General Discussion

Originally posted by Vendayn

Originally posted by BodyBuilder

So if you want to solo, why not play a single player RPG?  Just a suggestion.

I play MMO-RPGs for what the game was made for...

I understand that some days you don't want to group, and I've had many days like that... but usually 8-10 times things are just a lot more fun with real people.

Take Guild Wars for example... ever since Heros were introduced, it was next to impossible to group.  I didn't want to ever do PvE for the fact of people refusing all the time because a hero is easier.

 

MMOs were made to group? AC was one of the pioneers in MMOs (and one of the first 3d ones) and it was good solo AND plenty of groups back in prime time. And I don't want to play a single player RPG, every one I've played (yes including morrowind) I've gotten bored of in a couple weeks...its too lonely and no economy or anything.

Just because I don't play YOUR way doesn't mean I need to go play a single player rpg.

So bitter and hostle. 

Remember Meridian 59?   Or were you even born then?  Nonetheless.  I'm not holding a pistol to your head and demanding you to do anything... and yes, actually MMO-RPGs were made to play along with friends.  Why would a company spend so much time and money and put so much content in it, and then have someone spent $10-$15 a month and never play with anyone else?

I understand there are lone-wolves in every community. 

To each their own.  But haven't you noticed that usually the ones who do group, and the ones in guilds tend to have the better gear, etc?  Trust me... I have played many MMORPGs alone, and it sucks.  I'd rather stick nails in my eyes.

It says you're 19.  Meridian 59 was out in 1996, that was the first 3D MMORPG... 13 years ago you were 6...  So perhaps you really don't know much about MMORPGs.  Hmm.

Originally posted by BodyBuilder

Originally posted by Vendayn

Originally posted by BodyBuilder

So if you want to solo, why not play a single player RPG?  Just a suggestion.

I play MMO-RPGs for what the game was made for...

I understand that some days you don't want to group, and I've had many days like that... but usually 8-10 times things are just a lot more fun with real people.

Take Guild Wars for example... ever since Heros were introduced, it was next to impossible to group.  I didn't want to ever do PvE for the fact of people refusing all the time because a hero is easier.

 

MMOs were made to group? AC was one of the pioneers in MMOs (and one of the first 3d ones) and it was good solo AND plenty of groups back in prime time. And I don't want to play a single player RPG, every one I've played (yes including morrowind) I've gotten bored of in a couple weeks...its too lonely and no economy or anything.

Just because I don't play YOUR way doesn't mean I need to go play a single player rpg.

 

So bitter and hostle. 

Remember Merdien 59?   Or were you even born then?  Nonetheless.  I'm not holding a pistol to your head and demanding you to do anything... and yes, actually MMO-RPGs were made to play along with friends.  Why would a company spend so much time and money and put so much content in it, and then have someone spent $10-$15 a month and never play with anyone else?

I understand there are lone-wolves in every community. 

To each their own.  But haven't you noticed that usually the ones who do group, and the ones in guilds tend to have the better gear, etc?  Trust me... I have played many MMORPGs alone, and it sucks.  I'd rather stick nails in my eyes.

That isn't to say I don't like grouping...in fact in WoW from 1-60 most of the time was actually spent grouping. I just hate being forced to do something...I like having freedom and having a choice.

and no, my first MMO was Asheron's Call. Where I had plenty of freedom and choices...I could get the best equipment solo or most often I found a group to get the best equipment...but again I had a choice

and sorry if it came out hostile (didn't mean for it to come out that way)...I like grouping, I don't like forced grouping.

Yeah I would. MMO games are about playing with other players online. If someone wants to constantly solo then perhaps mmos are not for them. 

Originally posted by SaintViktor

Yeah I would. MMO games are about playing with other players online. If someone wants to constantly solo then perhaps mmos are not for them. 

as stated...why can't I play a MMO and solo if I want to? I don't like single player rpgs, fps games and only like rts/strategy games once in awhile. I can play MMOs for hours and subscribe to it for a long time, single player games its lucky to even see a week.

Originally posted by gillvane1

You could access all the content, and get all the same gear,  but you'd have to level, and come back to lower level zones to do some of the dungeons solo to get the gear, etc.

 

DDO? RFO? CoX? You've not played many games by the sound of it. The problem you find is that forced grouping games bomb like hell. People are horrible creatures (when they want to be) so forcing people to interact with them is like throwing money out the window. WoW is successful because forced grouping is only at the very tip of end-game and offers substantial rewards for putting up with people :P

EQ & EQ2 are not forced grouping. In fact EQ2 is designed to give you talent points from doing the most unique quests.

Plus, even "solo" games there are still plenty of groups going on. So you can still group if you wanted to

Originally posted by Vendayn

Originally posted by SaintViktor

Yeah I would. MMO games are about playing with other players online. If someone wants to constantly solo then perhaps mmos are not for them. 

 

as stated...why can't I play a MMO and solo if I want to? I don't like single player rpgs, fps games and only like rts/strategy games once in awhile. I can play MMOs for hours and subscribe to it for a long time, single player games its lucky to even see a week.

You can...  A lot do.

Just people tend to forget about the roots, and what MMO-RPG stands for. 

That's all.

I spend most of my time soloing. It gets too chaotic in groups for me. And I like to log in and out of games frequently. You always feel obliged to stay online when grouping.