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  shamall

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7/24/08 2:17:49 AM#1

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So now we have a former Apollo astronaut coming out and saying that yes, the earth has been visited by aliens.  I'm just wondering what its going to take for people to start taking this seriously.

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  Malall

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McCain! where did he find his latest trollop.

7/24/08 2:36:31 AM#2

People don`t want to take it seriously because it represents change. Imagine the chaos it would create if  people were shown the real truth.

From the interview it`s obvious that these beings are very advanced and could wipe us out at any moment.

  User Deleted
7/24/08 7:11:32 AM#3

Ive met one. Spent the night with her.

(Im now having her babies!)

  Teala

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7/24/08 11:16:33 AM#4

Oh...I thought this was about the new x-files movie.   No I do not believe that ET's that have visited here.  If they had they would have recognized that our species would be to dangerous to allow to get off this rock and they would have wiped us out.

  DailyBuzz

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7/24/08 11:45:15 AM#5

There is an alarming amount of people who do not believe dinosaurs walked the Earth.

So, no, a lot of people don't want to believe, even when there's quantifiable evidence.

  Jackcolt

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7/24/08 12:46:05 PM#6

Why the fuck does everyone assume that Aliens are far more technologically advanced than us? Because they have big heads and little frames?

And how can an astronaut asses that a foreign species who has visited us a couple of times, have the capability to wipe us out?

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  Wolfenpride

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7/24/08 1:06:26 PM#7

Eh, I personally believe plenty of ET's have visited us, for what reasons? No one can say, movies like to stress they're plotting to destroy humanity and such.

What if they're actually protecting us from unknown dangers of the universe? Perhaps forces our technology can't detect, watching us to make sure we're alright. Heck maybe they're on a patrol route that passes through earth or something :P

I personally believe if their are ET's traveling the universe, they've probably come across many other species, and have developed certain guidelines I guess as far as interacting with new species, or maybe they just don't think we're worth coming into contact with, kind of like watching animals in a park or a zoo. Maybe they think we're to dangerous or hostile to try and make contact, who knows.

I believe this mr. astronaut, im assuming he talks with important government peeps who would know stuff about this.

  HYPERI0N

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7/24/08 1:15:50 PM#8
Originally posted by Jackcolt

Why the fuck does everyone assume that Aliens are far more technologically advanced than us? Because they have big heads and little frames?

And how can an astronaut asses that a foreign species who has visited us a couple of times, have the capability to wipe us out?

 

Err because a species that can realistically transvers the galaxy to reach us [several times allegidly] will be a LOT more technically advanced than someone who can barly get a few people to attend a 3 day trip to the moon.

 

Also they will have space superioraty when it comes to attacking us becuase they can just launch projectiles from deep space at any target on Earth and there is nothing we can do to stop them, because once again we can barely leave Earth's atmosphere.

Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981

  Zerocool032

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7/24/08 1:31:47 PM#9

lol whoever already doesn't believe in the ufo phenomena is extremely nieve.  Theres more documentation for the phenomena than the holocaust

  Zerocool032

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7/24/08 1:33:40 PM#10
Originally posted by Teala

Oh...I thought this was about the new x-files movie.   No I do not believe that ET's that have visited here.  If they had they would have recognized that our species would be to dangerous to allow to get off this rock and they would have wiped us out.

 

lol

The disk shaped ufo phenomena has been around since ancient times.  Im sure if they wanted to do anything they would of done it a LONG time ago.  And all the reports on aliens are non hostile.

Were barbaric compared to them. (except in looks :D)

  Zerocool032

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7/24/08 1:38:05 PM#11
Originally posted by Jackcolt

Why the fuck does everyone assume that Aliens are far more technologically advanced than us? Because they have big heads and little frames?

And how can an astronaut asses that a foreign species who has visited us a couple of times, have the capability to wipe us out?

 

Because they have mastered interplanetary travel and anti gravity

Because we have enough nukes to blow up the surface of the earth 15 some odd times.  Imagine what they have.

  Teala

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"Really officer, they're herbs."

7/24/08 1:47:35 PM#12

OK..repeat after me.  There is no such thing as boogy men, little green men, big foots, leprachauns, lockness monsters, ghost and goblins, etc, etc.....   Sorry.   The exist in our minds...just like God.   Mere figments of our imaginations.   

  Zerocool032

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7/24/08 1:51:40 PM#13
Originally posted by Teala

OK..repeat after me.  There is no such thing as boogy men, little green men, big foots, leprachauns, lockness monsters, ghost and goblins, etc, etc.....   Sorry.   The exist in our minds...just like God.   Mere figments of our imaginations.   

 

lol everything exists in our mind.  Even ourselves

A monk who committed suicide by setting himself on fire.  Didn't move a muscle, just sat there.

Even physicist will tell you reality is an illusion.

  Teala

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"Really officer, they're herbs."

