for a fractured server with different rule sets?

 

No, I want for EVE to always remain 1 server. So trust this- pkers are not begging carebears to come play. We enjoy the company of like minded individuals in our MMOs that way our way of life does not get 'dumbed' down or ruined.

 

Isn't that the other way around with all the pkers bitching & moaning about not enough MMOs have PK?

Eve needs the PvEers to expand its business a lot MORE than PvEers need Eve. There are plenty of PvE-centric games out there.

 

  vajuras

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Joined: 1/20/06
Posts: 2857

8/10/08 2:43:56 PM#237
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by vajuras

I wonder why "some rare few" PVE'ers think pvpers are begging for them to please come play our MMO as if our game is empty? EVE is what about 250k with over 40,000 concurrent players online. With that many prey online you think we need for some player to come into the community, get killed one time, then campaign for a fractured server with different rule sets?

 

No, I want for EVE to always remain 1 server. So trust this- pkers are not begging carebears to come play. We enjoy the company of like minded individuals in our MMOs that way our way of life does not get 'dumbed' down or ruined.

 

Isn't that the other way around with all the pkers bitching & moaning about not enough MMOs have PK?

Eve needs the PvEers to expand its business a lot MORE than PvEers need Eve. There are plenty of PvE-centric games out there.

 


Hm, not really most pve'ers that play EVE in my experience are open to pvp. They have to be, because they be killed anytime they undock (literally)


 

  vajuras

Novice Member

Joined: 1/20/06
Posts: 2857

8/10/08 3:04:25 PM#238

Bah narusselsen made me do something hate doing and that is misrepresent EVE Online. It is true there is no safe zones in normal MMO speak. But there are 'safer' zones. I unfortunately cannot properly explain EVE Online it is truly complex. All I can say is that obviously, many pve'ers have a long lifespan. I've never been killed in high sec myself and I've been playing for close to a year.

 

It's a game for everyone and it cannot be properly summed up in a post.

 

?Unfortunately not all players are attracted to being in space. However, I come here to mmorpg.com almost every morning before I go to work. This is the only pvp thread I can recall reading in many, many weeks.

 

I do not think pvpers are moaning and crying? If they are, well I dont blame them only EVE Online has meaningful pvp and battles and persistent wars that end (that is a current MMO with current graphics)

 

 

 

 

  Ceromus

Elite Member

Joined: 9/20/03
Posts: 80

8/10/08 3:53:18 PM#239

I just thought id throw in some facts here.

1.  If OP is really 16 now, then he would have been 6 in UO (at least in the decent pk time period)

2.  OP's kill count in his sig is impossible. 

3.  Raph koster is designer dragon UO's lead dev, he worked on SWG.  He considers UOs freedom a failure because he did not forsee people wanting to grief each other.

4.  Tom chilton is Evocare the UO lead dev that destroyed UO's pvp and produced age of shadows.  He is also kaigan developer for world of warcraft.  Blizzard considers him their PvP Guru (laugh).

5.  Why are people bringing up player counts.   The number of people with a computer has infinitely increased since the late 90's. 

That being said I am a fan of open PK.   I do not think the games or the people are ready for open PK to come back.  In Ultima Online it was not uncommon for a player to fight another player 1on1 and not run away even though he could lose all of his gear.  In World of Warcraft people run constantly and won't come back until they have a whole gang to back them up even though they would have lost nothing upon death.

In WoW I enter a battlegrounds and do my very best to win while my allies sit at stables and brag about afking. 

Its a different breed of games for a different breed of players.

Carebears.

  Wodge

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Joined: 3/12/04
Posts: 7

8/10/08 3:57:56 PM#240
Originally posted by pkSlayde
Originally posted by Zorvan
Originally posted by pkSlayde

also to eliminate pk is eliminating the R in MMORPG. there is a reason D&D ,Harn, ect. involved Chaotic Evil characters. because it is roleplaying a murderer. so to not include pk is to get rid of the roleplaying part in the Massivly Multiplayer Online ROLEPLAYING Game


 

Nope, I can roleplay a dwarf who likes to get drunk and kill wolves all day long. So again, you fail.

you miss my point. pk are ROLEPLAYING the murderers and criminals in the games society. so therefore we are also roleplaying. when people get rid of pk they are getting rid of the freedom of roleplaying.

So, if you roleplay a criminal or murderer, you won't get annoyed when npc's catch you, lock you in prison for several years, and force you, through a clause in the games EULA, to pay the subscription, even though gameplay from that point onwards involves staring through a window in your virtual cell, watching all the "carebares" having fun, while you, Mr Menace to Society, sits there, trapped, with a fat man who loves you in a "special" way.

You talk about people getting rid of PK, and taking away your freedom, but murdurers and criminals have their freedom taken away and get put in prison, thats what roleplaying a scumbag gets you!

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