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      PK is hardly necessary in any game.....Basically PKers are people who get their thrills by ruining other players gameplay....... Also PKers arent looking for a fair fight their looking for that easy victim who never did anything to them......They arent looking for a game they're looking for someone they can dominate..... Every game I ever played that had PKers in it was zero fun......

Originally posted by wolfmann

For those using UO as an example... Stop.

If you read up about it and research it, you'll find out that UO was in a decline when they split the worlds... People were leaving in droves because of the FFA PvP...

Once the game was split in two worlds, people returned and UO got over 200k subscribers.

And the PvP world was empty. I say again EMPTY!

 

Those that didn't want to PvP didn't go there, so those that wanted to PvP didn't go there.. Cuz they had no victims. There wasnt enough PvP'ers that wanted to PvP "for real" to even assemble 1 good and decent battle in the PvP world.... They didn't want to fight eachother, they wanted victims, and thus instead of PvP'ing you could find them on the UO forums or other places screaming about how UO had been broken, ruined, messed up....

Yet UO was at its strongest...

QFT, it always amuses me when people bitch and moan about how Trammel ruined UO. No, the players ruined UO....

Originally posted by baff

And yet you still don't recognise the system of having a GM query you as preferable to just getting votekicked or autobanned or allowing botters free range to farm you.

Why am I less than suprised that you've known many that have had their accounts banned?

 There is no need for you to have your revenge on whoever falsely reported you. You didn't get banned. The end. Grow a pair and learn to behave like a man.

  Some people aren't emotionally able to deal with multiplayer games.

A GM sent you a tell. Boo hoo, How replying to people talking to you in game with a chat screen must really ruin your night. Obviously any who dared to cause this great a disturbence to you should be banned for their insolence.

Clearly you would prefer a system where cheaters botters and griefers take up your time and ruin your match as often as they like instead of a GM sending you a tell once in every 3 years.

 The GM's are there for your benefit mate. They provide a service to aid the enjoyment of your game.

There is nothing manly about insulting someone online or griefing them to "sort out your problems". Nothing smart about not using the expensive resolution systems purposely built into the game for this very reason.

 I fully suspect you never consider contacting a GM, becuase they would be completely unable to take any of your nonsense seriously and well you know it.

"Dear GM, Joe Blogs said "reported" in General chat, ban him for me."  "Dear GM, there I was minding my own business in Battlegrounds when someone ruined my night by sending me a PM".

You talk about kids in WoW, but if you don't mind me asking, exactly how old are you?

 We have GM's to keep people like you in line. No one really cares if you don't like it. Count yourself lucky we don't just auto ban and Votekick you as we do in all your other games.

This post is funny because he claims im immature yet flames me multiple times...because he cant get his point acrossed.

My point was that rules dont stop anything, there's still botters and cheaters. All they do is let people use the system for there advantage. Instead of adding rules they should fix the problem.

Sure it wasnt a big deal i got a pm, my point was that somebody tried to get me flagged/banned because they could.

Poster: Achiever 66.67%, Explorer 20.00%, Killer 100.00%, Socializer 13.33%

The survey is accurate!

I do agree with you to an extent though. The threat of PK is one of the most interesting elements of PVP and mmos overall. I would play PVP servers if I knew I was playing on level ground with other people who don't have more money and time to game than I do. As it is, I know I would get PK'd 1000 times a day by a vorpal blade wielding kid somewhere.

Originally posted by pkSlayde

 I have gone by the name of Slayde in my gaming life. As a pk I would like to tell you that pk is needed! It is needed because most Ultima Online (UO) veterans say that when they were scared it was the best part of the game, it provides a better community, and we are hunted down by others. This is why PK is important to a games life.

First of all, some veterans from the UO days claim that the most fun they had was when they were scared of being pk at every step. I was pk in Diablo 2 repeaditivly and it only made me stronger, because I learned how to survive in the world better. Uo had the murder-system which was where anyone killed anyone they wanted to wherever they wanted to. I should be able to in this game walk into a Dwarf city as a Chosen and kill anyone there NPC’s included, to hurt the other side. This is what would happen if chosen walked into a Dwarf city. Therefore pk is fun for fear reasons, and it is realistic.

