i heard "dude, wheres my car?" did pretty good its opening weekend at the box office to. doesnt make it a good movie. another thing aoc and "dude" have in common is they are both too awful to even be put in the bargain bin at wal-mart

Originally posted by Rebn77

Here!

Have you guys seen the latest XFire and Funcom stock numbers? Still dropping!

I logged on Bane (Which had a lower pop to begin with) and it just seemed dead. No chat in /ooc, and not one soul in Khemi.

Yes, stocks don't stop to go down again. It's at 20.00 today.

I hope they will survive those bad times though. I would hate to see Anarchy Online shutdown.

Everquest 1 & Anarchy Online are the only two mmorpgs from which I keep really good memories.

Let me tell you a couple funny insider stories regarding FC's PR and marketing.

Let's talk about screenshots. Screenshots released to the media were a source of heated debate internally, for a lot of reasons.
The first one was that Marketing had the annoying habit to ninja screenshots from the devteam that weren't really ready to be publicized, either because they showed highly experimental stuff, or because they didn't show really interesting stuff, or they showed unfinished or currently broken stuff. "Hey, the water shader is currently broken, perfect time to release screenshots of places with water!". Yeah, they did that.

We ended up doing an embargo to the marketing department regarding screenshots. We were explicitely told not to give anything to the marketing guys directly, but send them to gaute instead.

Eventually, it was decided that screenshots to be released publicly had to be done by Gaute and Didrik Tollefsen, the art director. They would set up things to make for nice screenshots. By that, I mean spawning whatever necessary, editing the environment settings (fog color, light parameters etc.) on the fly, and then taking the screenshot.
Oh, and there was a special 'high-quality" screenshot hotkey added to the game that would re-render the current frame with all quality settings cranked up to the max.
So you take screenshot of stuff that's not really looking the same as ingame, a scene that is essentially composed by a artist for the purpose of the screenshot, and with a quality that would not even run at a proper framerate. But you can still claim it's rendered ingame with a straight face.


Another interesting thing that happened once was the release of a batch of screenshots, one of which (that I can't be arsed looking up on the interwebs) included some really tall giant guy standing in between trees.
One of the programmer asked on the internal forums what was the hash code to spawn that huge guy in the game because he thought it looked cool and wanted to check it out.
Some of the designers seemed a bit confused as to whom that big guy was, actually - but assumed that someone had to know (no one knows all of the content in details in such a big project). Eventually, Erling Ellingsen, who took the screenshots, explained that he just spawned some regular pict boss or something and changed the scale using gm commands (why a marketing tard got given his own testing dimension kind of escape me).

Devs went up in arms and explained him "gj, so you released a screenshot of content that doesn't really exist in the game", and Ellingsen the retard didn't understand. "I've been able to see it in the game, so it's in the game" was his reply.

That's marketing people for you.

Originally posted by LostHawk

Originally posted by Rebn77

Here!

Have you guys seen the latest XFire and Funcom stock numbers? Still dropping!

I logged on Bane (Which had a lower pop to begin with) and it just seemed dead. No chat in /ooc, and not one soul in Khemi.

 

Yes, stocks don't stop to go down again. It's at 20.00 today.

I hope they will survive those bad times though. I would hate to see Anarchy Online shutdown.

Everquest 1 & Anarchy Online are the only two mmorpgs from which I keep really good memories.

Keeps going down. 19,80 right now.

Originally posted by jakkars

Originally posted by LostHawk

Originally posted by Rebn77

Here!

Have you guys seen the latest XFire and Funcom stock numbers? Still dropping!

I logged on Bane (Which had a lower pop to begin with) and it just seemed dead. No chat in /ooc, and not one soul in Khemi.

 

Yes, stocks don't stop to go down again. It's at 20.00 today.

I hope they will survive those bad times though. I would hate to see Anarchy Online shutdown.

Everquest 1 & Anarchy Online are the only two mmorpgs from which I keep really good memories.

 

Keeps going down. 19,80 right now.

Karma is a $#@&%.
 

Originally posted by Rebn77

Originally posted by jakkars

And join the Failcom avatar army.

 

Here!

Have you guys seen the latest XFire and Funcom stock numbers? Still dropping!

I logged on Bane (Which had a lower pop to begin with) and it just seemed dead. No chat in /ooc, and not one soul in Khemi.

And no new posts at the forums, they are dead.
 

Originally posted by MORB

Let me tell you a couple funny insider stories regarding FC's PR and marketing.

Let's talk about screenshots. Screenshots released to the media were a source of heated debate internally, for a lot of reasons.
The first one was that Marketing had the annoying habit to ninja screenshots from the devteam that weren't really ready to be publicized, either because they showed highly experimental stuff, or because they didn't show really interesting stuff, or they showed unfinished or currently broken stuff. "Hey, the water shader is currently broken, perfect time to release screenshots of places with water!". Yeah, they did that.

