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JestorRodo
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Joined: 2/24/05
Avoid the DarkDownload - Come to MMOfringe.com Love that Jestor! |
First it was the SWG TCG and Now! - www.eurogamer.net/article.php Star Wars Galaxies to get vehicle combat
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I wish soe would just go away..... oh btw Kauri was my sever of choice way back when. |
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JestorRodo
Hard Core Member
Joined: 2/24/05
Avoid the DarkDownload - Come to MMOfringe.com Love that Jestor! |
Originally posted by Eussic
It was mine too before 1/9/05 and my month and a half visit 10/06. The Turkey Day Rodo Report! Love that Jestor! |
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So what makes you think that swg will be shutting down anytime soon? don't get me wrong i would love for that day im just curious. |
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Heh, so they're FINALLY doing something about vehicle combat? We've been begging (repeatedly) for that in the Pre-CU days. Too bad they couldn't do that when there were actually alot of players. Another example of late timing and missed opportunities. "The Empire always strikes back!" - Grand Admiral Pallaeon |
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JestorRodo
Hard Core Member
Joined: 2/24/05
Avoid the DarkDownload - Come to MMOfringe.com Love that Jestor! |
Originally posted by Eussic
Your new here , Please visit the Myspacegroup I have linked below for my reasons.
The Turkey Day Rodo Report! Love that Jestor! |
Originally posted by Eussic
Jestor's been predicting the imminent shutdown of SWG for three years now. And every time the date of his "prediction" passes, he just makes another one, as if the previous one never happened. Facts have a liberal bias. |
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Originally posted by kobie173
Jestor's been predicting the imminent shutdown of SWG for three years now. And every time the date of his "prediction" passes, he just makes another one, as if the previous one never happened. After six months of NGE I was amazed at the fact of the game still not shutting down. Now it seems to me a joke that the game is still live.. I know nothing about business models or strategies or marketing but the first day I read what NGE was going to be I was sure SOE should send their suits to business night classes. it has been and will be an example of what you never have to do. it was a sinking ship since 2005-11-15. SOE has not offered classics or rolled back in its moment just cause of PROUD. So it is normal that Jestor ,me and other people give dates above shutting cause it is a real joke that it is still live.
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It could be a loss leader -- a product that gets people in the door. Star Wars sells -- that much is certain. People try the game out because it's Star Wars -- then SONY Viral marketers spread the line that EQ2 is a much better game, and the only reason the game is bad is LA "forced the NGE." People then try EQ2 and find that it IS a much better game, so they start playing that one. It might be worth keeping afloat for that reason alone. Plus they actualy soend so little on it, it might just clear a small profit. |
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Originally posted by Fishermage you know, I have the same feeling with SWG than I had with Friday 13th films; at the end of each film Jason always died but suddenly body was gone and we got another film LOL |
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Originally posted by Fishermage
This really isn't that bad a strategy from SOE's perspective. SWG as a "loss leader" to introduce potential addicts to the other crack SOE offers. The entire station pass system plays to this strategy. CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested. Once a denizen of Ahazi |
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Originally posted by Sempayw After six months of NGE I was amazed at the fact of the game still not shutting down. Now it seems to me a joke that the game is still live.. I know nothing about business models or strategies or marketing but the first day I read what NGE was going to be I was sure SOE should send their suits to business night classes. it has been and will be an example of what you never have to do. it was a sinking ship since 2005-11-15. SOE has not offered classics or rolled back in its moment just cause of PROUD. So it is normal that Jestor ,me and other people give dates above shutting cause it is a real joke that it is still live.
No, it's not normal. In fact, it surprises me that people continue to do it, since you'd think that constantly saying "THIS IS IT! THREE MONTHS TO SHUTDOWN!" for three years would pretty much nuke anyone's credibility straight to hell. Not here, though. Here, such klaxon-like alarm is embraced, even celebrated, since the blind hatred of the game and the lack of respect for those that still play it trump any sense of self-restraint. And, eventually, when the gates do close, Jestor and his "Love that Jestor" sycophants will say "See! Just as Jestor predicted!" -- completely ignoring the fact that he's been dead wrong for three years and will continue to be dead wrong until the day that, by complete coincidence, he happens to be right. Facts have a liberal bias. |
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Originally posted by kobie173 After six months of NGE I was amazed at the fact of the game still not shutting down. Now it seems to me a joke that the game is still live.. I know nothing about business models or strategies or marketing but the first day I read what NGE was going to be I was sure SOE should send their suits to business night classes. it has been and will be an example of what you never have to do. it was a sinking ship since 2005-11-15. SOE has not offered classics or rolled back in its moment just cause of PROUD. So it is normal that Jestor ,me and other people give dates above shutting cause it is a real joke that it is still live.
