Originally posted by jimmyman99

@ Pix

When you do receive your money, I expect to get either a 10% cut or a pizza, whichever is greater. Somehow, I have a feeling its gonna be pizza :(

On a serious note though, hope you get through this and get some cash back - all this trouble and all this time, you deserve something in reward. If you do, dont forget our pizza deal ;)

 Edit: regarding collection. Once all the court proceedings are over, depending on the number of creditors and local laws, if the company does not have enough money to pay debt, usually it means you can force them to sell their assets (including hardware and/or any IPs they hold). who knows, maybe Pix will end up owning D&L franchise!

Unfortunately I think the DNL "franchise" is less than worthless.  Most players who were even remotely interested in it wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

Not to mention it would be quite an expensive feat to fix all the crap in DnL, not to mention code in all the missing features.

Pix,

I saw a few people say these guys might take flight.  Can you not get the legal system to bar these guys from leaving the country until this is solved?  

Off topic question:   I was looking around on your site.  Is your technology featured in anything currently?  I watched the films on your site and the engine is stunning to say the least.     

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Originally posted by Dwerk-
Hi, i am new to this forum. By reading all this thread, i found how much immature is peope writing here, starting from _Pix_.
You know, i see that people here is hoping for Farlan to LOSE the lawsuit. But i would never hope for someone to lose a lawsuit. Farlan has already lost: the game did not sell well, they have tons of difficulties, they have terrible reputation among the gaming community: IF they stole the terrain engine, they have been already punished by the market: there is no need to damage them again. On the other hand, Mr _Pix_ will earn lots of money if he wins the lawsuit, and this is why he is writing here, trying to change the public opinion in his own interest. You are using this forum to damage reputation of a company, Mr _Pix_, and this is something i do not tolerate. I think that speaking publicly about you enemy during a trial you are involved on, BEFORE AND AFTER the final judjement of a court is morally incorrect, immature, and wrong. Because the next time you are involved in a lawsuit, you may be in the OTHER side and lose.
The trial is carried on inside the rooms of the french tribunals, NOT in a gaming forum. I see many people in this forum which openly HOPES for Farlan to lose the legal battle. Well, maybe this people have never been involved in a real-world trial. Maybe you have never lost a trial, and i hope it will never happen in your life, because it's a very bad thing (especially if you are innocent - it happens more often than what you think).
I have played dark and light for many time, and i have the RIGHT to say it is a good game. I don't have to explain why i like it, i like it - full stop. I do not understand WHY many people here hopes for the game to quit: what is your interest? what do YOU earn if DnL quits? Will you receive money from VWORLD? Of course, _Pix_ will be very happy (and will earn tons of money), but we players will not earn a cent. Those that play DnL will lose their free game. And the other players will lose a "free bad game", and will not earn a "new good game".   Well, i am on the side of the players, not of _Pix_, neither of Farlan.  REPEAT: i am on the side of MMORPG players.
You see, Mr _Pix_, you have found some free citizen, a free indipendent European which is not on your side. Will you issue a writ against me? Will you say that i am a psycopathic? i can give you my real address if you want.
I hope the best of luck to you AND to dark&light.

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I think this guy is Farlan in disguise...

and for the record...I believe they already fled the country, as, you know, all innocent people commonly do.

I personally always liquidate what assets I have and flee to china every time I'm winning a court case because I am honest and in the right...

Originally posted by Zorbane

Originally posted by jimmyman99

@ Pix

When you do receive your money, I expect to get either a 10% cut or a pizza, whichever is greater. Somehow, I have a feeling its gonna be pizza :(

On a serious note though, hope you get through this and get some cash back - all this trouble and all this time, you deserve something in reward. If you do, dont forget our pizza deal ;)

 Edit: regarding collection. Once all the court proceedings are over, depending on the number of creditors and local laws, if the company does not have enough money to pay debt, usually it means you can force them to sell their assets (including hardware and/or any IPs they hold). who knows, maybe Pix will end up owning D&L franchise!

 

Unfortunately I think the DNL "franchise" is less than worthless.  Most players who were even remotely interested in it wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

Not to mention it would be quite an expensive feat to fix all the crap in DnL, not to mention code in all the missing features.

Lol. I think VWORLD would rather prefer to simply and quite logically get the money NPCube was fined . A DnL "franchise" would not be indeed a good deal, since this "franchise" would come along a certain number of "promised features" DnL customers already paid for, but didn't get effectively: 
 

- VWORLD would have to design, print and send thousands of maps
- VWORLD would have to design, run and promote a server technology suite capable of handling hundreds of thousands millions of players on the same server
- VWORLD would have to design, write, and translate a game design  
- VWORLD would have to re-gain the confidence of the customers that were repeatledly charged on their Visa 
- etc, etc, etc

The only feature that VWORLD would be confident to provide without going the long lie rope would be the seamless big terrain which seems in the end to be the One remaining asset of Dark and Light.  

Originally posted by daelnor

and for the record...I believe they already fled the country, as, you know, all innocent people commonly do.

I personally always liquidate what assets I have and flee to china every time I'm winning a court case because I am honest and in the right...

Man, and do  you fly to Mars whenever you lose a court case?! Cause that would be a little bit difficult to catch you there... 

BTW I've been informed that NPCube has been convicted in yet another case and that the Clerk's Office has just informed the winning party that their Office was not in a position to notify NPCube since its manager Cesar Jacquet was nowhere to be found on Reunion Island/France.     

Originally posted by ChromeBallz

A double necro, i simply needed to reply here aswell.

 

To this Dwerk- guy:

Yes, i hope that Farlan loses. I am saying that from a player's perspective, and from a consumer's perspective.