We ended up doing an embargo to the marketing department regarding screenshots. We were explicitely told not to give anything to the marketing guys directly, but send them to gaute instead.

Eventually, it was decided that screenshots to be released publicly had to be done by Gaute and Didrik Tollefsen, the art director. They would set up things to make for nice screenshots. By that, I mean spawning whatever necessary, editing the environment settings (fog color, light parameters etc.) on the fly, and then taking the screenshot.
Oh, and there was a special 'high-quality" screenshot hotkey added to the game that would re-render the current frame with all quality settings cranked up to the max.
So you take screenshot of stuff that's not really looking the same as ingame, a scene that is essentially composed by a artist for the purpose of the screenshot, and with a quality that would not even run at a proper framerate. But you can still claim it's rendered ingame with a straight face.


Another interesting thing that happened once was the release of a batch of screenshots, one of which (that I can't be arsed looking up on the interwebs) included some really tall giant guy standing in between trees.
One of the programmer asked on the internal forums what was the hash code to spawn that huge guy in the game because he thought it looked cool and wanted to check it out.
Some of the designers seemed a bit confused as to whom that big guy was, actually - but assumed that someone had to know (no one knows all of the content in details in such a big project). Eventually, Erling Ellingsen, who took the screenshots, explained that he just spawned some regular pict boss or something and changed the scale using gm commands (why a marketing tard got given his own testing dimension kind of escape me).

Devs went up in arms and explained him "gj, so you released a screenshot of content that doesn't really exist in the game", and Ellingsen the retard didn't understand. "I've been able to see it in the game, so it's in the game" was his reply.

That's marketing people for you.

Is this hostility between devs and marketing why Funcom appears to be sabotaging itself with patches that break the game more and more and a total lack of content?

Originally posted by Arthousesig

Originally posted by MORB

Let me tell you a couple funny insider stories regarding FC's PR and marketing.

Let's talk about screenshots. Screenshots released to the media were a source of heated debate internally, for a lot of reasons.
The first one was that Marketing had the annoying habit to ninja screenshots from the devteam that weren't really ready to be publicized, either because they showed highly experimental stuff, or because they didn't show really interesting stuff, or they showed unfinished or currently broken stuff. "Hey, the water shader is currently broken, perfect time to release screenshots of places with water!". Yeah, they did that.

We ended up doing an embargo to the marketing department regarding screenshots. We were explicitely told not to give anything to the marketing guys directly, but send them to gaute instead.

Eventually, it was decided that screenshots to be released publicly had to be done by Gaute and Didrik Tollefsen, the art director. They would set up things to make for nice screenshots. By that, I mean spawning whatever necessary, editing the environment settings (fog color, light parameters etc.) on the fly, and then taking the screenshot.
Oh, and there was a special 'high-quality" screenshot hotkey added to the game that would re-render the current frame with all quality settings cranked up to the max.
So you take screenshot of stuff that's not really looking the same as ingame, a scene that is essentially composed by a artist for the purpose of the screenshot, and with a quality that would not even run at a proper framerate. But you can still claim it's rendered ingame with a straight face.


Another interesting thing that happened once was the release of a batch of screenshots, one of which (that I can't be arsed looking up on the interwebs) included some really tall giant guy standing in between trees.
One of the programmer asked on the internal forums what was the hash code to spawn that huge guy in the game because he thought it looked cool and wanted to check it out.
Some of the designers seemed a bit confused as to whom that big guy was, actually - but assumed that someone had to know (no one knows all of the content in details in such a big project). Eventually, Erling Ellingsen, who took the screenshots, explained that he just spawned some regular pict boss or something and changed the scale using gm commands (why a marketing tard got given his own testing dimension kind of escape me).

Devs went up in arms and explained him "gj, so you released a screenshot of content that doesn't really exist in the game", and Ellingsen the retard didn't understand. "I've been able to see it in the game, so it's in the game" was his reply.

That's marketing people for you.

 

Is this hostility between devs and marketing why Funcom appears to be sabotaging itself with patches that break the game more and more and a total lack of content?

No, unfortunately, after reading this post it's a sad reality happening within every company. But in the end it's about the Game Director's grip on his own personel to release stuff to the public that's actually viable.

But as we all know Gaute by now, we all already have an idea how things run at Funcom HQ.

If his post is real, then now I am getting an insta DeJaVu with Sigil and their project Vanguard: Saga of Heroes.  And that DeJaVu isn't a good one. It's a signal of a dying company.

As it seems their own personel starts to get upset and getting enough of all the mess happening. And frankly, seeing all Funcom's ways of Bussiness practicing the last months and how they treat their customers. I would have quit that company by long now.

