Darkfall

Originally posted by Gerec

Originally posted by Zorvan

Still waiting for that answer.

*Tick-Tock*...*Tick-Tock*.......

 

I'll take you up on it. My timetable though, is if there is no active beta OR solid release date by February 1st. I'll make my thread then. Deal?

Well I think thats fair. Improbly not going to follow it if they havent started playtesting by the end of the year at least.

Remember they are in private closed beta have been since end of 2007

Originally posted by COORS

Originally posted by zaxtor99

 

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Originally posted by Xxeon
A sign up date doesnt mean your somebody : /.
I tech wasnt saying you called him a nobody but someone else did that wants this gmae offen mmorpg.com too. Its much easyer to put you guys all in the same basket.

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{sigh}

Let me try ONE more time here.

 

You said that I came here stating non facts (lies) above.

A) Which points in my OP were lies? (non facts)

You copped out totally on my question "B". But please tell me which points I made in the OP here that were lies and non facts?? That's what I'm really curious about

- Zaxx

 

Zaxx...

These guys will NEVER answer a direct question. Never. Truth is... They have NO answers. Their responses are all exactly the same. They shout "TROLL!" and demean anyone who hasn't taken a sip of the coolaid.

All they have ever had is the word of an UNKNOWN individual named Tasos, period. And surprisingly, that seems to be ALL they need, LOL!

Meanwhile, back at the ranch.

Next week begins the month of August.

Still no announcement of beta. No official publisher. No deal with any site for direct downloads. No system even in place to "invite" people for beta we know of. No actual IN GAME footage of anything resembling the many, many features this game states are FULLY FUNCTIONAL and tested. No article in ANY legitimate gaming magazine. No PREVIEW by any gaming site. No presense at E3.

Wheh... Got tired typing there for a second.

This game "may" actually come out. But... Here's my point.

How can even the most moronic individual on the planet NOT question all of this?

 

Have i called you guys trolls? We are sick and tired of oyu guys saying things you have no idea or any proof what so ever.

I think everyone questions it but most of arent dumb enough to make assumptions and post them everytime df is mentioned.
 

August is when the articles are suppose to come. the VId will be in august. take achill pill please. your scarying me : (. Your not going to go suicidal are you?

Originally posted by Xxeon

Originally posted by zaxtor99

 

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Originally posted by Xxeon
I didnt mean to say you called taso a nobody i believe COOR. did ANd drac is the one stating Vets are always right. Your the one and drac thats wants it removed. for what reason. Because you tells the truths K yea right.


Supply facts please.

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OMFG. I give up on you.

You FAIL.

- Zaxx
 

I already given up on getting actuall facts from you coor catizone drac. Pol has gotten close but he doesnt have all the info needed to really back up the info he supplied. But hey at least i actully got you to give up.
 

This can only be one person.

It has to be the infamous DOWNTOEARTH...

I could be mistaken, but the poor grammer gives him away sometimes. LOL!

Originally posted by Xxeon

Dont get ahead of Your self
 

It might blow everything out of the water probly not in subs.

As long as taso is being fairly honest the game will do fine. and be a great mmorpg.

  Yes...honesty....that....

  If he is being honest, then apparently there are super programs that can beta test your game for you without needing a true beta.  These "super bots" can apparently mimic actual game play provided by actual players and even simulate all the many stupid things these players can do.  How in gods name that is even possible is beyond me....since running a SINGLE debugger program in the background ran AoC's performance into the ground.  I can't imagine what running even 5 bot programs at once would do.  Never you mind that for optimal results they would need around 10-50K computers running these bots one at a time.

  Sounds like a hell of a waste of money compared to simply paying for the upkeep of one, single, beta server for an open beta and a decent closed one.

  The game WON'T be fine.  Something as professedly deep as this game is supposed to be would need twice the testing as the garbage these rollercoaster MMO's give us.  What Tasos is telling us is that he requires LESS testing than games that have under 1/3 the content.  Sure, you can RELEASE a game off just that.....it sure as hell doesn't mean its going to be GOOD, though.

Originally posted by Gishgeron

Originally posted by Xxeon

Dont get ahead of Your self
 

It might blow everything out of the water probly not in subs.

As long as taso is being fairly honest the game will do fine. and be a great mmorpg.

 

  Yes...honesty....that....

 

  If he is being honest, then apparently there are super programs that can beta test your game for you without needing a true beta.  These "super bots" can apparently mimic actual game play provided by actual players and even simulate all the many stupid things these players can do.  How in gods name that is even possible is beyond me....since running a SINGLE debugger program in the background ran AoC's performance into the ground.  I can't imagine what running even 5 bot programs at once would do.  Never you mind that for optimal results they would need around 10-50K computers running these bots one at a time.

  Sounds like a hell of a waste of money compared to simply paying for the upkeep of one, single, beta server for an open beta and a decent closed one.

  The game WON'T be fine.  Something as professedly deep as this game is supposed to be would need twice the testing as the garbage these rollercoaster MMO's give us.  What Tasos is telling us is that he requires LESS testing than games that have under 1/3 the content.  Sure, you can RELEASE a game off just that.....it sure as hell doesn't mean its going to be GOOD, though.

I think your giving Df Ai to much credit. He said Helping. thats it dont make things up really.

Bots can stress a servr like real players. then the professional testers. find bugs that pop up Bots can find certain bugs but it pretty much has to be scripted.

You do remember Taso saying it will stay in playtesting as long as it needs to right? Meaning they wont release it if its not ready.

You guys really need to stop blowing what taso says way out of porportion.

