Item malls in P2P's? lawl...

Originally posted by Anofalye

 

- You have 3 respec which are given throught a quest mission at level 24, 34 and 44...characters which are lower level or player that don't want to do the mission miss this one.

- There is 1 free respec given from time to time, especially when a new expansion is live...many player mess up this respec, and you can't stack these, so it is a use or waste respec.

- Veterans rewards give you a few free respec.

You can also find respec recipes or buy them at the consignment store/black market (AH)

They are around 30 mil inf.

This game is slowly turning into a joke. First they started charging for emotes then renames and now respecs!? Don't like your toons name? Reroll! Picked the wrong powers? Run a respec trial! Want to pay 10 bucks for emotes? You are a fucking idiot!

NCsoft is going to run this game into the ground with these microtransactions and their constant nerfs.

I Am just glad that Cryptic Studios got rid of them.

Originally posted by VuDu_DawL

 

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Originally posted by noxdraconis
In a sense there has been purchasable respecs for while, in that you could always buy the necessary influence from some third party to acquire a respec recipe at the market. If this means taking a bit of business away from the influence peddlers, then I am all for it. I just hope they use the extra cash to do something useful, like doing a complete overhaul of the game engine.

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I can't agree more about taking business from the influence spammers, er, peddlers.

I cannot understand the whining. PLAYERS asked for this (just as they have asked for special costumes for which we are willing to pay). I have said MANY times that I would be willing to pay to get more slots on a server. NC Soft (not Ubisoft, rofl) is just answering a demand from their players. This answer does not affect ANYONE that does want it. If you don't want to pay for a respec, you STILL have all the FORMER options to obtain one (including sinking to the pits of moral turpitude by giving business to the influence peddlers, if that is what you choose to do).

Other people having an "OPTION" to buy a respec (or a character slot, or a special costume pack) does not affect anyone but those who wish to purchase it. Whining about this is akin to whining because there are Lexus cars on the market but I can't afford one so NO ONE should be able to buy one... please.

Answering a demand with a supply is the business model of any successful company. There are MANY things I would pay to add to my game. I'd pay for more enhancement slots on my Warshade. I'd pay for a real 'formal' (long) dress. I'd pay for the ability to swap characters between accounts. Yes, I can afford it. I understand there are some who can't. I don't know what to tell them, but they don't have the right to limit what is available to those who can afford it. Want and need and the ability to purchase creates a market. How can you fault a business for utilizing that market.

You know, no MMO 'owes' us a say in how they run things. You can't please every customer. But one thing I have noticed since Cryptic is out of the picture is a serious effort to give players things they have been asking for, for years. I think NC Soft is moving in a positive direction. They have my vote of confidence, in the form of a few subscription fees.

For those who don't like it? All I can say is, you have the right to take your subscription to any other game.

LOL Im with you VuDu_DawL Its allways silly when they Complain about things like this... Its like in Vanguard when they gave us the No XP skill... Who the heck would Complain that I Get the option to kill things And not gain Xp??? But the Did and still are..
 

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Originally posted by TwwIX
This game is slowly turning into a joke. First they started charging for emotes then renames and now respecs!? Don't like your toons name? Reroll! Picked the wrong powers? Run a respec trial! Want to pay 10 bucks for emotes? You are a fucking idiot!
NCsoft is going to run this game into the ground with these microtransactions and their constant nerfs.
I Am just glad that Cryptic Studios got rid of them.

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Why is giving players what they have been ASKING for is a joke? I have seen many other games that were far less responsive to their player base.

And FYI, no one paid ten bucks for emotes. The ten bucks was for the costume set, which included some emotes. Go to any 3D modeling program and see what two separate outfits (tux and bridal dress) would cost. In addition to those outfits, you also got special textures for other costumes they gave EVERYONE for free (Hearts, Angelic). I would have gladly paid the ten bucks even if the emotes weren't included. It's less than I spent on one gown for my 3D characters. And I had to PAY for my wings at the DAZ store. CoH gave them to me for free, just for being a loyal customer.

Getting rid of Cryptic was the best thing NC Soft could have done for the game. It has improved 200% since then. Look at all they've GIVEN to the players, FOR FREE. The debt wipe and prestige grant. Upping the number of members for Supergroups. Upping the number of global channels you can belong to. Tons more costumes. Lots of touch-ups to the scenery. A complete remodel of the Hollows. Access to both games for those who owned only one side or the other FOR FREE. More content. And even more content. Many of these are things that players suggested or asked for. It seems NC Soft is willing to listen to its players, and that can't be a bad thing.

Every issue is free. No one asks you to spend one dime more than the regular subscription to play this game if you don't want *the extras*. Why whine about things that others WANT to buy? It is merely giving others who are WILLING to spend the money the option to do so. Your character isn't going to change one bit if you don't buy the emotes, costumes, renames, or respecs.

Players, LONG TIME players, have asked for the ability to rename characters, and to move them across servers. They've asked for special costumes. They've asked for purchasable respecs. NC Soft is just giving them what they want. Just because YOU don't want it, does not mean there has not been a great demand. Why should WE all do without because you can't or won't buy these things?

Some people just want everything for nothing. If there is greed being displayed here, I am not seeing it on NC Soft's part. It appears to me to be coming from those who expect to be given and given and given, and don't want to give anything back in return.