No, it's not normal. In fact, it surprises me that people continue to do it, since you'd think that constantly saying "THIS IS IT! THREE MONTHS TO SHUTDOWN!" for three years would pretty much nuke anyone's credibility straight to hell. Not here, though. Here, such klaxon-like alarm is embraced, even celebrated, since the blind hatred of the game and the lack of respect for those that still play it trump any sense of self-restraint. And, eventually, when the gates do close, Jestor and his "Love that Jestor" sycophants will say "See! Just as Jestor predicted!" -- completely ignoring the fact that he's been dead wrong for three years and will continue to be dead wrong until the day that, by complete coincidence, he happens to be right. Of course, nobody here has a crystal ball. When I see a date about the end of the game, I just think ' I wish'; (usually these dates come after some news related to game) I dont consider dates as 'predictions' but as a fact that people is still amazed that this joke of version of the game is still live. Thats why we see so many dates.
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Originally posted by Sempayw I'd just like to know why you wish it would shutdown? I hate a lot of games on the market , But It doesn't bother me they exist . I just feel that sort of outlook is exactly how SOE approached our player base , They loathed the fact we were enjoying what they had at the time , it wasn't making them the blizzard killer they wanted to be .I am not trying to knock on your opinion , i just wonder what the motivation behind it is. Is it vindication you seek, At the cost of others enjoyment ? For every minute You are angry , You lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson |
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Originally posted by kobie173 I think of it this way: SWG was somewhat successful. It was cancelled and shut down. Players were migrated to SW:NGE. If SWG, which had some measure of success, was cancelled and killed dead, why wouldn't SOE kill off SW:NGE, which is much less successful? EQ was launched 3/16/99. EQ2 was launched 11/08/04. That's about a 5 year and 8 month gap. EQ was doing way better than SW:NGE is now, when EQ2 was launched. SWG is over 5 years old. Where is SWG2? It should already be in beta. Yet we hear nothing not even rumors not a peep. With SWG2 SOE could make a huge marketing blitz that they've "listened to the players" and try to woo the fans. They could turn the page if they played it right. The fact that SWG2 doesn't exist lets us know SW:NGE's days are numbered, especially now that we know SW:TOR is coming out instead of SWG2. SW:NGE has no expansions for a reason. Relax. Let us fling feces at SOE's zombie MMO while we still can. |
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Still waiting to see jestor without a mask- like i predicted, SWG will not shut down this august.
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Originally posted by Sempayw
No, it's not normal. In fact, it surprises me that people continue to do it, since you'd think that constantly saying "THIS IS IT! THREE MONTHS TO SHUTDOWN!" for three years would pretty much nuke anyone's credibility straight to hell. Not here, though. Here, such klaxon-like alarm is embraced, even celebrated, since the blind hatred of the game and the lack of respect for those that still play it trump any sense of self-restraint. And, eventually, when the gates do close, Jestor and his "Love that Jestor" sycophants will say "See! Just as Jestor predicted!" -- completely ignoring the fact that he's been dead wrong for three years and will continue to be dead wrong until the day that, by complete coincidence, he happens to be right. Of course, nobody here has a crystal ball. When I see a date about the end of the game, I just think ' I wish'; (usually these dates come after some news related to game) I dont consider dates as 'predictions' but as a fact that people is still amazed that this joke of version of the game is still live. Thats why we see so many dates.
