Darkfall

This is certainly one of the best statements I've seen arguing the validity of Darkfall after its 8 years now of hype and empty promises.

This statement was posted by 'COORS', so he certainly gets the credit.  Unfortunately, the thread in which he posted it has been locked.  (I don't see why, they allowed a much more aggressive and hotly debated thread about Mourning to go on for like 1500+ posts and never locked it up, but w/e)

Anyhow, any supporters of Darkfall, please respond in a mature manner to this post and try and actually defend your dream game against it please.

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I love the one line responses of pure FACTS as we know it, LOL!
What exactly WILL they have?
Let's see...
They don''t need open beta testing. In-house only. Fully tested and guaranteed bug free.
They don't need an official publisher.
They don't need a site to house their game servers and provide connectivity for an MMO.
They don't need to market their product and advertise. Publishers DON'T just distribute games. They MARKET them. Even if Aventurine isn't marketing their own product, the publisher would surely perform those tasks. That's what publishers do. So, where is the marketing?
They don't need to have ANY pre-order sales which would not only give them needed income BUT provide them with a GOOD estimate on the number of EXPECTED users. This would be a tremendous help in determining how many servers will be needed at launch.
They don't need ANY professional gaming sites to have a sneak peek or a "hands on" look at the game. This would mean FREE advertising. Now what company on the planet would shy away from this?
All I hear is, "They are doing it THEIR way."  

(Posted by 'COORS' from another thread)

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Classic.  Again, truth is always funny as hell.  I think that's why I always loved good ol' George Carlin.

quote here

makes that first part coor wrote untruthfull

I never said that public beta would be two weeks. I said several weeks. Public beta will be as long as it needs to be. We hope and we’re working hard so that it won’t need to be very long. The clan beta will likely be a stage of public beta. The announcement of launch within the year is an official company commitment and it’s not a guestimate. We’re making strides with publishing in the direction where we maintain full creative control on the game. 
 

They don't need an official publisher. I think Audio visual counts as a self publishing partner. or publisher in some of your guyses eye.  Av did say that they did make a deal with aventurine.  onther truthful thing from coor.

They don't need a site to house their game servers and provide connectivity for an MMO. I believe taso touched up on this already. dont you remember him talking about new server cluster.

They don't need to market their product and advertise.   they never said they wasnt going too. But why start yet? waste of money.

Originally posted by radlin

This is certainly one of the best statements I've seen arguing the validity of Darkfall after its 8 years now of hype and empty promises.

This statement was posted by 'COORS', so he certainly gets the credit.  Unfortunately, the thread in which he posted it has been locked.  (I don't see why, they allowed a much more aggressive and hotly debated thread about Mourning to go on for like 1500+ posts and never locked it up, but w/e)

Anyhow, any supporters of Darkfall, please respond in a mature manner to this post and try and actually defend your dream game against it please.

**--**--**--**

I love the one line responses of pure FACTS as we know it, LOL!
What exactly WILL they have?
Let's see...
They don''t need open beta testing. In-house only. Fully tested and guaranteed bug free.
They don't need an official publisher.
They don't need a site to house their game servers and provide connectivity for an MMO.
They don't need to market their product and advertise. Publishers DON'T just distribute games. They MARKET them. Even if Aventurine isn't marketing their own product, the publisher would surely perform those tasks. That's what publishers do. So, where is the marketing?
They don't need to have ANY pre-order sales which would not only give them needed income BUT provide them with a GOOD estimate on the number of EXPECTED users. This would be a tremendous help in determining how many servers will be needed at launch.
They don't need ANY professional gaming sites to have a sneak peek or a "hands on" look at the game. This would mean FREE advertising. Now what company on the planet would shy away from this?
All I hear is, "They are doing it THEIR way."

 

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Classic.  Again, truth is always funny as hell.  I think that's why I always loved good ol' George Carlin.

Can you blame them for not having an open-beta? The one of AoC was the biggest failure I've seen so far.
They do have a publisher.
Since when is a site needed to host a game? This isn't a web-bases game like Runescape.
It's obvious they don't need advertisement, forums are loaded with Darkfall posts, best advertising you can get.

from what I heard, they like a rebelling company. Doing it their way, not caring of what people think, there'll be people who like it if we do it right. Can't blame them neither. Press interviews usually end up with reporters trying to get the best of the interview, and twisting every word they say.

Honestly I don't care if it comes or not. If it does, good, I'm not going to play it. If it does, we finally have a way to get rid of die-hard PvP maniacs (yes, maniacs! They're even worse then the hardcore PvP'er ).

