Originally posted by spookytooth

Originally posted by Urtok

Originally posted by Hoplites

Originally posted by spookytooth

Originally posted by DapperBantam

...because then everyone would have been to spread out and not focused together on accomplishing one goal.

 

this is what I dont understand. When they talk about removing cities adding focus to the RvR. It doesnt. You still have 3 seperate campeigns being fought for. The players are still spread out. Players will still have no direction as to which of the 3 campeigns they should be fighting for at any given time. Removing cities focuses nothing. This is just a bit of twisted, unjustified rationale they through in while they were brainstorming reasons that removing cities may be a good thing for the game. It just doesnt stand up to logic.

 

 

Yeah I thought about it a bit and you still end up not being "focused" like everyone is claiming afterall with how it was explained in the podcast.

Only way to find out how this works is to play it.

 

so you basicly can not see that having ONE city seige to focus on is not as focus as have THREE?!?!?!  Old way each racial pairing does their own city seiging and could care less about the other two cities.  But NOW the entire realm is focus on ONE city objective, all three races working together for the advancement of the entire realm.  But, no you are right thats not focus enough.

There is no "one city objective", there is 3 objectives. Three campeigns to be fought for. The goal at th end is incidental. You will get there no matter what. But having your realms forces spread across 3 campeigns still doesnt sound very focused to me.

 

Then you are willfully blind or have no understanding of the city seige game.

Originally posted by spookytooth

Originally posted by Urtok

Originally posted by Hoplites

Originally posted by spookytooth

Originally posted by DapperBantam

...because then everyone would have been to spread out and not focused together on accomplishing one goal.

 

this is what I dont understand. When they talk about removing cities adding focus to the RvR. It doesnt. You still have 3 seperate campeigns being fought for. The players are still spread out. Players will still have no direction as to which of the 3 campeigns they should be fighting for at any given time. Removing cities focuses nothing. This is just a bit of twisted, unjustified rationale they through in while they were brainstorming reasons that removing cities may be a good thing for the game. It just doesnt stand up to logic.

 

 

Yeah I thought about it a bit and you still end up not being "focused" like everyone is claiming afterall with how it was explained in the podcast.

Only way to find out how this works is to play it.

 

so you basicly can not see that having ONE city seige to focus on is not as focus as have THREE?!?!?!  Old way each racial pairing does their own city seiging and could care less about the other two cities.  But NOW the entire realm is focus on ONE city objective, all three races working together for the advancement of the entire realm.  But, no you are right thats not focus enough.

There is no "one city objective", there is 3 objectives. Three campeigns to be fought for. The goal at th end is incidental. You will get there no matter what. But having your realms forces spread across 3 campeigns still doesnt sound very focused to me.

 

makes for a little strategy.

Urtok I can only laugh at that. Thanks for the banter and goodluck with your newer more "focused" RvR.

goodnight yall

I love how altdorf is not done yet, but really is :D

like altdorf in warhammer online is only like I don't know .. 1/5 of what the altdorf size is really is .. you know..

when all city's are in and right.. mythic will make altdorf so much bigger...

that right now you looking at in warhammer online altdorf is only 1 section of it.!!!!

can't wait for the others !!

Originally posted by Dreawing

I love how altdorf is not done yet, but really is :D

like altdorf in warhammer online is only like I don't know .. 1/5 of what the altdorf size is really is .. you know..

when all city's are in and right.. mythic will make altdorf so much bigger...

that right now you looking at in warhammer online altdorf is only 1 section of it.!!!!

can't wait for the others !!

I'm sorry but i could not understand what you just said.

If you are referring to Altdorf not being finished you must be in CB

if your in CB your breaking the NDA. >.<

its a lose, lose situation

like in the game it's finished, but when you look at the warhammer lore with altdorf all put in.. it' s huge

mythic has tons of more content for altdorf like

- all of the schools of magic

- 1 section of the /5 is in

 because altdorf is on a marsh /river and stands on 5 islands and they only have altdorf on 1 of those islands in the actual game..

and in the video of altdorf you can see more land across the river in the port area of altdorf.. and you can't get to it yet

Originally posted by Urtok

Originally posted by Hoplites

Originally posted by spookytooth

Originally posted by DapperBantam

...because then everyone would have been to spread out and not focused together on accomplishing one goal.

