Originally posted by megaflux19

um, there is no "playing" in second life, no score, no goals,just ..well non-hetro activities. may as well just buy some barbie dolls and sit in yahoo chat rooms with a web cam doing fashion shows.

dont see how this is even up for debate, then again theres a few games on here that dont belong. even if you make them aware of it they say things like "it is something of intrest to our users"...that somehow  validates it (like hellgate london), im sure alot of users also have heavy intrests in adult content, yet there is no 3feel forum.

So let me guess, you are some sort of racist, sexist, jughead who judges things solely based upon your limited experience in the world?

"non-hetro" activities. Wow, just wow.

not exactly, but as a man i dont really find myself playing dressup, or thinking "i think ill run down this street just to see whats there!"

you think they made this game for masculine types? cmon be a little bit realistic, there is no way in hell.

do i even need to start making assumptions about who/what you are?

and to jump to the conclusion that my experiences in the world are limited...tsk tsk tsk. plainly you have no clue what you are talking about.

Originally posted by megaflux19

not exactly, but as a man i dont really find myself playing dressup, or thinking "i think ill run down this street just to see whats there!"

you think they made this game for masculine types? cmon be a little bit realistic, there is no way in hell.

do i even need to start making assumptions about who/what you are?

and to jump to the conclusion that my experiences in the world are limited...tsk tsk tsk. plainly you have no clue what you are talking about.

Buddy, you keep making statements that invite scrutiny. Stating that one type of activity is "non-hetero" as well as stating that the game was not made for "masculine" types I can only draw one assumption of the glorious picture that is "you".

There are gay men who are so "masculine" that they would not be out of place on an oil rig. There are Straight men who get manicures and use very expensive facial products.

There are gay men who Rock Climb, hunt and do martial arts. There are straight men who are heavily into the arts, paint, design clothes, etc.

If you can't see this then I wonder what experiences you are having! I think the world is a far larger place than you might realize.

I don't think any video games are made for "masculine types".

Anyway, Second Life is definately a MMO, it's not a typical RPG but since all you can do is roleplay or build, I think you pretty much have to consider it one anyway. I hate Second Life personally, but saying it doesn't apply to it's genre isn't really much of an insult, and it's full of so many things to make fun of. Anyway, with games like Rakion listed on here, which definately isn't a MMO it's kind of a nonpoint.

*This stupid website jacked up my post*

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by megaflux19

not exactly, but as a man i dont really find myself playing dressup, or thinking "i think ill run down this street just to see whats there!"

you think they made this game for masculine types? cmon be a little bit realistic, there is no way in hell.

do i even need to start making assumptions about who/what you are?

and to jump to the conclusion that my experiences in the world are limited...tsk tsk tsk. plainly you have no clue what you are talking about.

 

Buddy, you keep making statements that invite scrutiny. Stating that one type of activity is "non-hetero" as well as stating that the game was not made for "masculine" types I can only draw one assumption of the glorious picture that is "you".:

-yea really, they made this game for the fps crowd (sarcasm incase you didnt assume it)

There are gay men who are so "masculine" that they would not be out of place on an oil rig. There are Straight men who get manicures and use very expensive facial products.

-no, those are men living in denial

There are gay men who Rock Climb, hunt and do martial arts. There are straight men who are heavily into the arts, paint, design clothes, etc.

-so what? you didnt list straight men as playing second life tho now DID YOU?

If you can't see this then I wonder what experiences you are having! I think the world is a far larger place than you might realize.

-i think you are choosing for whatever reason to deny that this is not a game a whole lot of marines are playing. i dont really care what assumption you draw, the fact is this is NOT a game for the blood and guts crowd, im not taking it any further than that since its obvious you are trying to get me to behave in a certain way.

i dont care WHAT anyones orientation is, and i would certainly never ask anyone to change who they are to appease my whims (unfortunately this site does not share that approach), just dont try to make it sound like the same people who are looking for competition and action in their games are flocking to this digital dress-up sim. because that is a lie.

Is this debate still going on? it's rather simple.. second life is a framework on which applications are run, in the same way that the internet is. Within that framework there have been people that have constructed games, social networks, applications, advertisements, etc etc. Like on the internet.

Second life is a virtual layer super-imposed on top of the internet, a different graphical medium to present the internet. But in of itself it is not a game. It is more like a glimpse at what the future of the internet itself will eventually look like, once VR becomes mainstream when the technology catches up.

*bah, forget it. MMORPG apparently hates me and is determined to corrupt my post every time I try to make it.*

Originally posted by UncertaintyP

I don't think any video games are made for "masculine types".

Anyway, Second Life is definately a MMO, it's not a typical RPG but since all you can do is roleplay or build, I think you pretty much have to consider it one anyway. I hate Second Life personally, but saying it doesn't apply to it's genre isn't really much of an insult, and it's full of so many things to make fun of. Anyway, with games like Rakion listed on here, which definately isn't a MMO it's kind of a nonpoint.

it isnt a game!

mmo-yes!

rpg-how?

this site is not mmorelated.com, its mmorpg.com. sure it would work if we were on mmosite.com, but the whole RPG part is not there!

mmosfs sure (massive multiplayer online sandbox fashion show), but not even close to rpg.

you can roleplay taking a dump or going to the supermarket too, that does NOT validate those actions as GAMES.