Originally posted by Xxeon

Originally posted by COORS

Originally posted by zaxtor99

 

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Originally posted by Xxeon
A sign up date doesnt mean your somebody : /.
I tech wasnt saying you called him a nobody but someone else did that wants this gmae offen mmorpg.com too. Its much easyer to put you guys all in the same basket.

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{sigh}

Let me try ONE more time here.

 

You said that I came here stating non facts (lies) above.

A) Which points in my OP were lies? (non facts)

You copped out totally on my question "B". But please tell me which points I made in the OP here that were lies and non facts?? That's what I'm really curious about

- Zaxx

 

Zaxx...

These guys will NEVER answer a direct question. Never. Truth is... They have NO answers. Their responses are all exactly the same. They shout "TROLL!" and demean anyone who hasn't taken a sip of the coolaid.

All they have ever had is the word of an UNKNOWN individual named Tasos, period. And surprisingly, that seems to be ALL they need, LOL!

Meanwhile, back at the ranch.

Next week begins the month of August.

Still no announcement of beta. No official publisher. No deal with any site for direct downloads. No system even in place to "invite" people for beta we know of. No actual IN GAME footage of anything resembling the many, many features this game states are FULLY FUNCTIONAL and tested. No article in ANY legitimate gaming magazine. No PREVIEW by any gaming site. No presense at E3.

Wheh... Got tired typing there for a second.

This game "may" actually come out. But... Here's my point.

How can even the most moronic individual on the planet NOT question all of this?

 

Have i called you guys trolls? We are sick and tired of oyu guys saying things you have no idea or any proof what so ever.

I think everyone questions it but most of arent dumb enough to make assumptions and post them everytime df is mentioned.
 

August is when the articles are suppose to come. the VId will be in august. take achill pill please. your scarying me : (. Your not going to go suicidal are you?

I don't mind you disagreeing with me. BUT...

You never actually answer anything.

I put forth lots of items above to at least think about, haven't I? They are "legitimate" questions anyone would have regarding ANY title. They are NOT Darkfall specific.

But you NEVER answer any of those points, ever. Why not? Can you explain why a company with a game supposedly releasing in 5 months would have NONE of those items in place?

At least that would make for a decent discussion.

They are perfectly legitimate questions. You guys are supposedly defending the game but you don't respond with valid answers.

Originally posted by COORS

Originally posted by Xxeon

Originally posted by COORS

Originally posted by zaxtor99

 

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Originally posted by Xxeon
A sign up date doesnt mean your somebody : /.
I tech wasnt saying you called him a nobody but someone else did that wants this gmae offen mmorpg.com too. Its much easyer to put you guys all in the same basket.

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{sigh}

Let me try ONE more time here.

 

You said that I came here stating non facts (lies) above.

A) Which points in my OP were lies? (non facts)

You copped out totally on my question "B". But please tell me which points I made in the OP here that were lies and non facts?? That's what I'm really curious about

- Zaxx

 

Zaxx...

These guys will NEVER answer a direct question. Never. Truth is... They have NO answers. Their responses are all exactly the same. They shout "TROLL!" and demean anyone who hasn't taken a sip of the coolaid.

All they have ever had is the word of an UNKNOWN individual named Tasos, period. And surprisingly, that seems to be ALL they need, LOL!

Meanwhile, back at the ranch.

Next week begins the month of August.

Still no announcement of beta. No official publisher. No deal with any site for direct downloads. No system even in place to "invite" people for beta we know of. No actual IN GAME footage of anything resembling the many, many features this game states are FULLY FUNCTIONAL and tested. No article in ANY legitimate gaming magazine. No PREVIEW by any gaming site. No presense at E3.

Wheh... Got tired typing there for a second.

This game "may" actually come out. But... Here's my point.

How can even the most moronic individual on the planet NOT question all of this?

 

Have i called you guys trolls? We are sick and tired of oyu guys saying things you have no idea or any proof what so ever.

I think everyone questions it but most of arent dumb enough to make assumptions and post them everytime df is mentioned.
 

August is when the articles are suppose to come. the VId will be in august. take achill pill please. your scarying me : (. Your not going to go suicidal are you?

 

I don't mind you disagreeing with me. BUT...

You never actually answer anything.

I put forth lots of items above to at least think about, haven't I? They are "legitimate" questions anyone would have regarding ANY title. They are NOT Darkfall specific.

But you NEVER answer any of those points, ever. Why not? Can you explain why a company with a game supposedly releasing in 5 months would have NONE of those items in place?

At least that would make for a decent discussion.

They are perfectly legitimate questions. You guys are supposedly defending the game but you don't respond with valid answers.

How can i answer? I dont work at aven i dont know what goes on in there minds. Im telling you guys to take a chill pill.
 

All i know is having that stuff in place doesnt make a game. just look at aoc please just look : (.

I think aven is just trying to save as much money as possible. remember they are self publishing. so theyc ant be doing that suff and be paying people for nothing. think out side of the box please. its the only way you will understand aventurine.

Originally posted by Gerec

Originally posted by Zorvan

Still waiting for that answer.

*Tick-Tock*...*Tick-Tock*.......

 

I'll take you up on it. My timetable though, is if there is no active beta OR solid release date by February 1st. I'll make my thread then. Deal?

No way!

You can't keep changing the rules and "pushing" back the dates every month. That's exactly what's been going on for years now.

Several well known supporters had this very same agreement last January. You can look up the threads if you care to.

Aragon and Downtoearth stated that beta was beginning in 2nd quarter 2008 FOR ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY! Downtoearth CLAIMED to have (wink... wink...) inside information on this.

Most folks here, like Zorvan (I'm sure at least) would remember those statements.

Well... My point...

These dates have come and gone and still nothing. So you just can't keep pushing back the timetable to suit your arguments. Well, you can of course, but to what end?