Originally posted by mmofanatic

Now I don't know if this is accually the developers but they said they were and im just going to believe them.

But Funcom hosts a Team Fortress 2 server which I ended up playing on one day. After talking about the game for a bit one of the server admins (claims to be a dev) asked how old i was. Not knowing where he was going with this i just said 19.

After i said that the dev/admin started ranting for a few minutes about how someone as young as me has no idea the time and effort it takes to develop an MMO.

That's true i don't. But to me, this dev seemed like a "little baby" after I mentioned my opinion. So to me it seems the devs don't like anyone critiquing their "masterpiece".

To me, it doesn't matter if I know how the development process works.  All I know is that alot of work goes into it.

Now, as a (now former) paying customer, I just need to know this:

* Are the listed, hyped about features in-game?  Why not?  WHEN are they coming out?

* I know there will be bugs.  That's a given for any MMO, especially new ones.  But the main thing is this... how quickly are the devs resolving issues, especially major ones?  How are fixes to broken abilities and classes going along?

* If you're going to Nerf, then fix things instead of  only crippling classes.

There's more for me, but these are the core ones, esp. when it came down to AoC.  Since the answers to the above points were all in a negative direction, I felt no heartache when I hit the Cancel button.

Funcon Dev's are probubly laughting there heads off all the way to the bank.

They dont care, with all the sells this game had It made profit I bet.

Mmorpg's cost lots of money to make. they ran out of it.....

They dont care about what you think. To them your a bunch of dummies that bought

there game with faith it was any good. And they wish it was but they ran out of money and had to pay back

a hole lot they had borrowed , 

"Oh BTW this game Suck but still buy it We need to pay off a hole lot of cash."

I did not buy this game, and I wont buy WAR right at launch.  If you do and are disapointed then you only

have your own stupidity to blame.

Originally posted by Aguitha

On the AOC forum that is.   My brother who's been playing the game since launch hit 80 last week.

Since he hit 80 he found himself bored with the lack of content end game, so he decided to quit the game, not definitively, but for a while, until they add some end game content at least.

He went to the official forum and post a very intelligent post about the reasons why he was leaving and made suggestion what Funcom should do to improve the game.

His post was well written, polite, expressing it's tought about the game.  Well FC ban him from the forum for making a critic about the game.

I played this game about 2 weeks before quitting, my brothers stick to hit for some reasons, i just can't believe a company actiing like that.   To post any cristisism about the game earn you a ban from their forum.  I lost all respect i had for this company.  Maybe communism is accepted in Oslo, but not in the rest of world.

Peace.

Well, as a mod on the AoC forums, i can tell you it's against the Eula to post information about your account.  An example of this is to say that you are quitting the game, and canceled your subscription.

Originally posted by dancord26

Originally posted by Aguitha

On the AOC forum that is.   My brother who's been playing the game since launch hit 80 last week.

Since he hit 80 he found himself bored with the lack of content end game, so he decided to quit the game, not definitively, but for a while, until they add some end game content at least.

He went to the official forum and post a very intelligent post about the reasons why he was leaving and made suggestion what Funcom should do to improve the game.

His post was well written, polite, expressing it's tought about the game.  Well FC ban him from the forum for making a critic about the game.

I played this game about 2 weeks before quitting, my brothers stick to hit for some reasons, i just can't believe a company actiing like that.   To post any cristisism about the game earn you a ban from their forum.  I lost all respect i had for this company.  Maybe communism is accepted in Oslo, but not in the rest of world.

Peace.

 

Well, as a mod on the AoC forums, i can tell you it's against the Eula to post information about your account.  An example of this is to say that you are quitting the game, and canceled your subscription.

Information, as in password, account I.D. etc..Not a well written critique that just happens to have, "I cancelled", at the end of it.
 

If I'm wrong, then post a link to the eula that clearly states it. If it's in general terms then anything could be considered "account information". 

I have a Ranger. I just told you about my account.

See how that works buddy?

P.S. and this is your first post here, go figure.

Well, as a mod on the AoC forums, i can tell you it's against the Eula to post information about your account.  An example of this is to say that you are quitting the game, and canceled your subscription.

And this is why AOC forums are screwed. They need to train the morons they have working on the boards. This guy is an idiot. Just think for a moment and you can see how if he really does believe what he says the forums are just going to remain a laughing stock.

He believes saying you cancelled your account is against the EULA because your not allowed to talk about your account. Your not allowed to say your leaving because your talking about your account.

if I say I subbed for a year and love he game then he would ban me because I am talking about my account. If I helped a guy with account problems and told him how I fixed mine he would ban me for talking about my account AND the guy asking for help, because its talking about his account.