News flash: people can and DO roleplay on the internet. There are for instance the various fake event games where people put up fake info and websites and the goal is to try to decode it all etc.. with websites dedicated to posting your findings etc. and there are people who literally just roleplay via chat/forum mediums. That still does not make the internet "a game". Not is second life a game. It contains games, but it is not itself a game. What is so hard to understand about that?

I made about a two page long post but for some reason this crappy website is determined to jack it up and reorder everything I said each time I try to post it.

So here is the main jist of what I wated to say: Linden Labs directly says their software is NOT a game. They created the software, obviously they know what it is, so if they say its not a game then it is NOT a game. Peroid. End of debate.

Since that crazy guy with the blue text will continue to argue and claim I didn't give him any proof, here is the PROOF: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17538999/

Linden Lab, the company that created the platform that is Second Life, is emphatic that their creation is not a game. “There is no manufactured conflict, no set objective,” says spokesperson Catherine Smith. “It’s an entirely open-ended experience.”

Originally posted by Raltar

I made about a two page long post but for some reason this crappy website is determined to jack it up and reorder everything I said each time I try to post it.

So here is the main jist of what I wated to say: Linden Labs directly says their software is NOT a game. They created the software, obviously they know what it is, so if they say its not a game then it is NOT a game. Peroid. End of debate.

Since that crazy guy with the blue text will continue to argue and claim I didn't give him any proof, here is the PROOF: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17538999/

Linden Lab, the company that created the platform that is Second Life, is emphatic that their creation is not a game. “There is no manufactured conflict, no set objective,” says spokesperson Catherine Smith. “It’s an entirely open-ended experience.”

It's possible that it's a toy?

Its an MMOCAREBEARRPG, so I guess that does count as an MMORPG. Like many said before, its massive, its multiplayer, and its online, and you can role play your character...

The fact that I hate it and would punch anyone in the face IRL if they came up to me and told me they pay real money for Second Life doesn't count I guess..

Oh well, whatever floats peoples boat.

Oh but you have to admit, griefing is awesome in Second Life, mainly because the players are so stupid.

(I dont play it, never have, never will... but I speak from... videos I have seen )

The nerd fanbois may now flame me.

Originally posted by GormandY

Its an MMOCAREBEARRPG, so I guess that does count as an MMORPG. Like many said before, its massive, its multiplayer, and its online, and you can role play your character...

 

The fact that I hate it and would punch anyone in the face IRL if they came up to me and told me they pay real money for Second Life doesn't count I guess..

Oh well, whatever floats peoples boat.

 

Oh but you have to admit, griefing is awesome in Second Life, mainly because the players are so stupid.

(I dont play it, never have, never will... but I speak from... videos I have seen )

 

The nerd fanbois may now flame me.

Actually, the griefers are stupid, because they think they're having any kind of an impact at all.

Anyway, since you don't have to pay for SL, I'm not sure what your point is. Plenty of places to roleplay (Star Wars, Trek, BSG, sword and sorcery, dark futures, etc.) Actual roleplay, not this garbage you see listed in the left hand column that people pretend are RPGs simply because you play a character with stats. There's no roleplaying going on in any of them.

Myeha dont really understand why anyone with some sort of a life would play that. One of the main reasons why normal people go and chat in forums is because you can install games on your work computer. But why waste time wher you could be having fun to play in a 3d chatroom. Beats me.

how many of you pay real money to play real mmorpg to have an high level avatar tha has nothing special because just clicking the button millions of times everybody can have the same?

Can't understand some senseless attacks someone make to SL.

Most people woory about what the others do in SL instead of thinking what they could do.

Actually i would have to say after watching a mate play a Sim set up for pure roleplay (which was fighting e.t.c not some porn sim) it was probably the most amount of RP'ing i have seen in a game to date as much as i don't like this game it can be a MMO so long as you are on the right SIM but for the most part it is a virtual Chat channel.

Originally posted by Gillosfire

how many of you pay real money to play real mmorpg to have an high level avatar tha has nothing special because just clicking the button millions of times everybody can have the same?

Can't understand some senseless attacks someone make to SL.

Most people woory about what the others do in SL instead of thinking what they could do.

Simple Answer:

They lack ANY ability to think for themselves & be creative.  Anyone can create if they give it enough time to learn the skills. 

Rather than put forth an effort to do something, most would rather sit on their ass & let a company do it for them.

What most people pay for  playing WoW a year, I make 3x that or more a month.  Not selling sex.  Not selling RP stuff.  Not selling land.  Just skins for avatars.

Once winter comes along, I'm cashing out some of the money I made in SL and going on a nice vacation. 

Enjoy playing RPGs folks!  It gets you far in life!

Originally posted by Raltar

The creators of SL (Linden Labs) always try to deny that SL is a "game" because they are selling it as an actual "life" which can replace your "first" life. Often times if you call it a "game" while you are actually "playing" it then you will be yelled at by fanboys. And due to the fact that yelling in SL is often accompanied by virtual penis assaults I recommend not provoking the fanboys without good reason.

I LOL'd!