Originally posted by Brezjnev

Originally posted by Trogg13

i agree those numbers are a bit unrealistic, especially as the percentages reported in your subject add to 125%...

 

DF devs have said they plan to start with a small number of servers and grow from there, which is IMO the smart way to go. if done well, and not too hardcore, i could see DF getting 250K subscribers over a year or 2.

 

DF fans may be optimistic, but DF trolls are flat-out stupid.

 

60% of the official community polled think Darkfall will have over 150,000 subscribers, 40% think over 250,000 and 25% think it will be over 750,000.

 

If 25% think it'll be over 750k, then those 25% think it will also be over 250k, added up with those that think it will be between 250k and 750k that makes ~40% who think it will be over 250k. The one who is wrong here is you, not the OP: Think twice before you go around calling other people stupid, certainly if you have such bad math skills.

I was just about to post the same thing, well said.

In regards to the polled subscription numbers themselves, I agree with the sentiment here that they are extremely unrealistic. If DF manages to have close to 100,000 subs 12 months after launch it will have 'hit it out of the park' so to speak.

750,000 is rediculous tbh

4 months before a supposed European launch and they have yet to prove that a game even EXISTS and idiots are speculating about it having 250,000 players

 LOL

i can see 50-250k  depending

Originally posted by Xxeon

i can see 50-250k  depending

I bet someone said that about Shadowbane and Dark and Light too.

In fact I can almost gurantee they did.

It's going to be funny as hell to see all these tools who are waiting for this overhyped turd to launch get slapped in the face with reality and find out what they've been playing in their heads the last 7 years is not there

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Originally posted by Polarization
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=61716

Is this delusional, wishful thinking or just extreme optimism, with expectations so unrealistically high about Darkfalls subscription numbers let alone its features, content and game play, how can the developers possibility deliver.
Only 10% of the community actually have a somewhat realistic expectation of around 50,000 for such a niche title with such limited market appeal which apparently might even only be distributed in Europe alone for launch.
I want this game to launch this year and be everything the developers have promised it will be, but even if it does and it’s a relative success, to think it would have over 150,000 subscribers let alone over 250,00 or even 750,000 is patently ridiculous for anyone with even a general knowledge of the industry.
This sort of thing really demonstrates the mentality of the average Darkfall supporter in my opinion, and probably helps to explain some of the behavior exhibited on this forum as well as many others.

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i think its delusional to think it will release this year...or possibly ever...

I think that this game will be boring!! And that no1 will play it

Originally posted by erawropav

Originally posted by Xxeon

i can see 50-250k  depending

 

I bet someone said that about Shadowbane and Dark and Light too.

In fact I can almost gurantee they did.

It's going to be funny as hell to see all these tools who are waiting for this overhyped turd to launch get slapped in the face with reality and find out what they've been playing in their heads the last 7 years is not there

to bad i didnt i now them games were going to be fail. your making a fool out of your self i would back off before you get laughed off these forums in a few months

Why do some people just flat out want games to fail?  Honestly the trolls on this forum are just the worse and are honestly retarded.  If Darkfall releases with all it promises or even with half of what it promises(not saying that it will) it will be an extremely successful game.  Whether it will reach 750k or not it will easily reach 150k and will not be stuck at 10k like some people are saying.  I understand that sandbox mmos and hardcore pvp mmos are a niche market but currently that market is increasing out of boredom from the current games out there and imho any sandbox mmo that comes out will do very well right now if it manages to remain stable after launch.  Again, I am not sure if Darkfall will release or not but if it does it is much more likely for it to reach 100k than for it to stay at 10k.

Agree.

Whats wrong with some optimistic people? We sure have enough of the opposite in the world. Let a few long for a MMO. There is bigger things to care about.

Uwe Boll for example!

They hate on Darkfall because Darkfall already crushed their hopes and dreams years ago.  They want to play it but they can't hope for it because they are afraid of being let down again.   I personally would love to play the game, but won't get my hopes up until some actual solid info comes out.

My guess: 25-75.000 subs first months.

As someone on that forum say: "If it have no much bugs and is smooth playable it will get more subs than EVE soon or later". Thats just EvE like game in fantasy world and if you add that 80% of MMO players prefer fantasy genre for shure sandbox fantasy MMO can get more subs than EVE.

