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Kyleran
Elite Member
Joined: 9/13/06
A simple truth-"What people want and what is good for an mmo is not always the same thing"-mrw0lf |
7/26/08 3:42:53 PM#41
All I can say is folks take things too seriously and are far too sensitive about these things. I'd have shrugged it off and moved on. Or battled with him. But I wouldn't have acted so indignant and offended by him. So many important things in the world to get riled up over.... this isn't one of them.
"Just because you aren't paying doesn't mean it's not PTW." - Amaranthar |
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Ghost12
Novice Member
Joined: 1/25/07
Achiever 66.67%, Explorer 26.67%, Killer 100.00%, Socializer 40.00% |
7/26/08 3:51:47 PM#42
Wow thats really really shameful. Those moderators need a good whipping. You are in a service position that deals with the public, and even if the public asks a "stupid" and I'm putting stupid in quotes for a reason - "stupid" question, they should have the professionalism to give a productive answer. An answer such as "You dont need to go back" is very unprofessional and reflects the face of FunCom as a company as well. Shame on you FunCom! Ive read some more of these forums, and man, they are just bad. This reflects to me, as a potential customer, that FunCom is a very unproffessional company and they do not respect their customer base. The bottom line: Since Funcom did not take the time out to train their moderators in dealing with the public, customer service, reflects back on to me that FunCom does not have respect for their customers. Thats it. They simply dont have the respect. |
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7/26/08 3:53:06 PM#43
This is crazy. I haven't seen this much vitriol and hate on a newly launched game since the Vanguard mess. Have any of you that are leaping at every chance to slam Funcom and Age of Conan paused to catch your breath and reconsider how reasonable you're actually being? Vanguard WAS a near total debacle. Sigil was a completely mismanaged mess, utterly imploded, SOE swooped in to save the day and the game is actually a lot more playable now for their efforts. They've done a great job with it. I don't get why Age of Conan is getting the same kind of hate thrown at it though. It's a pretty damn good game, in my opinion. The Tortage experience was excellent. I loved how they had a different perspective of the story depending on your overall archetype (warrior, cleric, rogue, mage). The graphics are absolutely stunning and the combat system is a little different than I'm used to which is entertaining. Is it a perfect game? No. Does it include every feature that Funcom hoped to launch with? Again, no. Was I disappointed to leave Tortage the first time and discover the voice acting stopped? Yes, a little. Am I still enjoying the game regardless? Yes, without a doubt. Do I believe Funcom will continue to develop the game and add as many of the things they hoped to pre-launch and numerous other things they've surely planned for later expansion/improvements? Of course, what would lead me to believe otherwise? Maybe I'm just getting a little older and more understanding of what these development companies are facing in the real world of business that they're operating in. What is going on with WAR having to scale back cities and classes doesn't phase me in the slightest. They're doing what they believe they need to do. I think a lot of people just need to pause and look around and realize that this sort of thing has happened and will continue to happen with EVERY game. Even some of the most solid A-list games have had hard launches and growing pains at times. Even mighty World of Warcraft had to scramble to deal with issues at launch. City of Heroes has been such a work in progress since Day 1 that it is barely recognizeable to the game it was at launch, much less the original concepts we all read about that are now being realized in some ways in the upcoming Champions Online. Bottom line is that Age of Conan is a pretty solid game as it is right now, especially when compared to what else is out there right now. The graphics are very nice, the combat system is a decent tweak on the standard fare, there are already some pretty cool features that other games don't have (like city building), and I have been given no reason to believe that Funcom doesn't have every intention of continuing to develop and improve the game going forward.
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AmazingAvery
Age of Conan Advocate
Joined: 1/16/07
The only time you run out of chances is when you stop taking them. |
7/26/08 4:01:35 PM#44
Originally posted by AmazingAvery Still think this is relevant. Its a witch hunt. Its shameful of people to keep going on about it. Shows just how hateful and jaded gamers can be. Lets not forget the venom is coming from people who don't post on the official boards nor play the game either. Its like animal mentality, "lets kick someone", "no wait... I want a piece of the action too, lets all kick him for the sake of it." Enough is enough. Sad .....