For people that think this kind of thing in a subscription based game is ok, ask yourself this one question.

When is it to much?

If game developers can get little things in like this they will eventually put more and more and more into their games.  Soon you will be paying subscription fees to play a game the virtually requires cash item purchases to have a decent time.  Who wins in this scenario.  I for one do not think we players benefit from game developers putting price tags on things that could just as easily be designed as in game content. 

Things like this are not a conveince, they are a prelude.

I'd be curious to see numbers on how many people utilize this option.  I always had more respecs than I knew what to do with -- plus there was the availablity of the test server if I wanted to character copy and test out a build. Honestly, I think they'd make more money on it if they would lower the price to a much more reasonable $2.99. But whatever floats your boat!

I agree with an above poster, I have yet to come close to running out of respecs.  Personally, I'll never have a need of this service.  However, if some guy just can't stop tweaking his powers/slotting and wants to pay NCSoft to let him do it again... feel free.

This isn't like SOE in EQ2 where you can fork up cash for the Sword of Uberness cuz you're too dern lazy to get it yourself.  Respecing has absolutely no effect on the gameplay or balance. 

Plus, the "emotes" someone commented on as requiring payment was the wedding set.  It was more than just emotes, came with a tux and wedding dress costume pieces as well.  Some people did ask for this as people get married ingame.  Again, if they want to pay for something like this I don't see the problem.

Wow, there is a lot of negative posts about this new option. Well here is my input.

I have been playing CoX for over 3 years and this is something that many players have been wanting for a long time. Thanks to Veteran awards I’m set for respec’s but back in the day I might have used this option. When your new, can’t afford the respec recipe, and don’t have the time to spend on a Task Force to get a respec then this might be good option. Also the Villain side respec Task Force is a pain in the butt. So, there are a lot of ways to get a respec, and they just added another for those who don’t have or have problems getting one.

On the emote/costume comments. This only one set like that and it is the Wedding set. It is a special set for people who want to have their toons get married. It is not a major thing and comes with tuxes, wedding dresses and lingerie. Plus a few emotes for weddings.

I agree that NCSoft has done a much better job managing then game then Cryptic ever did, but this still makes me a bit uneasy.

Yeah on the villain side it is a pain to find Respec Taskforce because everyone that has a veteran account is stilling on more respecs than they'll ever need.  I had a friend that I brought into the game try to find a respec taskforce.. lol good luck.  Then I explained all the freebies that come with account age, and the freebies with new issues.  He was not amused and felt like it was a aspect of the game that had been mismanaged... I'm sure $10 would have sat well with him at that point, pppfffftt well not really.

I doubt this is going to make a dent in the RMT market, and heck if they would rebalance the pool drops in a way that made sense.. the RMT would have much less of an impact on the game.

Oh yeah.. lol free expansions.  I love that every time I see it because its such a spin on the truth.  I mean as if its the only game that takes subscriber money and puts it towards new content.. other games call it game updates, publishes, chapters, or patches btw.  Now it is turning into the only subscriber based game that I can thinking of which is slowly integrating a cash shop.  Look for double xp potions next!

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Originally posted by ebonfire
I agree that NCSoft has done a much better job managing then game then Cryptic ever did, but this still makes me a bit uneasy.
Yeah on the villain side it is a pain to find Respec Taskforce because everyone that has a veteran account is stilling on more respecs than they'll ever need. I had a friend that I brought into the game try to find a respec taskforce.. lol good luck. Then I explained all the freebies that come with account age, and the freebies with new issues. He was not amused and felt like it was a aspect of the game that had been mismanaged... I'm sure $10 would have sat well with him at that point, pppfffftt well not really.
I doubt this is going to make a dent in the RMT market, and heck if they would rebalance the pool drops in a way that made sense.. the RMT would have much less of an impact on the game.
Oh yeah.. lol free expansions. I love that every time I see it because its such a spin on the truth. I mean as if its the only game that takes subscriber money and puts it towards new content.. other games call it game updates, publishes, chapters, or patches btw. Now it is turning into the only subscriber based game that I can thinking of which is slowly integrating a cash shop. Look for double xp potions next!

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I bet there are a lot of people who would gladly pay for Double XP tokens. I would, on some of my characters. Good suggestion. They often schedule double XP weekends when I have other committments. I don't mind a cash shop at all. It's nice being able to purchase things I want for my characters without resorting to dealing with the scum-of-the-earth influence spammers.

Perhaps you should suggest to your friend that he join a good, active supergroup. I've never had problems running any TF, SF or Trial. I just let the guys know I need something and tell them when I'd like to do it and often have to turn people away. There are also badge global channels that are great places to pick up folks to do a respec or task force. Badgers will do them solely for the badge, even if they don't need the respec. (The only reason I have ever done them). Often you can find people who will help just for the sake of helping out.

I don't know much about SOE. I do know I don't trust Sony as far as I can throw them since they began installing rootkits on their customers' machines, so I tend to avoid anything made by/created by/run by them.

You notice the double xp weekends are usually right after an Issue is released.  Good timing on their parts, get the vets happy with new content and returning players get to jump quickly into the game and get passed the "newbie" levels quickly.