Secondly, it provides a better community. Most older generation/teen generations get really annoyed at kids and players who beg, whine, bitch, spam, and tell Chuck Norris jokes. These people fill up the chat systems, and get ignored by others. But, When we kill them when they do this, they stop. If they don’t we kill them again and again. This makes people happy because they don’t have to listen to these people anymore. These players then start to actually play the game. PK makes a great community.

Lastly, people do get annoyed at us, which makes them ask their friends to come kill us. We need to be skillful at what we do because we can be killed at any moment as well. We also need to on the ball because we could be killed at any moment. Killing other players regardless of their level is a good aspect of the game.

Therefore, the online gaming world is made up of three different kinds of people: The Wolf, Carebear, and the Hero. The wolf is the PK, and he kills the carebears. The carebears are those who spam, whine, bitch, and beg. Carebears go and ask the Hero to save them by killing the Wolves. The Hero is the Anti-PK. They then go and kill the Wolves and are praised for it or they die trying. That is why PK is needed for online gaming.

wait for darkfall but i have feeling that you wont survive long in that game you are to much bragging about how good pk you are, even show pk kills lol, i can make list to and say ive killed millions:P

If  you had kill 1000000000000 im still not impressed, you still would be killed alot in a game like darkfall and lose all your loot:P

Bragging on forums is nothing, real good pvpers dont brag about that they just kill:)

Im waiting for you in darkfall and dedicated ANTI -pk killer:D

Originally posted by Theocritus

      PK is hardly necessary in any game.....Basically PKers are people who get their thrills by ruining other players gameplay....... Also PKers arent looking for a fair fight their looking for that easy victim who never did anything to them......They arent looking for a game they're looking for someone they can dominate..... Every game I ever played that had PKers in it was zero fun......

Huh?

Becouse your a carebear, you dont like pvp, so dont play open pvp games, other wise dont whine about it.

If a game have pk becouse its open pvp, there are also ANTI- players to help your ass.

Originally posted by Evasia

Originally posted by Theocritus

      PK is hardly necessary in any game.....Basically PKers are people who get their thrills by ruining other players gameplay....... Also PKers arent looking for a fair fight their looking for that easy victim who never did anything to them......They arent looking for a game they're looking for someone they can dominate..... Every game I ever played that had PKers in it was zero fun......

 

Huh?

Becouse your a carebear, you dont like pvp, so dont play open pvp games, other wise dont whine about it.

If a game have pk becouse its open pvp, there are also ANTI- players to help your ass.

 

That's why those of us that don;t prefer open FFA PvP don't play those games, unfortunatly for those of you that do like it there doesn;t seem to be enough of you to support a game.....

PK needs harsh penalties for it to work, Jail time, NPC guards, bounty systems. Just like in real life, you have the ability to kill another person, but you also know there are harsh punishments for doing so.

My ideal pk system would involve, guards who chase and kill players who near the town or their patrol routes.

Death penalties if they are killed by players such as loss of items or xp,

Jail time if apprehended by the npc guards, ranging from 1 day real time to a month real time depending on how many times they have gotten out of hand.

Pk player loses the ability to use npcs,

the only reason why free for all pvp ruins games is because there is no system in place to to govern the players acting iike dicks.

Originally posted by Hvymetal

Originally posted by Evasia

Originally posted by Theocritus

      PK is hardly necessary in any game.....Basically PKers are people who get their thrills by ruining other players gameplay....... Also PKers arent looking for a fair fight their looking for that easy victim who never did anything to them......They arent looking for a game they're looking for someone they can dominate..... Every game I ever played that had PKers in it was zero fun......

 

Huh?

Becouse your a carebear, you dont like pvp, so dont play open pvp games, other wise dont whine about it.

If a game have pk becouse its open pvp, there are also ANTI- players to help your ass.

 

 

That's why those of us that don;t prefer open FFA PvP don't play those games, unfortunatly for those of you that do like it there doesn;t seem to be enough of you to support a game.....

Believe me ill predict that plenty will play darkfall, not only becouse its open pvp also becouse its so much more then almost all mmorpgs out there.