But that's just me, who would never want to work for a company that throws all forms of morale and ethics out of the window.

Because in the end it's something that will also hurt your own CV.

The whole EU forum is now in revolt, it's pretty much a riot asking for answers:

		The silence is getting old ( 1 2 3 ... Last Page) Reapergrim	Today 13:12 by Reapergrim	61	1,646
		Message to FunCom ( 1 2) 1gnarus	Today 13:11 by Romanas	10	72
		With all this nice looking grpahics where is the breathtaking views? ( 1 2 3) Myri	Today 13:10 by Kahuna	27	1,203
		I am getting upset now FC ( 1 2 3) Daddydrunk	Today 13:10 by Bamboozle86	29	686
		Are you satisfied with AoC? ( 1 2 3 ... Last Page) Minoan	Today 13:08 by Elrieth	66	1,369
		Swords against soldiers vs casters Steinolf	Today 13:08 by Sanquin	6	52
		Has the community given up on FC? (

Still no answer from Funcom on anything

Total silence XD

I palyed a game for a month or so and in all this thread there are some things I completly agree Funcom missed the point of a game that could be so big yet u got Necromancer and 15 minnions that gonna stand around u while gettin` hammered or class that pwn every thing in 2 shots In my opinion PVP in AOC is miised the point cause MMO`s  should make you team up with some1 and do some instancing do quests or I dont know just  chat but wtf do u need to team up with any1 in AOC so that u should enter a instance and other party kills u on sight or just a thing in Tortage that atm u step onto White Sands isle u get pwned without a reason or some sense so ye I should w8 till my class get a l8 bloom but there is no end game no point  to do some instance and then saying :"we almost  did it  we should try it again",once u xpirience end game in AOC u cancel a subscription at least  thazmy case here siees are so lame that if they could wrealy tried they couldnt get any worse I`ve seen a lot of grinding xcuses for an MMO but to put 20lvl diference in a same territory .... ye sure it will all be fixed in a glorious patches that fix a bug when U turn invisible and stay like that till new patch pffft

U guys need to find another game to fight against in case aoc dies. It will be hard but im sure ill find you spamming new threads on another game's forum having a new fail avatar. GOOD JOB!

Originally posted by thanoskkk

U guys need to find another game to fight against in case aoc dies. It will be hard but im sure ill find you spamming new threads on another game's forum having a new fail avatar. GOOD JOB!

lol so many people with the "failcom" avatars is cute .... its kinda like they are in a little club. TBH i always keep 1-2 games ready to play if one falls through. But i guess for these guys the sky is falling and the only game they play is the "flame FC in every forum" game. I hope these guys learn that they shouldnt follow the hype of a game and put too much faith/hope into one. Lol im interested to see what WAR is gonna do now, i mean if that falls through as well, im sure we will see "FailMythic" avatars everywhere

Originally posted by tvalentine

Originally posted by thanoskkk

U guys need to find another game to fight against in case aoc dies. It will be hard but im sure ill find you spamming new threads on another game's forum having a new fail avatar. GOOD JOB!

 

lol so many people with the "failcom" avatars is cute .... its kinda like they are in a little club. TBH i always keep 1-2 games ready to play if one falls through. But i guess for these guys the sky is falling and the only game they play is the "flame FC in every forum" game. I hope these guys learn that they shouldnt follow the hype of a game and put too much faith/hope into one. Lol im interested to see what WAR is gonna do now, i mean if that falls through as well, im sure we will see "FailMythic" avatars everywhere

"Mythic Fail" sounds better I think. I believe WAR will be good though.

Mythic will deliver...

Anywho...I was planning on waiting til this game hit the 360...seems like that is what it was built for...but after all, I think I will just spend that money at the bar....

Originally posted by Die_Scream

Originally posted by tvalentine

Originally posted by thanoskkk

U guys need to find another game to fight against in case aoc dies. It will be hard but im sure ill find you spamming new threads on another game's forum having a new fail avatar. GOOD JOB!

 

lol so many people with the "failcom" avatars is cute .... its kinda like they are in a little club. TBH i always keep 1-2 games ready to play if one falls through. But i guess for these guys the sky is falling and the only game they play is the "flame FC in every forum" game. I hope these guys learn that they shouldnt follow the hype of a game and put too much faith/hope into one. Lol im interested to see what WAR is gonna do now, i mean if that falls through as well, im sure we will see "FailMythic" avatars everywhere

 

"Mythic Fail" sounds better I think. I believe WAR will be good though.

heh i remember alot of people saying the same about AOC ...... now they are sitting in these forums all day with "Failcom" avatars .....

Originally posted by thanoskkk

U guys need to find another game to fight against in case aoc dies. It will be hard but im sure ill find you spamming new threads on another game's forum having a new fail avatar. GOOD JOB!