If this guy honestly believes that talking about your account is wrong, then he should be named shamed and kicked from the mod team.

Originally posted by kazamx

Well, as a mod on the AoC forums, i can tell you it's against the Eula to post information about your account.  An example of this is to say that you are quitting the game, and canceled your subscription.

 

And this is why AOC forums are screwed. They need to train the morons they have working on the boards. This guy is an idiot. Just think for a moment and you can see how if he really does believe what he says the forums are just going to remain a laughing stock.

He believes saying you cancelled your account is against the EULA because your not allowed to talk about your account. Your not allowed to say your leaving because your talking about your account.

if I say I subbed for a year and love he game then he would ban me because I am talking about my account. If I helped a guy with account problems and told him how I fixed mine he would ban me for talking about my account AND the guy asking for help, because its talking about his account.

If this guy honestly believes that talking about your account is wrong, then he should be named shamed and kicked from the mod team.

Do you work in the Accounts department.? end of subject.

Originally posted by Dkevlar

Originally posted by Aguitha

 Maybe communism is accepted in Oslo, but not in the rest of world.

Peace.

 

Not it is not. But.. I lived in Norway for some time, but... I hope this is not going to offend any norwegian, since it is not my intention, but.. well.. norwegians have a special mentality, Most  of them are not that open to other views apart the ones they have and as foreigner there, working in and for their behalf, many times i found myself crashing on "stone walls" when trying to explain that certain simple concepts and perspectives while might be valid to norway, are not shared in equal fashion by everyone. 

and strangely I worked also in sweden .. and can say that is much more easier to engage in a conversation and exchange of ideias with the swedish .  

That would explain management

Originally posted by dancord26

Originally posted by Aguitha

On the AOC forum that is.   My brother who's been playing the game since launch hit 80 last week.

Since he hit 80 he found himself bored with the lack of content end game, so he decided to quit the game, not definitively, but for a while, until they add some end game content at least.

He went to the official forum and post a very intelligent post about the reasons why he was leaving and made suggestion what Funcom should do to improve the game.

His post was well written, polite, expressing it's tought about the game.  Well FC ban him from the forum for making a critic about the game.

I played this game about 2 weeks before quitting, my brothers stick to hit for some reasons, i just can't believe a company actiing like that.   To post any cristisism about the game earn you a ban from their forum.  I lost all respect i had for this company.  Maybe communism is accepted in Oslo, but not in the rest of world.

Peace.

 

Well, as a mod on the AoC forums, i can tell you it's against the Eula to post information about your account.  An example of this is to say that you are quitting the game, and canceled your subscription.

I am not sure if I should be impressed or laugh. Pretty ballsy though.
 

If I post that I have  a bug isnt that talking about my account?

Originally posted by Jokerkaaos

I've been watching those forums (I love a good train wreck...) and I was struck by the decision to appoint various players as moderators. In fact, it ALWAYS astounds me when a company does this.

A company running a multi-multi-million-dollar enterprise should take pains to make sure that their Public Faces (forum moderators, tech support personnel, etc.) are of the highest quality. They should use letter-perfect English in print and should be able to maintain a top-notch level of professionalism in all circumstances.

I encounter this in my work all the time - more "technically-minded" people (engineers, etc.) tend to have a certain disdain for the more liberal-arts educated. In short, they think writing and communicating are for English-major girls and they find customers to be nuisances.

In gaming, this typically manifests intself on the official forums. Devs think they know how to manage customer communication because they are smart and know the game. When they find out they don't know the first thing about dealing with customers, they either clam up or hire/appoint some intern or a bunch of "community leaders" to do this job for them.

This is a HUGE mistake, but I see it constantly. Any company with an investment of this size, dealing with millions of fickle customers in a highly competitive, highly public, highly-internet-discussed industry is harming themselves immeasurably by delegating the critical duties of communication and customer service to amateurs and fans on power trips.

The above post == "win";

Bad moderators for a bad game!

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This is got to be my fav. thread in the hole world lol.

Originally posted by Cabe2323

 

 

There are the rules for posting that everyone agrees to by posting on the forums.  In the rules it states Posting of any account details (especially "I've Cancelled") is prohibited.  Do not get mad at the moderators when they are following the rules that Funcom has in place.  (And has had in place since I think 2005 well before Age of Conan)  These are Funcom's rules for posting.  It isn't much different from other boards I have been to.  I don't know of a single company that allows posters to make posts about how they are leaving the game. 

then my friend you suffer from a severe case of shortsight. "Goodbye posts" are usual in most mmorpgs forum. I personally made a "i quit for  now" on wow forum, stating that i would be taking a break until WOTLK and it is still there after 2 months. Not only that but even got a humorist answer from the Community manager " it is always good to take some vacancies. See you maybe in 5 to 7 months " ( what means WOTLK would be coming around november or so). 