 

this is what I dont understand. When they talk about removing cities adding focus to the RvR. It doesnt. You still have 3 seperate campeigns being fought for. The players are still spread out. Players will still have no direction as to which of the 3 campeigns they should be fighting for at any given time. Removing cities focuses nothing. This is just a bit of twisted, unjustified rationale they through in while they were brainstorming reasons that removing cities may be a good thing for the game. It just doesnt stand up to logic.

 

 

Yeah I thought about it a bit and you still end up not being "focused" like everyone is claiming afterall with how it was explained in the podcast.

Only way to find out how this works is to play it.

 

wow, just wow.  nothing Mythic does is good enough for you guys is it.

first you complain "waaaaa we only have one battle ground to play in" to "waaaaaa it's not focus enough waaaaaaa.

so you basicly can not see that having ONE city seige to focus on is not as focus as have THREE?!?!?!  Old way each racial pairing does their own city seiging and could care less about the other two cities.  But NOW the entire realm is focus on ONE city objective, all three races working together for the advancement of the entire realm.  But, no you are right thats not focus enough.

I hope city cut lementers roll destruction and chaos and just "focus" all your effort in the Empire/Chaos battlefront while we order roll through the Dark Elf and Greenskins fronts and sack your city while you are "focus" you efforts in defending your tier 4 keeps.

This dead horse smells and I am sick and tired of it.

If you take issue with these observations then you may need to watch the recent podcast and how it was conveyed how it would work .

hmm i see,

expansions in the making?

HELLL YEA!!!!!!

Altdorf will be the biggest city in the mmorpg world once it's all made in expansion and shiz

Put it this way if they had announced the game as having just the 2 large cities as the end game focus, way at the start you would of been happy and eager for the game.

But because you had followed the progress of Beta and experienced all the changes as they happened you have become attached to a certain idea which, at the end of the day, didn't work out.

The majority of players of WAR over it's lifespan may never know of what 'could of been', and will only know the game as it is presented to them at release and post-release.  They won't care of what may of been planned for the game back in beta.

Basically try to free your mind of the multitude of possiblities for the game, and concentrate on the final outcome.  It's hard but try to judge the game as if you had never known about the different cities.

  I would say any reasonable person would say that the game as it will be released sounds great, and a game that I would of still been happy to pre-order and be excited about.  That is the real test.

Originally posted by BRYANBARTLEY

hmm i see,

expansions in the making?

This could be good news or bad news based on your expectations.

well i expect alot of the first content addins to be downloaded like the books in LOTRO,

if it comes to an expansion i would want something big.

a new race or two,

maybe  more of the map opened up

God stop with all the bait and switch bullcrap. If you dont like the changes, dont buy/play the game. You will not be missed and Mythic will not care. You know you have that option dont you? Its not like you have to play every single MMO that hits the market.

Do I wish the other cities where there? Of course I do. Do I wish the other classes where there? Of course I do. But no amount of whining and complaining is going to change the fact that they arent there. Either decide your going to play the game anyway or not. Stop beating a dead horse.

Originally posted by xenogias

God stop with all the bait and switch bullcrap. If you dont like the changes, dont buy/play the game. You will not be missed and Mythic will not care. You know you have that option dont you? Its not like you have to play every single MMO that hits the market.

Do I wish the other cities where there? Of course I do. Do I wish the other classes where there? Of course I do. But no amount of whining and complaining is going to change the fact that they arent there. Either decide your going to play the game anyway or not. Stop beating a dead horse.

Until Mythic comes out and says the remaining cities and classes will not be implimented that horse will take a pounding.

Originally posted by Dreawing

like in the game it's finished, but when you look at the warhammer lore with altdorf all put in.. it' s huge

mythic has tons of more content for altdorf like

- all of the schools of magic

- 1 section of the /5 is in

 because altdorf is on a marsh /river and stands on 5 islands and they only have altdorf on 1 of those islands in the actual game..

and in the video of altdorf you can see more land across the river in the port area of altdorf.. and you can't get to it yet

True, True people need to remember from a lore standpoint they could make Altdorf  a stand alone game by its self. They have 25 years of IP to draw on and 7 more army races to build from, at this point the other 4 captials can be spread out over the next year as far as I am concerned imho, as long as they keep the content fresha and on a aregular schedule.

Originally posted by cirdane

I just watched the latest POD cast  and I find it dishartening. the developer showing the changes made them sound much more permante than MJ did.

the way he spoke it sound s like the other 4 capital cities are history never to return. All content has been moved to the the two remaining cities.

