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8/01/08 12:14:21 PM#21
Originally posted by Yaros
well... aehm. these are 4 lines of defenses, you know? like WALLS. and a GATE. WAR's are REGIONS, you know? with KEEPS and a full area?. the only thing I see in common is the number 4, so I guess WAR has the copyright on that number right? they have 4 classes/race after all.... oh... not anymore, wait a second there.... Really, I am looking forward to WAR, I love WoW but this is going a tad overboard.... YES they have 4 (FOUR) lines of defense! I do not see how THAT count for "copying" WAR! Get something a bit more original, will ya? "If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime" |
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8/01/08 12:57:55 PM#22
Ok, I was wrong, but Vick's answer was stupid anyway. |
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8/08/08 9:54:34 AM#23
the funny part is, that even if they did get the inspiration for this BG from WAR, it will probably be more polished and well made than the version WAR has yes im cynical about new games...when was the last time a good one came out?! |
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8/08/08 12:22:38 PM#24
Looks sweet! I've always loved defending in Alterec Valley. But half the time the group doesn't see defending as being important and moans and complains that a small group defends galv.
Now they won't be able to moan and complain that we are playing Defense! Woo! "The public is wonderfully tolerant. It forgives everything except genius." |
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8/08/08 2:40:15 PM#25
Originally posted by b0rderline99
That's a pretty stupid thing to say considering WAR beta opens in a week or so, just wait and see. I don't even see why there's so much hate between the two games. This is like EQ and DAoC all over again, different focus, different goals, different target audience. As for the copying argument, all gaming companies, not just MMOs do it. Look at FPS games, details change but the game itself remains very similar. Blizzard wasn't exactly innovative when they made WoW either, they took the best parts that were done before, added a few things and alot of polish and produced a great game. The specifically hired old EQ hardcore raiders and because of it, the endgame was in essence an expansion on EQ's raiding game, but more accessible to players. I hope both games do well, the industry needs a few good games in competition to raise standards instead of more half finished games. |
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8/08/08 2:55:40 PM#26
> 1 < new battle gorund? yay.... we need an overhaul on ATLEAST 5. How many new instances do we keep getting? We got 9 non-raid instances from BC and only 1New BG that wasnt original at all.
And now we get ONLY 1 NEW BG. And whats it about??? TURTLING!!!!! F*CK YES! "but let's go kill some birds. I'm psyched."
off-note my prediction of this BG is that it will grant more honor than AV in relatively the same amount of time it takes to win a EotS or AB (which just makes in an easier grind, cause thats all we need >.> )
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Originally posted by darkstar912 Yes lets throw 10 new battlegrounds in wotlk.. lets spread the population out so thin that theres never enough people queued for any of the battles. Right now I can go to any battle master in the evenings or weekends and see around 5 or so battlegrounds running (1-2 Av's) and about twice as many in the weeks nominated battle ground. Blizzard talked about battle grounds and arenas, how they design them, why there are only 5 etc in last years blizzcon (videos on youtube if you care to look) and I bet you have no idea that EoS battle ground was designed to have the flag (that is now in center of the map) on a floating rock that circled the map.. but after play testing it was decided to be taken out. Blizzard have done the numbers, crunched the data they know wether its productive or counter-productive at add 1,2 or 3 new battle grounds. More is not always better. Please just think before posting, goes along with the flying mounts in azeroth.. if ppl thought about it for just a few seconds they would realise why it cant happen.
BTW we get 1 new battle ground and revamped AV. |
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ronan32
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8/08/08 4:18:23 PM#28
Originally posted by Pepsipwnzgod
how can you say that that is amazing and then say war is stale. i mean blizzard is clearly ripping off ideas from war because they feel threatened. if this wotlk battleground amazes you, how can war not amaze you even more...unless you're just a rampaging fanboi. |
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ronan32
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8/08/08 4:25:55 PM#29
Originally posted by coffee Yes lets throw 10 new battlegrounds in wotlk.. lets spread the population out so thin that theres never enough people queued for any of the battles. Right now I can go to any battle master in the evenings or weekends and see around 5 or so battlegrounds running (1-2 Av's) and about twice as many in the weeks nominated battle ground. Blizzard talked about battle grounds and arenas, how they design them, why there are only 5 etc in last years blizzcon (videos on youtube if you care to look) and I bet you have no idea that EoS battle ground was designed to have the flag (that is now in center of the map) on a floating rock that circled the map.. but after play testing it was decided to be taken out. Blizzard have done the numbers, crunched the data they know wether its productive or counter-productive at add 1,2 or 3 new battle grounds. More is not always better. Please just think before posting, goes along with the flying mounts in azeroth.. if ppl thought about it for just a few seconds they would realise why it cant happen.
BTW we get 1 new battle ground and revamped AV.
if blizzard were scientologist's you would be seriously fucked. stop worshiping a games company . |
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Ascension08
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"Silence is golden, duct tape is silver, but the White Border of Darkfall rules over all!" |
8/08/08 4:29:41 PM#30
I'd rather have people spread out over more battlegrounds so I don't have to waste ~5 or, for AV, usually 8-10 minutes of my life waiting to get in. Also, trying to twink PvP when there were alot of twinks had some queues which lasted TWENTY MINUTES. 20 minutes to get in a 15 minute or less game, if it was quick...pretty sad.