7/24/08 1:54:15 PM#14
Originally posted by Zerocool032
Originally posted by Teala

OK..repeat after me.  There is no such thing as boogy men, little green men, big foots, leprachauns, lockness monsters, ghost and goblins, etc, etc.....   Sorry.   The exist in our minds...just like God.   Mere figments of our imaginations.   

 

lol everything exists in our mind.  Even ourselves

A monk who committed suicide by setting himself on fire.  Didn't move a muscle, just sat there.

Even physicist will tell you reality is an illusion.


 

Why would he do this?  What a painful way to go.   I can think of better ways to off myself that are less messy and less painful. 

  Zerocool032

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7/24/08 2:04:06 PM#15
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Zerocool032
Originally posted by Teala

OK..repeat after me.  There is no such thing as boogy men, little green men, big foots, leprachauns, lockness monsters, ghost and goblins, etc, etc.....   Sorry.   The exist in our minds...just like God.   Mere figments of our imaginations.   

 

lol everything exists in our mind.  Even ourselves

A monk who committed suicide by setting himself on fire.  Didn't move a muscle, just sat there.

Even physicist will tell you reality is an illusion.


 

Why would he do this?  What a painful way to go.   I can think of better ways to off myself that are less messy and less painful. 

 

He was protesting the war.  And he isnt moving because he doesnt feel pain.  He's a professional meditator, he isnt inside his body.

  User Deleted
7/24/08 2:10:27 PM#16

Ok, if you do the math it's more or less impossible for there NOT to be other intellegent life out there HOWEVER the likely hood of another species surviving to the point it could travel interstellar space is pretty low. (take us for example...we are either going to roast ourselves inside our own atmosphere or incinerate one another in thermo nuclear fire) (Carl Sagan worked it out once)

Now assuming one of these "advanced" species could even find us, the galaxy is a bit large...Hmmm well what would be the point of NOT contacting us? The amount of resources it would take to get here would make it pure insanity not to.

If the object was to exploit something here on our world then they would be playing a dangerous game. One thing our species has demonstrated throughout its entire history is our unwavering capacity for war and destruction and our uncanny ability to adapt and survive in just about any environment. "I piddy da fools who mess wit us"

Or...they could be scared that we will go after all their alien chicks....but thats sorta disturbing to think about...I can see 3 rednecks and some aliens now........maybe they should leave us alone lol, would you contact us?

How long would it take our species to spread across this galaxy if we ever got our hands on FTL technology? There is a scary thought.

  Teala

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7/24/08 2:14:38 PM#17

Originally posted by Zerocool032
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Zerocool032
Originally posted by Teala

OK..repeat after me.  There is no such thing as boogy men, little green men, big foots, leprachauns, lockness monsters, ghost and goblins, etc, etc.....   Sorry.   The exist in our minds...just like God.   Mere figments of our imaginations.   

 

lol everything exists in our mind.  Even ourselves

A monk who committed suicide by setting himself on fire.  Didn't move a muscle, just sat there.

Even physicist will tell you reality is an illusion.


 

Why would he do this?  What a painful way to go.   I can think of better ways to off myself that are less messy and less painful. 

 

He was protesting the war.  And he isnt moving because he doesnt feel pain.  He's a professional meditator, he isnt inside his body.


 

Oh well...one less Darwin Award winner breathing air.   Cold statement?  Maybe...but his suicide accomplished nothing.

  Techleo

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Is it over yet...

7/24/08 3:11:43 PM#18

 Actually it accomplimed preciely what he set out to. He made a impression on people and that in and of itself is quite a powerful thing. Mind you we can go round and round over whether that matters...

  User Deleted
7/24/08 5:22:06 PM#19
Originally posted by Jackcolt

Why the fuck does everyone assume that Aliens are far more technologically advanced than us?


 

Because it would take faster to light travel or the ability to bend time space for the nearest inhabitants of the next star to visit us.

Last time I checked, Nasa hasn't really perfected this a whole lot...but  i could be wrong.

  shamall

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7/24/08 5:30:00 PM#20
Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by Zerocool032
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Zerocool032
Originally posted by Teala

OK..repeat after me.  There is no such thing as boogy men, little green men, big foots, leprachauns, lockness monsters, ghost and goblins, etc, etc.....   Sorry.   The exist in our minds...just like God.   Mere figments of our imaginations.   

 

lol everything exists in our mind.  Even ourselves

A monk who committed suicide by setting himself on fire.  Didn't move a muscle, just sat there.

Even physicist will tell you reality is an illusion.


 

Why would he do this?  What a painful way to go.   I can think of better ways to off myself that are less messy and less painful. 

 

He was protesting the war.  And he isnt moving because he doesnt feel pain.  He's a professional meditator, he isnt inside his body.


 

Oh well...one less Darwin Award winner breathing air.   Cold statement?  Maybe...but his suicide accomplished nothing.

 

No matter how small, his suicide did accomplish something or no one today would even know about it.

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