I originaly was all for the idea of the cuts they made but now I have to say it is sounding like a bait and switch. Do they have any intention of putting in the other 4 cities? 

he spoke about people preferring to protect certian cities and said they didn't want that. Who in the hell are they to tell me what I want to do I'm the paying customer.

I was all for holding out content to get it right. I am not for changing the basic of the game with a lame ppromise to "add it later at some point maybe if the moons full"

mythic has bad habit of not carrying through on promised fixs (hey any mids out there still waiting on the mid love patch?)

I'd like to thank the developer for talking strait and showing me that these are permant CHANGES and not just delayed contentfixes or work arounds.

I personally think seeing cities defended by thier own races with 10% or 15% allies from other races was going to be very unique.

I may still play depending on reports from beta but  think  mythic    may be pulling a fast on with it's maybe later promises.

 

What do you think?

 

 

The best post I have seen on this was one where WoW launched with 3 capital cities, and what, 8 classes?

They warned you 2 1/2 months before launch. This isn't a bait and switch, if you want that, go play AoC, DnL, or Vanguard. Otherwise, stop being suck a spoiled troll.

The Only problem is that there are more Destruction races possible than Order,

Bretonnia pretty much = humans

and we don't need any more elves >.<

Originally posted by dalevi11

Originally posted by cirdane

I just watched the latest POD cast  and I find it dishartening. the developer showing the changes made them sound much more permante than MJ did.

the way he spoke it sound s like the other 4 capital cities are history never to return. All content has been moved to the the two remaining cities.

I originaly was all for the idea of the cuts they made but now I have to say it is sounding like a bait and switch. Do they have any intention of putting in the other 4 cities? 

he spoke about people preferring to protect certian cities and said they didn't want that. Who in the hell are they to tell me what I want to do I'm the paying customer.

I was all for holding out content to get it right. I am not for changing the basic of the game with a lame ppromise to "add it later at some point maybe if the moons full"

mythic has bad habit of not carrying through on promised fixs (hey any mids out there still waiting on the mid love patch?)

I'd like to thank the developer for talking strait and showing me that these are permant CHANGES and not just delayed contentfixes or work arounds.

I personally think seeing cities defended by thier own races with 10% or 15% allies from other races was going to be very unique.

I may still play depending on reports from beta but  think  mythic    may be pulling a fast on with it's maybe later promises.

 

What do you think?

 

 

 

The best post I have seen on this was one where WoW launched with 3 capital cities, and what, 8 classes?

They warned you 2 1/2 months before launch. This isn't a bait and switch, if you want that, go play AoC, DnL, or Vanguard. Otherwise, stop being suck a spoiled troll.

WoW is primarily a PVE game so I am not sure it is a good idea to draw parallels from there.

Lizardmen, Vampires, and Tomb Kings as a 3rd faction xD

would make absolutly no sense lore wise

nor would it fit into the RvR mechanic....

unless they just let those three exist on their own, and terrorize both the Order and Destruction

Originally posted by cirdane

I just watched the latest POD cast  and I find it dishartening. the developer showing the changes made them sound much more permante than MJ did.

the way he spoke it sound s like the other 4 capital cities are history never to return. All content has been moved to the the two remaining cities.

I originaly was all for the idea of the cuts they made but now I have to say it is sounding like a bait and switch. Do they have any intention of putting in the other 4 cities? 

he spoke about people preferring to protect certian cities and said they didn't want that. Who in the hell are they to tell me what I want to do I'm the paying customer.

I was all for holding out content to get it right. I am not for changing the basic of the game with a lame ppromise to "add it later at some point maybe if the moons full"

mythic has bad habit of not carrying through on promised fixs (hey any mids out there still waiting on the mid love patch?)

I'd like to thank the developer for talking strait and showing me that these are permant CHANGES and not just delayed contentfixes or work arounds.

I personally think seeing cities defended by thier own races with 10% or 15% allies from other races was going to be very unique.

I may still play depending on reports from beta but  think  mythic    may be pulling a fast on with it's maybe later promises.

 

What do you think?

 

 

LOL. How can they be pulling a fast one? They are leaving the option open to either add them later or not. They have not promiced anything. Sorry but "maybe later" doesnt promice a damn thing and to think so isnt verry bright on anyones part.