- In good faith i bought a product from Farlan/NPC, which they never delivered.

- In order to not get billed, i needed to *not* activate my account according to Farlan. However, they contradicted themselves by billing me 6 months later, and telling me that i had to activate the account to *not* get billed.

 

These are the reasons why people want Farlan to lose. We are consumers, and we got scammed. By proxy, Pix is getting our money back.

My thoughts exactly. Good post

Originally posted by pfloydguy84
the game is a joke anyways.even if they won the lawsuit, the game would still suck.even if they made the game twice as stable and removed half the bugs, it would still be barely playable and suck horribly.the game is garbage and is the laughing stock of the mmo community.Id go as far as calling DnL the worst mmo ever created.

DnL i s a close second to Mourning as the worst game ever.

a close second???

Umm...pardon,.... but I really dont think DNL was ever anywhere close to a"game"..........

Sidenote:

Zorv!! where ya at sweetie?? wanna play whichja!! hehehe

Originally posted by Cholayna

 

a close second???

 

Umm...pardon,.... but I really dont think DNL was ever anywhere close to a"game"..........

Sidenote:

Zorv!! where ya at sweetie?? wanna play whichja!! hehehe

Lets put it this way, if DnL was 3-Mile Island, then Mourning was Chyrnobl. 

You obviously never played Mourning after it released to the pubic.  DnL was a game, if even for a short time.  They released Mourning before there were any skills for the players to use.  The fact that there i still something to "play" makes it a thousand times more successful than Mourning. 

To put it another way.... if DnL was Britany Spears, then Mourning was Michael Vick.....

edit

Ah! I was almost right in saying that "I guess we'll see a number of posters putting forward "it's all Pix's fault " if they fired every single soul at NPCube.": We have now kinda official answer on the subject:

http://www.darkandlight.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72092

"Alas the development team was strongly reduced while waiting for the end of the lawsuit. We hope to be able to reopen the completely functional servers soon. Please excuse us for the inconvenience."

So, if they fired the whole team (which is translated by "strongly reduced the team" in the NFAAW - NPCube/Farlan and al world) this is because they were waiting for the end of THE lawsuit. I wonder if this is for the same reason that they seemed to switch off their server and that the Chinese press reported that SnailGame "Beijing office" went bankrupt. Are they  all waiting for the end of THE lawsuit? Gosh, patience is a great virtue, but it remains quite a pathetic excuse when you know they did their best at delaying and delaying and delaying the case(s).

Originally posted by Neverknow

Originally posted by Cholayna

 

a close second???

 

Umm...pardon,.... but I really dont think DNL was ever anywhere close to a"game"..........

Sidenote:

Zorv!! where ya at sweetie?? wanna play whichja!! hehehe

 

He is on a temporary vacation due to some Darkfall fanbois. Let's just say I'm taking all his calls.

Hehe, I was wondering where you had been Zorvan...seems like those DF fans nailed you again. 

I expected you to have an alt somewhere (you must be prepared after all of your other bans).  Nice to know you're still roaming these forums.

I should have recognized your sense of humor sooner...

Originally posted by mike470

Originally posted by Neverknow

Originally posted by Cholayna

 

a close second???

 

Umm...pardon,.... but I really dont think DNL was ever anywhere close to a"game"..........

Sidenote:

Zorv!! where ya at sweetie?? wanna play whichja!! hehehe

 

He is on a temporary vacation due to some Darkfall fanbois. Let's just say I'm taking all his calls.

 

Hehe, I was wondering where you had been Zorvan...seems like those DF fans nailed you again. 

I expected you to have an alt somewhere (you must be prepared after all of your other bans).  Nice to know you're still roaming these forums.

I should have recognized your sense of humor sooner...

Alt? No no, just my secretary. I just dictate what to post.

CHO, I'M HERE!!!!

Gawd! The waiting for the next court fiasco seems endless this time.....dangit! I wanna laugh!!! Show us some hijinks Farlan!

Originally posted by Cholayna

Gawd! The waiting for the next court fiasco seems endless this time.....dangit! I wanna laugh!!! Show us some hijinks Farlan!

The wait will all be worth it once the news comes

Just want to point out to Dwerk that it is actually very important for the MMORPG community that Farlan loses the court battle.  (And learn to punctuate Dwerk.   The paragraph is a wonderful invention). 

Legal punishment has a major purpose - to deter others.     When the next shady developer thinks they can get away creating some shoddy piece of junk, hype and lie about how great it is all while using someone else's technology then the Farlan case will be an important lesson.    

It's not just a lesson to future developesr, however, it's also a lesson to all those gullible fanbois who swallowed all the clueless hype.   Next time listen  and if a developer sounds like a used car salesman, remember Farlan.

Originally posted by Talinguard

Originally posted by Cholayna

 

a close second???

 

Umm...pardon,.... but I really dont think DNL was ever anywhere close to a"game"..........

Sidenote:

Zorv!! where ya at sweetie?? wanna play whichja!! hehehe

 

Lets put it this way, if DnL was 3-Mile Island, then Mourning was Chyrnobl. 

You obviously never played Mourning after it released to the pubic.  DnL was a game, if even for a short time.  They released Mourning before there were any skills for the players to use.  The fact that there i still something to "play" makes it a thousand times more successful than Mourning. 

To put it another way.... if DnL was Britany Spears, then Mourning was Michael Vick.....

 

I cant believe what this game has finally done to us. It has got us comparing one pile of crap with another pile of crap.

Damn we are in BIG BIG trouble

is the game still on? Do the china people have access?

Originally posted by Cholayna

is the game still on? Do the china people have access?

The Chinese are busy watching their 12 year olds, er..I mean 16 year olds ( yeah right) falsely win Olympic gold.