En maybe you could pull up quotes to dismiss the untruth of the op and coor? instead of what you wrote they dont listen

Originally posted by Xxeon

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makes that first part coor wrote untruthfull

I never said that public beta would be two weeks. I said several weeks. Public beta will be as long as it needs to be. We hope and we’re working hard so that it won’t need to be very long. The clan beta will likely be a stage of public beta. The announcement of launch within the year is an official company commitment and it’s not a guestimate. We’re making strides with publishing in the direction where we maintain full creative control on the game. 
 

They don't need an official publisher. I think Audio visual counts as a self publishing partner. or publisher in some of your guyses eye.  Av did say that they did make a deal with aventurine.  onther truthful thing from coor.

They don't need a site to house their game servers and provide connectivity for an MMO. I believe taso touched up on this already. dont you remember him talking about new server cluster.

They don't need to market their product and advertise.   they never said they wasnt going too. But why start yet? waste of money.

Tasos said this, Tasos said that. It's all hearsay.

When you have actual facts, instead of him blabbing, which is the only thing hes done for about 8 years or however long it's been, you can come back here and post them, and nobody will claim vapourware, until then...

This

Game

Does

Not

Exist.

What I think they meant in choosing the name Darkfall for their game, is whats happening to the MMO community now because of this supposed '"game".

They totally darkfalled us.

Originally posted by mrroboto40

Originally posted by Xxeon

quote here

makes that first part coor wrote untruthfull

I never said that public beta would be two weeks. I said several weeks. Public beta will be as long as it needs to be. We hope and we’re working hard so that it won’t need to be very long. The clan beta will likely be a stage of public beta. The announcement of launch within the year is an official company commitment and it’s not a guestimate. We’re making strides with publishing in the direction where we maintain full creative control on the game. 
 

They don't need an official publisher. I think Audio visual counts as a self publishing partner. or publisher in some of your guyses eye.  Av did say that they did make a deal with aventurine.  onther truthful thing from coor.

They don't need a site to house their game servers and provide connectivity for an MMO. I believe taso touched up on this already. dont you remember him talking about new server cluster.

They don't need to market their product and advertise.   they never said they wasnt going too. But why start yet? waste of money.

 

Tasos said this, Tasos said that. It's all hearsay.

When you have actual facts, instead of him blabbing, which is the only thing hes done for about 8 years or however long it's been, you can come back here and post them, and nobody will claim vapourware, until then...

This

Game

Does

Not

Exist.

 

What I think they meant in choosing the name Darkfall for their game, is whats happening to the MMO community now because of this supposed '"game".

They totally darkfalled us.

You say this you say that Its all hearsay see how it works?

Theres plenty of people saying it does exist sorry : /

really post some evidence. i have what taso is saying and  what Av is saying.

what do you have? .........

Originally posted by Xxeon

Originally posted by mrroboto40

Originally posted by Xxeon

quote here

makes that first part coor wrote untruthfull

I never said that public beta would be two weeks. I said several weeks. Public beta will be as long as it needs to be. We hope and we’re working hard so that it won’t need to be very long. The clan beta will likely be a stage of public beta. The announcement of launch within the year is an official company commitment and it’s not a guestimate. We’re making strides with publishing in the direction where we maintain full creative control on the game. 
 

They don't need an official publisher. I think Audio visual counts as a self publishing partner. or publisher in some of your guyses eye.  Av did say that they did make a deal with aventurine.  onther truthful thing from coor.

They don't need a site to house their game servers and provide connectivity for an MMO. I believe taso touched up on this already. dont you remember him talking about new server cluster.

They don't need to market their product and advertise.   they never said they wasnt going too. But why start yet? waste of money.

 

Tasos said this, Tasos said that. It's all hearsay.

When you have actual facts, instead of him blabbing, which is the only thing hes done for about 8 years or however long it's been, you can come back here and post them, and nobody will claim vapourware, until then...

This

Game

Does

Not

Exist.

 

What I think they meant in choosing the name Darkfall for their game, is whats happening to the MMO community now because of this supposed '"game".

They totally darkfalled us.

 

You say this you say that Its all hearsay see how it works?

Theres plenty of people saying it does exist sorry : /

Oh no?

Lots of people are very gullible.

And yes it is all hearsay, there is no factual evidence that this game exists, a few screenshots, 1 scenic video, a fan made movie, and Tasos some random Greek guy who has you all under a spell. Thats all thats backing your arguments.

You might want to read my whole post instead of just the first line.

EDIT: Want some evidence? Aventurine's website looks completely phony, I could have made that in 5 minutes, their job listings? Been there since last summer. Guess they really can't find someone to handle their beta situation.

You should really be the one providing evidence, the burden of proof is on you.

Originally posted by Xxeon

They don't need to market their product and advertise.   they never said they wasnt going too. But why start yet? waste of money.

Why start yet? - Well I'll tell you, they said their releasing the game in a few months so it kinda helps to advertise a game IF you are releasing it in a few months. Don't you think? or maybe their relying on fanbois to spread the word? lol