That's a convenient stance to take -- they're not "predictions," even when people "predict" things. It amazes me the way people on this board will twist words and justify the absurd to continue the charade. Facts have a liberal bias. |
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Originally posted by SuperMatt I think of it this way: SWG was somewhat successful. It was cancelled and shut down. Players were migrated to SW:NGE. If SWG, which had some measure of success, was cancelled and killed dead, why wouldn't SOE kill off SW:NGE, which is much less successful? EQ was launched 3/16/99. EQ2 was launched 11/08/04. That's about a 5 year and 8 month gap. EQ was doing way better than SW:NGE is now, when EQ2 was launched. SWG is over 5 years old. Where is SWG2? It should already be in beta. Yet we hear nothing not even rumors not a peep. With SWG2 SOE could make a huge marketing blitz that they've "listened to the players" and try to woo the fans. They could turn the page if they played it right. The fact that SWG2 doesn't exist lets us know SW:NGE's days are numbered, especially now that we know SW:TOR is coming out instead of SWG2. SW:NGE has no expansions for a reason. Relax. Let us fling feces at SOE's zombie MMO while we still can. Of course its days are numbered, and nobody outside of the most rabid "fanboi" would say otherwise. EVERYTHING'S days are numbered. You think people will still be playing WoW in the year 2162? However, SWG has been on its last 100 days for the past THREE YEARS, if you listen to the people in this forum. And every time it gets past the "predicted" date, all that comes are excuses and justifications, 99% of which are utter horseshit. Add that to the ridiculously lowballed subscription estimates that people like our esteemed Mr. Rodo and others chuck out there, and the credibility of the anti-SWG brigade should be zero -- except that nobody else on this board cares. They want to hear that SWG sucks, and as long as they hear that from the people who will say ANYTHING, then they are happy with that. Facts have a liberal bias. |
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Originally posted by kobie173
The reason you keep seeing people making these claims is probably because of it's plasuability.
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Originally posted by Suvroc
The reason you keep seeing people making these claims is probably because of it's plasuability.
Nah I think it's purely because enough people are now ready for a new Star Wars mmo that doesn't stink. It's a common theory that there can only ever be one Star Wars mmo at any given time due to exclusivity clauses. The rumours are born purely out of peoples desire to see a new Star Wars mmo that appeals to them. While I find the "my source" bullshit unbelievably funny to read I can still see that there's the best of intentions behind them which ultimately lie in the desire to see a new Star Wars mmo that isn't tarnished in anyway by the hand of SOE. ...The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a large population of people, often with well developed literary and scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to undertake analytical thought. |
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Tzimiscechi
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Joined: 8/04/07
Ah my favorite brain soup: cream of no where. What''s the matter kid, don''t you like clowns? |
....I'm sorry, adding a little vanilla to the New Coke isn't going to make me any more inclined to drink it. IT'S THE SAME NASTY CRAP. *Hits SOE in their tiny b*lls with a crowbar*....
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Originally posted by Fishermage
The problem with that theory is that SWG is no longer in box/CD production. It has been almost two years since a boxed version of the game was produced for retail (the 'Complete' collection). There is a trial version of the game in the Best of Star Wars box ('Five of the best Star Wars games! Oh, and a trial of SWG too...' It really does say basically that on the back of the box), but LEC wasn't even able to sell the 50K run of the Complete box, so they obviously feel the game has no retail value.
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Originally posted by Suvroc
The reason you keep seeing people making these claims is probably because of it's plasuability. If it's so plausible, how come it hasn't happened yet? You're grasping at straws here. Facts have a liberal bias. |
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Originally posted by kobie173 If it's so plausible, how come it hasn't happened yet? You're grasping at straws here.
Plausible essentially means it's possible and believable - which of course it is. It then becomes an issue of likelihood which is not what I said here at all. You're putting words into my mouth.
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Originally posted by Suvroc If it's so plausible, how come it hasn't happened yet? You're grasping at straws here.
Plausible essentially means it's possible and believable - which of course it is. It then becomes an issue of likelihood which is not what I said here at all. You're putting words into my mouth. Fair enough. BTW (not directed at you, Suvroc), I've noticed that at least two of my posts in this thread have been reported. I'd love to know on what grounds. Facts have a liberal bias. |
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It's about closure. The SW:TOR announcement was very close to closure for me, but there's a lingering part of me that wants to see the lights go out. I'm sure a lot of people feel that way. How much longer can this zombie stand? I don't know. Let me pick up another handful.