Hehe I palyed most of the MMOs out  there sure all games got a  rough start and are improved constantly but here thaz not the case I hawe  wrealy enjoied most of the MMO`s I`ve played but in those MMO`s u had some purpose with your gaming either way a story to complete or grind your way through final end game content in AOC u got pvp out of  focus if U wanna good pvp giwe players something that they should acomplish while they pwn each other in AOC u just pwn any1 that comes near u +pvp xprience doesent work yet(or at least didnt when I canceled a subscription 2 weaks back),not  to mention class features that your feat tree doesent work or that female avatars hit 20% slower than male or that 15 minnions wotnt  atak a mob that hammers u and will just  stand by and watch,  list is huge wrealy Funcom deserves ewerything that gonna happen to them for this lame xcuse of an MMO.I wrealy was thrilled while game was released but after a 14 days u just  c that simply it not finished end game is ....there is no end game just bugged instances and area in which u lvl with 20 lvls higher than u and in such lame xcuse for pvp u wrealy think that they are not gonna camp u and kill u just  for fun(theyres ofc).

Originally posted by tvalentine

Originally posted by Die_Scream

Originally posted by tvalentine

Originally posted by thanoskkk

U guys need to find another game to fight against in case aoc dies. It will be hard but im sure ill find you spamming new threads on another game's forum having a new fail avatar. GOOD JOB!

 

lol so many people with the "failcom" avatars is cute .... its kinda like they are in a little club. TBH i always keep 1-2 games ready to play if one falls through. But i guess for these guys the sky is falling and the only game they play is the "flame FC in every forum" game. I hope these guys learn that they shouldnt follow the hype of a game and put too much faith/hope into one. Lol im interested to see what WAR is gonna do now, i mean if that falls through as well, im sure we will see "FailMythic" avatars everywhere

 

"Mythic Fail" sounds better I think. I believe WAR will be good though.

 

heh i remember alot of people saying the same about AOC ...... now they are sitting in these forums all day with "Failcom" avatars .....

Possibly the shall we say, less than stellar release of AoC will give the suits at the WAR office incentive to let the devs do things correctly after release. That's where FC went wrong, the game was unfinished, sure. The problem is FC completely bungled every aspect of the post launch.

Even if  WAR is weak at release, I'm willing to bet the devs will at least acknowledge a problem, maybe even fix it! If they do, then already AOCWAR.

Originally posted by IKShadow

Well the game must be very popular otherwise why all this hate posts over and over again.
If you wanna know when game is truly dead is once you wont see almost any updates in this forums.

Atm it seems Age of Conan are one of the most popular forums on MMORPG.COM so troll on and promote the game.

I like this post. I mean it makes sense. You can say the game is dead when people stop caring and complaining.

If you didn't like the game I doubt it was the first time you've shelled out $50 for something that you didn't like so deal with it or leave...it's simple.

The absolute worst thing you could do to Funcom is quit the game. I've not seen many leave the server I'm on.

As a matter of fact ALL of the people I started playing with are still enjoying the game. Of course its a PVP server.

The fact remains I see alot of negative posts the same as everyone else but these aren't helping the game at all...Nobody is being productive.

Funcom seems dead set on catering to the whiners on the forums and then they whine when the change is made.

I say "stop whining" dont bother posting about quitting the game when we honestly don't care.

Funcom doesn't care.

Your guildees don't care.

I don't care.

Just leave...LOL..maybe I'll get a free game based on ads if you all do :)

Originally posted by Die_Scream

Even if  WAR is weak at release, I'm willing to bet the devs will at least acknowledge a problem, maybe even fix it! If they do, then already AOCWAR.

 

i am a WAR beta tester ( an elder , i get to test end game content ) and i can tell you right now . WAR will not have many problems on release day .  the game is in really good shape and in all honesty could have been released before i even got into beta !  end game content ... there is a lot of it ! so much that us elders have our own server specifically to test  the end game !  some of the stuff i get to see and test the guild beta players and general public don't even know about .

i know i sound like a total fanboi !!! i hate that but WAR is a solid game . 1 more week until the NDA is lifted . i will tell all about  WAR both good and bad .

anyway sorry to hijack this thread. :

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Originally posted by Jasz

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Originally posted by IKShadow

Well the game must be very popular otherwise why all this hate posts over and over again.
If you wanna know when game is truly dead is once you wont see almost any updates in this forums.

Atm it seems Age of Conan are one of the most popular forums on MMORPG.COM so troll on and promote the game.

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I like this post. I mean it makes sense. You can say the game is dead when people stop caring and complaining.

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Then SWG must be doing wonderfully...

The fact is that it is this kind of Fanboi ignorance that we are seeing less and less of, as people start to wake up to the fact that the game isn't getting better, it just keeps getting worse.