Even  on the "evil" SOE forums this post  are not unsual and allowed unless they present a clear provocation or insult.

I have to agree with the OP.  Funcom now has an agenda of silencing negative criticism for their game regardless of the facts.  I left the game myself, not because of the forum nazis, but because of the many overall flaws with the game and because of Funcom's lies to the public.  It's just not fun to ride on that bus any longer. 

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Moderation is not ever a topic for open forum. If you have any questions or feedback on moderation it should be addressed to the community manager or the specific moderator via private message.

For the record community Managers : Famine and Tarib don't even dare answer to PM.

Check my other posts and you'll see how a stupid moderation can lead an honest and polite player to... well have a look by yourself.

There are the rules for posting that everyone agrees to by posting on the forums.  In the rules it states Posting of any account details (especially "I've Cancelled") is prohibited.  Do not get mad at the moderators when they are following the rules that Funcom has in place.  (And has had in place since I think 2005 well before Age of Conan)  These are Funcom's rules for posting.  It isn't much different from other boards I have been to.  I don't know of a single company that allows posters to make posts about how they are leaving the game. 

Well then, I tell you which single company that allows (or most of the time: simply don't give a damn) you (at least me) to post 'I quit' threads: that's Blizzard.

I have made one when Priest was nerfed~ I posted in the main thread w/ a screenshot of my cancellation -- and nothing happens to me or my account. I actually resubscribed when they softened the nerf.

If AoC is so good, you don't need moderator to close threads -- your own players will shoot down people who quits. Have you been to WoW forums ? People are making quit posts on hourly basis, and here's how the conversation normally goes:

Quitter: "I quit. Blizzard sux."
Random Poster1: "Can I have your stuff, please ?"
Random Poster2: "Don't let the door hits you."
Random Poster3: "QQ MOAR"

Funcom, you're having a problem, and people just voice their concern -- instead, you're trying even harder to fail by opting to shoot the messenger rather than addressing the real issue.

Do a proper damage control: admit there are issues w/ the game and you're working hard to fix them. Your customers are not your enemy~ congrats Funcom: you've unlocked the achievement "Burning the Bridge".

Originally posted by Dkevlar

Originally posted by Aguitha

 Maybe communism is accepted in Oslo, but not in the rest of world.

Peace.

 

Not it is not. But.. I lived in Norway for some time, but... I hope this is not going to offend any norwegian, since it is not my intention, but.. well.. norwegians have a special mentality, Most  of them are not that open to other views apart the ones they have and as foreigner there, working in and for their behalf, many times i found myself crashing on "stone walls" when trying to explain that certain simple concepts and perspectives while might be valid to norway, are not shared in equal fashion by everyone. 

and strangely I worked also in sweden .. and can say that is much more easier to engage in a conversation and exchange of ideias with the swedish .  

This kind of post doesnt belong on a MMORPG forum....

Yes, Im Norwegian

Originally posted by Dkevlar

Originally posted by Aguitha

 Maybe communism is accepted in Oslo, but not in the rest of world.

Peace.

 

Not it is not. But.. I lived in Norway for some time, but... I hope this is not going to offend any norwegian, since it is not my intention, but.. well.. norwegians have a special mentality, Most  of them are not that open to other views apart the ones they have and as foreigner there, working in and for their behalf, many times i found myself crashing on "stone walls" when trying to explain that certain simple concepts and perspectives while might be valid to norway, are not shared in equal fashion by everyone. 

and strangely I worked also in sweden .. and can say that is much more easier to engage in a conversation and exchange of ideias with the swedish .  

Yay glad to hear you like the swedish^^

Originally posted by BesCirga

Originally posted by Dkevlar

Originally posted by Aguitha

 Maybe communism is accepted in Oslo, but not in the rest of world.

Peace.

 

Not it is not. But.. I lived in Norway for some time, but... I hope this is not going to offend any norwegian, since it is not my intention, but.. well.. norwegians have a special mentality, Most  of them are not that open to other views apart the ones they have and as foreigner there, working in and for their behalf, many times i found myself crashing on "stone walls" when trying to explain that certain simple concepts and perspectives while might be valid to norway, are not shared in equal fashion by everyone. 

and strangely I worked also in sweden .. and can say that is much more easier to engage in a conversation and exchange of ideias with the swedish .  

 

This kind of post doesnt belong on a MMORPG forum....

Yes, Im Norwegian

didn't say it was a false statement either (couldn't resist)

The rules against the I'm cancelling bs means that funcom knew they had a piece of crap, and wanted to sell it anyway. Thats what that says to me.