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ArcAngel3  7/26/08 1:29:06 AM

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Do employees of software companies really pose as fans in an attempt to deceptively market their products?

Well a link from a friend in another thread led me to this interesting and illuminating article:

"UPDATE 14/12/06: Sony of America have admitted that the ploy was indeed their idea and have released this statement:

Busted. Nailed. Snagged. As many of you have figured out (maybe our speech was a little too funky fresh???), Peter isn't a real hip-hop maven and this site was actually developed by Sony. Guess we were trying to be just a little too clever. From this point forward, we will just stick to making cool products, and use this site to give you nothing but the facts on the PSP.

Sony Computer Entertainment America
 

 

They've also removed comments from the site. And the video from YouTube. The least they could do is leave it up there so others could learn from their mistakes.

Gamers across Web 2.0 are shaking angry fists at the latest alleged viral marketing campaign orchestrated by Sony. Piggybacking the YouTube bonanza, the company has hired "consumer activation" firm Zipatoni to create a false video-and-blogging approach to generate interest in their flagging PlayStation Portable handheld machine. The video/blog/ads featured people portending to be authentic PSP fans creating messages of love/want for the console, but were quickly uncovered by SomethingAwful.com's dedicated base as superficial facades shielding mouthpieces for the corporation.

In the past, Sony's award-winning PlayStation brand ads were celebrated for their creativity and innovation. Their recent campaigns, including an ill-advised series of graffiti art, suggests that they are having difficulty getting a handle on the bottom-up, community driven opportunities made possible with social software.

As I (and others more qualified than I) have commented before (under a different guise), big business must tread carefully if it wishes to employ "yoof" tactics to generate interest in its brands. Blogs and other social software rely upon the trust of the reader, which is why links, references and disclaimers feature on many (not all) posts. Transparency is key in the modern advertising-savvy marketplace. Bad fakes can be spotted a mile away, and good fakes often get found out with a fanfare of negativity. As an aside, I'm very curious how the YouTube-viewing public will respond to lonelygirl_15 when she makes her first above-the-board debut.

Unfortunately this latest attempt to integrate with the MySpace generation on their own terms marks another instance in Sony's recent PSP campaigns which consumers claim is undermining their trust. The most important currency online is trust. rhino86, a SomethingAwful commenter, sums it up succinctly:

and today class we are going to learn about how viral marketing can fail miserably and create distrust and hatred in our user base.

Interactive advertising is so much more than throwing a few irritating pop us in front of content or putting placeholders in the latest software du jour. It needs to start from the community, perhaps - if needs must - sparked by a few good ideas.

Why can't they stick to bus stops covered in bubble wrap?"

So, it would seem that people working for Sony really have posed as consumers in attempts to sway other (actual) consumers to buy their stuff.  It also seems that third party companies are contracted to do this.  I've noticed on rare occasions the same name posting what might be described by some as viral marketting material both for SOE and Funcom games.  At the time, I jokingly asked if these companies were outsourcing their marketting these days.  Maybe this wasn't far from the truth 0_o.

This is, by the way, now a criminal offence thanks to the Federal Trade Commission.

 
Fishermage  7/26/08 1:45:55 AM

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Well, since they are known for doing it before, and are also known to not learn their lessons from the past, I'd say it's HIGHLY possible they do it.

Rhoklaw  7/26/08 1:51:48 AM

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Uhm, this is just the tip of the iceberg for MMO issues. We got gold farming, exploiters, hackers, cheaters, item selling and a multitude of player run businesses that make a profit off these companies hard work. So, while SOE may seem a bit criminal here, lets face it, so is 90% of China then.

If big companies like SOE can't buckle down and stop gold and item selling. Prevent their games from being hacked and exploited, why shouldn't they just fight fire with fire?

I dislike SOE just as much as the next guy, but I really don't like people poking sticks in someones eye when they know other people have logs stuck up their arses.

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Fishermage  7/26/08 1:56:49 AM

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"I find your lack of faith disturbing."


Originally posted by Rhoklaw
Uhm, this is just the tip of the iceberg for MMO issues. We got gold farming, exploiters, hackers, cheaters, item selling and a multitude of player run businesses that make a profit off these companies hard work. So, while SOE may seem a bit criminal here, lets face it, so is 90% of China then.
If big companies like SOE can't buckle down and stop gold and item selling. Prevent their games from being hacked and exploited, why shouldn't they just fight fire with fire?
I dislike SOE just as much as the next guy, but I really don't like people poking sticks in someones eye when they know other people have logs stuck up their arses.

because usually, fighting fire with fire leads to a bigger fire.

It is wrong to willfully misrepresent yourself under any circumstances.

Rhoklaw  7/26/08 1:58:14 AM

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I agree, but theres a lot wrong with our world that will never get fixed or ever go away. Remember how people joked about nice guys always finishing last? Guess what, they do.

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Gishgeron  7/26/08 2:01:24 AM

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  Viral Marketing has been around for ages.  Back in the days of "cure all ointments", it wasn't uncommon to find the seller paying a random soul or two to "support" the product as an actual user or fan.   Its been a common practice for many advertisers for eons now.  As for Sony using it....well....they've a long history of choosing the WRONG path each time they come across a fork in the road.

  A shame that our entertainment corporations have fallen from an institution for the people to one against us.  Apparently, these days, we must be TOLD what to like.  That very ideal has always left a bad taste in my mouth.  I defy it to this very day, and shall continue to do so until my dying one.

ArcAngel3  7/26/08 2:02:38 AM

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Originally posted by Rhoklaw

Uhm, this is just the tip of the iceberg for MMO issues. We got gold farming, exploiters, hackers, cheaters, item selling and a multitude of player run businesses that make a profit off these companies hard work. So, while SOE may seem a bit criminal here, lets face it, so is 90% of China then.

If big companies like SOE can't buckle down and stop gold and item selling. Prevent their games from being hacked and exploited, why shouldn't they just fight fire with fire?

I dislike SOE just as much as the next guy, but I really don't like people poking sticks in someones eye when they know other people have logs stuck up their arses.

Ah the old "other people are committing worse crimes, so this one should be overlooked defense."  There's a name for this actually: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationalization_%28psychology%29
 

Why are you defending viral marketting anyways?

 
ArcAngel3  7/26/08 2:05:28 AM

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Originally posted by Rhoklaw

I agree, but theres a lot wrong with our world that will never get fixed or ever go away. Remember how people joked about nice guys always finishing last? Guess what, they do.


 

I'm sure you believe that, and I bet Smed does too.  Ironically, one of the things that makes WoW so successful is how "nice" they are to their customers. 

 
Rhoklaw  7/26/08 2:08:36 AM