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Originally posted by ronan32
if blizzard were scientologist's you would be seriously fucked. stop worshiping a games company . Ill worship Blizzard.. you can carry on worshiping your false god of WAR. |
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Originally posted by Ascension08
Are you saying more battlegorund will make the queue times shorter? |
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Ascension08
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8/08/08 4:34:40 PM#33
Originally posted by coffee
Are you saying more battlegorund will make the queue times shorter? Obviously, it offers more variety. More people waiting to get into a BG = longer queue times, just like your favorite ride at the amusement park. OR is it calculated by some ultra scientific and absolutely complicated system that only the math gods, Blizzard, could concoct? Sorry. -------------------------------------- Order of the White Border. |
Originally posted by Ascension08 Obviously, it offers more variety. More people waiting to get into a BG = longer queue times, just like your favorite ride at the amusement park. OR is it calculated by some ultra scientific and absolutely complicated system that only the math gods, Blizzard, could concoct? Sorry. For that to happen the number of players would have to increase to compensate. what I was saying is that if there is a fix number of players say 100 its easier and faster for them to get a game if there are 5 battle grounds than if there were 10. Lets say 100 people go to the amusement park... the rollercoster cant run unless there are 50 people in the queue, the tea cups cant run unless there are 20 people, the log flume cant run unless there are 30, the merry go round cant run unless there are 20 and the vomit rocket can run unless there are 30 people. so thats 5 rides.. all of them cant run at the same time, theres not enough people, and it my even be the case that theres not enough people queued for either ride so none of the rides will run. ok so lets only give them the roller coster, the tea cups and then vomit rocket.. there now all 3 can run at the same time and much less likely to be in a situation where none can run. Hope ya got all that. |
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8/08/08 5:09:08 PM#35
First of all, looks darkish but then again i guess they are trying to put in more true Warcraft into it, also the feeling of D-day i suppose, nice catch, well it's blizzard so it's going to be enjoyable atleast for the first many hours.
Second thing....
What are all the WAR fanboi zombies doing in here anyway? They keep talking about people trolling the WAR forums with negative stuff, yet they walk in here and do it a few times more?.... Jesus balls....
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Ascension08
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"Silence is golden, duct tape is silver, but the White Border of Darkfall rules over all!" |
8/08/08 5:13:16 PM#36
Originally posted by coffee Obviously, it offers more variety. More people waiting to get into a BG = longer queue times, just like your favorite ride at the amusement park. OR is it calculated by some ultra scientific and absolutely complicated system that only the math gods, Blizzard, could concoct? Sorry. For that to happen the number of players would have to increase to compensate. what I was saying is that if there is a fix number of players say 100 its easier and faster for them to get a game if there are 5 battle grounds than if there were 10. Lets say 100 people go to the amusement park... the rollercoster cant run unless there are 50 people in the queue, the tea cups cant run unless there are 20 people, the log flume cant run unless there are 30, the merry go round cant run unless there are 20 and the vomit rocket can run unless there are 30 people. so thats 5 rides.. all of them cant run at the same time, theres not enough people, and it my even be the case that theres not enough people queued for either ride so none of the rides will run. ok so lets only give them the roller coster, the tea cups and then vomit rocket.. there now all 3 can run at the same time and much less likely to be in a situation where none can run. Hope ya got all that. This is so funny because you're the fanboi of a game with over 10 million subs, yet you're talking about "not enough people". Move to a more populated server if you're in the sticks. The point is, why do all of them have to run? If I have a steel roller coaster and a wooden one, I want to ride the steel one. I wouldn't care less if the wooden was running or not. People have the same mentality, they will flock to the battlegrounds that are more fun. HOWEVER, when the steel roller coaster gets overpopulated, wouldn't it be NICE to have the wooden one which is still a roller coaster but with less people? Hope ya got all that. -------------------------------------- Order of the White Border. |
Originally posted by Ascension08 For that to happen the number of players would have to increase to compensate. what I was saying is that if there is a fix number of players say 100 its easier and faster for them to get a game if there are 5 battle grounds than if there were 10. Lets say 100 people go to the amusement park... the rollercoster cant run unless there are 50 people in the queue, the tea cups cant run unless there are 20 people, the log flume cant run unless there are 30, the merry go round cant run unless there are 20 and the vomit rocket can run unless there are 30 people. so thats 5 rides.. all of them cant run at the same time, theres not enough people, and it my even be the case that theres not enough people queued for either ride so none of the rides will run. ok so lets only give them the roller coster, the tea cups and then vomit rocket.. there now all 3 can run at the same time and much less likely to be in a situation where none can run. Hope ya got all that. This is so funny because you're the fanboi of a game with over 10 million subs, yet you're talking about "not enough people". Move to a more populated server if you're in the sticks. The point is, why do all of them have to run? If I have a steel roller coaster and a wooden one, I want to ride the steel one. I wouldn't care less if the wooden was running or not. People have the same mentality, they will flock to the battlegrounds that are more fun. HOWEVER, when the steel roller coaster gets overpopulated, wouldn't it be NICE to have the wooden one which is still a roller coaster but with less people? Hope ya got all that. Hum you still not getting what I was trying to say. so lets leave it there. |
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8/11/08 6:31:16 PM#38
Originally posted by Ascension08
Empty BGs just doesen't make more sense than full ones. Also, internet is not made out of series of tubes that get clogged when more people are using it, the same thing goes for BGs.
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8/11/08 8:50:51 PM#39
Originally posted by coffee
Someone worshipping blizzard... that's kinda sad. Gaming companies becoming false gods now I see... another name for super fanboi? lol Hmm 1 more BG! WHOA! That's not gonna save the pathetic state of WoW PvP. |
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8/11/08 11:47:11 PM#40
WAR didn't invent assault style maps and nore did DAOC.....
Though I do agree atm this battleground just looks bad. ----------------------------------------
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