Originally posted by Cotillion99

They hate on Darkfall because Darkfall already crushed their hopes and dreams years ago.  They want to play it but they can't hope for it because they are afraid of being let down again.   I personally would love to play the game, but won't get my hopes up until some actual solid info comes out.

true but why dont they just leave the fans alone then?

its just twisted man

And everyone thinks it will never come out.

thank you for linking my poll :D

Anyway i belive if we see day that Darkfall get released number of players would be somewhere arround 250 000.

Since its too hardcore game for carebears i think it wont hurt major population of WoW/AOC/WAR players but it will fill in gap for people who want something more hardcore.

numbers in poll doesnt mean anything because some of visitors of that forum arent fans they are fanatics.

Originally posted by hakubylicks

Originally posted by Isane

With the features defined here the game will easily acheive 150k to 250k if it releases

 

Therein lyes the problem.

It WON"T have those features.

Just a well coded/designed  game most features are not new. All they have to do is remove the stock standard lame MMO features that currently take the game out of game and they will have a winner.

Lets see Skill Based/ Alignment a bit of faction and a world so large if you don't want to PvP you can just wander. All have been seen before so it's down to the coding and they have designed as they see it to release in a framework that can support the features.

It has always been the concept that interests me ... I currently find that MUDs are more fun than the current crop of MMO so some of us can give or take the genre in it's current state. (Some can't and tend to be twisted Haters but each to their own)

Challenging games exists elsewhere at the moment so they can take all the time they wan't to perfect their dream. And if they don't someone else will...

Originally posted by EndDream

If DF is feature complete.. and is everything they say.. I believe it will eventually max out at about 250,000. It is a niche game for sure.. but the niche is bigger than some may think

I think the niche is far less than some think..Just take a look at the other games that have tried the same setup - Shadowbane is pretty much dead , Archlord is pretty much dead , It almost killed UO ect..

Hardly anyone likes to see their hard work poof into thin air or be ganked continuously while trying to enjoy themselves.

If Darkfall took all the players from UO ( not likely since that is a PvE game now ) , Shadowbane and Archlord they still would not even be at 100k and maybe not even 50k.

Anywhere from 10-50k players would be believable but anything higher is just delusional thinking.

Originally posted by Trogg13

Originally posted by hakubylicks

Gurantee you 100% that Darkfall is no where even remotely near the quality Archlord is.

 

For once i agree with you, Darkfall is 100x better.

Have you played Darkfall or even seen it in action? No? Then such a claim holds no weight... Like how Dark & Light was going to be the best thing ever? I see the same things happening with Darkfall as I did with D&L.

Originally posted by SlyLoK

Originally posted by EndDream

If DF is feature complete.. and is everything they say.. I believe it will eventually max out at about 250,000. It is a niche game for sure.. but the niche is bigger than some may think

 

I think the niche is far less than some think..Just take a look at the other games that have tried the same setup - Shadowbane is pretty much dead , Archlord is pretty much dead , It almost killed UO ect..

Hardly anyone likes to see their hard work poof into thin air or be ganked continuously while trying to enjoy themselves.

If Darkfall took all the players from UO ( not likely since that is a PvE game now ) , Shadowbane and Archlord they still would not even be at 100k and maybe not even 50k.

Anywhere from 10-50k players would be believable but anything higher is just delusional thinking.

Still not convinced taht people will be that easy to kill unless they are looking for a fight... That has to be seen and will only happen when beta comes or the game releases. The perceived hard work in current MMOs at the moment isn't hard !!! It is just a breeze.

Originally posted by SlyLoK

Originally posted by EndDream

If DF is feature complete.. and is everything they say.. I believe it will eventually max out at about 250,000. It is a niche game for sure.. but the niche is bigger than some may think

 

I think the niche is far less than some think..Just take a look at the other games that have tried the same setup - Shadowbane is pretty much dead , Archlord is pretty much dead , It almost killed UO ect..

Hardly anyone likes to see their hard work poof into thin air or be ganked continuously while trying to enjoy themselves.

If Darkfall took all the players from UO ( not likely since that is a PvE game now ) , Shadowbane and Archlord they still would not even be at 100k and maybe not even 50k.

Anywhere from 10-50k players would be believable but anything higher is just delusional thinking.

eve you can lose laot more and it has 250k subs

lets see Uo is old

Shadowbane is just wtf

archlord WTh i heard that was pretty lame too