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7/26/08 4:10:38 PM#45
Originally posted by AmazingAvery Still think this is relevant. Its a witch hunt. Its shameful of people to keep going on about it. Shows just how hateful and jaded gamers can be. Lets not forget the venom is coming from people who don't post on the official boards nor play the game either. Its like animal mentality, "lets kick someone", "no wait... I want a piece of the action too, lets all kick him for the sake of it." Enough is enough. Sad .....
lolololol the official boards? they're far worst than these forums. the game is failing now that people have gotten over the pretty graphics and have played long enough to see it for what it really is....this game needed another 6-8 months of GOOD developement . the game is nothing but empty promises and people are leaving at a high rate.
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7/26/08 4:16:03 PM#46
Originally posted by Die_Scream
Ive reach lvl75 my guild is already gone about 150+ peeps, most of time 4 to 8 peeps online, game is just terible, to many things to sum up whats wrong with it, but for me reason not to finish last 5 lvls, terible game launch and next 1.5 month ive played it, it failed completely for me. Ones who still defend AoC sure they have a right to do so and if they have fun with it thats ok fine for them, if you like a half finished bugged unbalance multi player game, for me its not realy a mmorpg max 50 people in same instance maps are small and very linair no real exploration, easy game. Wax museum most most stand still to be slaughtered, from lvl1 to lvl80 its mostly kill 10x or 20x or deliver this from point A to B. Instance in instance are boring and no WOW factor at all dull design with boring mobs inside. |
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buckstar0814
Novice Member
Joined: 10/17/06
Who cares what games I''ve played? On these forums your damned if you do and damned if you don''t |
7/26/08 4:26:02 PM#47
Originally posted by AmazingAvery Still think this is relevant. Its a witch hunt. Its shameful of people to keep going on about it. Shows just how hateful and jaded gamers can be. Lets not forget the venom is coming from people who don't post on the official boards nor play the game either. Its like animal mentality, "lets kick someone", "no wait... I want a piece of the action too, lets all kick him for the sake of it." Enough is enough. Sad ..... Dude, you are a hardcore fanboi. I'm not a jaded gamer, I'm a jaded consumer, paying $50.00 to play a beta version of the game sucked. The "venom' comes from those who don't play the game because we all quit during the first month, so yea we don't play the game. Once again, because we don't like to pay to play a beta version of the game. "Sad...." yes your undying devotion to this forum to slam back on consumers who were ripped off. _____________________________ |
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AmazingAvery
Age of Conan Advocate
Joined: 1/16/07
The only time you run out of chances is when you stop taking them. |
7/26/08 4:31:14 PM#48
Originally posted by buckstar0814 Dude, you are a hardcore fanboi. I'm not a jaded gamer, I'm a jaded consumer, paying $50.00 to play a beta version of the game sucked. The "venom' comes from those who don't play the game because we all quit during the first month, so yea we don't play the game. Once again, because we don't like to pay to play a beta version of the game. "Sad...." yes your undying devotion to this forum to slam back on consumers who were ripped off.
Are you on topic?? its about the witch hunt against this moderator. Why dont you go kick him too, then create a new thread saying the same thing against, search his posts up and make some more comments. That is your opinion you were ripped, There are 302 people in my guild, maybe 20 post on the official boards regularly, rest are in the game at least 4 times a week on average. Didnt like the game, fair enough, go post on one of many topics about it, this is about moderation and a Witch Hunt to keep slamming a mod who isnt gracious enough by a select few hardcore haters who feel just like you... Hard done by and feel the need to let everyone know and attack EVERY little freaking element to do with the game. You speak like "We" is everyone. Its not. Get over it. sorry Kyleran..
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7/26/08 4:31:47 PM#49
Originally posted by Slythe Seed? that mod has no idea what he's talking about. I've got a funny feeling he'll be asked to leave as MOD soon. |
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7/26/08 4:34:52 PM#50
Originally posted by Enigma Seed? that mod has no idea what he's talking about. I've got a funny feeling he'll be asked to leave as MOD soon. you forget this is Funcom we are talking about They will probably make him a VP and give him a corner office |
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Ghost12
Novice Member
Joined: 1/25/07
Achiever 66.67%, Explorer 26.67%, Killer 100.00%, Socializer 40.00% |
7/26/08 5:26:40 PM#51
When seven topics in a row are locked, you know something is wrong. Yes, seven topics one after the other are locked. Absolutely ridiculous, but hilarious, at the same time. |
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7/26/08 5:44:05 PM#52
Originally posted by Shastra
QFT
Lufkin was being unprofessional, immature and basically a total tool. I like AoC, but this kind of moderation is unacceptable. He does not help to improve FC's reputation, instead he encourages the barrage of hate at FC wtih his troll-like reply to the OP. Bad form. Period. I make spreadsheets at work - I don't want to make them for the games I play. |
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7/26/08 6:06:31 PM#53
FC never ceases to amaze me with their total misunderstanding of human nature and customer service. I don't know if it is arrogance, ignorance, or just plain old stupidity on their managements part but they continue to disregard their customers and treat them like crap and then sit back and wonder why their players are deserting them in droves. They nickel and dime themselves and use rabid fanbois moderators instead of hiring a CS pro like other companies do. Turbine and Patience set a standard that other companies should strive for. Mythic had Sonja for years and she could calm down a fan base like there was no tommorrow when Mythic would do one of it's stealth nerfs. I can think of a couple of other good ones also, but needless to say Funcom has never been one to use as a example except in the negative sense. |
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7/26/08 6:44:53 PM#54
Originally posted by AmazingAvery
How do you think funcom and AoC comes off for a neutral, potential customer? Which hunt or not.. this mod represents unprofessionalism in the eyes of the consumer, and knowing funcom, I bet they wont do anything about it. |
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7/26/08 7:13:11 PM#55
Copying this here due to my thread being locked.
In reference to Old Lufky
Some of his usuals here Player tries to help other players out http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=144601 He has a hardon for locking threads where the info is already posted even though it may save a player some headaches if he just let it go.
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?p=1705326#post1705326 Here he locks the thread that he uses as an excuse for locking the other.
this http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=144028 followed by this http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?p=1702200#post1702200 Another simple question and a lock http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=143495
Showing his maturity http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=140585
He just seems to be a complete tool and exactly what FC does NOT need right now.
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7/26/08 7:49:11 PM#56
He may be gone by this week. Here is the correspondence I sent funcom and the letter they sent back: To whom it may concern: I unsubscribed from Age of Conan last month due to the immaturity of the people who represent your company (GMs, Volunteer Moderators, etc); so I hope you take this letter seriously or you may loose more. You need to monitor Lufkin on the Official US AoC forums. He is single handedly misrepresenting your company and not making Funcom look very mature if he is a representative of Funcom. I have been a forum Moderator for EVE Online, MMORPG.com and Everquest 2 as well as an in game Guide for Sony Online Entertainment and CCP games. I have never in all my days of gaming see immaturity coming from a forum moderator of an official forums as I have from Lufkin. I challenge you to do a forum search on your moderator. You may be surprised with what you find and you may want to keep a closer leash on them. Warmest Regards, Response back: Dear <edited> Thank you for your inquiry regarding this matter. We believe that allowing our players to partake of our moderation team not only allows them to take responsibility and develop individual leadership skills but it also gives our most sincere members to actively take part in the continuing improvement of Age of Conan. With that said we are looking into your inquiry and we have receive similiar complaints. If poor relations between Funcom and yourself was the deciding factor for you leaving, I invite you to enter back into Hyboria to see what improvements we have developed so far. As for the moderator in question we take seriously all complaints and we investigate all matters relating to this. Sincerely Funcom |
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Cymdai
Novice Member
Joined: 6/05/05
It''s my job to be objective, it''s my right to have an opinion. |
7/26/08 7:56:53 PM#57
Originally posted by Enigma
I read that as: "Dear customer, Please don't stop paying the monthly fees because of our poor personnel decisions. We know, we KNOW we're doing a bad job... but to be honest, we just don't care. This is why, despite numerous complaints regarding the moderator in question, and our customer service practices in general, we're still not taking any corrective actions to fix the problem. I hope after reading this, you'll renew your sub, but at the end of the day, we're going to protect our own. Sincerely, Funcom" |
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7/26/08 8:05:51 PM#58
Originally posted by Enigma Why the hell would Funcom care about developing some random fanboi's leadership skills? What a completely BS answer. |
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7/26/08 8:15:42 PM#59
Originally posted by Slythe Why the hell would Funcom care about developing some random fanboi's leadership skills? What a completely BS answer.
Fanbois are free. |
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Cabe2323
Novice Member
Joined: 8/03/06
The nine most terrifying words are: I''m from the government and I''m here to help. -Reagan |
7/26/08 8:58:26 PM#60
Not all of the moderators are bad in my opinion.
(and not all of them are fanboys. Some of them I am sure just like to help enforce the rules. Maybe they have a RL job where rules are very important...like say the US Navy... and so they wanted to help make the forums a better place for their fellow players.) Currently playing: Looking Foward too: |