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admriker4  7/21/08 4:12:50 PM

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  • So how are the current players taking the news of a KOTOR MMO ?

 

  • any discussion of a possible shutdown for SWG ?

 

  • Are forum posts being removed ? I havent seen much on their gameplay forum which is where most of the major posters go.

 

  • Any cancellations that you know of from players (yes its early but the game might seem pointless now with no future to play for) ?

 

 

Forum Poll

Within 3 months SWG will lose the following percent of remaining players

75% will leave
50% will leave
25% will leave
nobody leaves
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admriker4  7/21/08 4:17:14 PM

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There are a few posts in the general star wars (non-swg) forum. This one has over 51 pages already

 

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?&topic_id=705063

 
P3282  7/21/08 4:19:59 PM

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I vote for nobody leaves.. KOTOR is a game for Jedi only, SWG is already full of Jedi. So actually KOTOR already is a MMO. Its just called SWG.

 
Dkevlar  7/21/08 4:32:03 PM

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what is the logic of this question. assuming we have a great kotor game, perfect one in all aspects, it is still due to come. in. 1 year? 1 year and a half? 2 years?

So what is the reason that would make 50 or 75% of the players quit SWG in the next three months - or even any other MMO- for a game that will come in 15 or 20 months? oh wait lets all that play swg or any other mmo stop and play tetris for the next months...

if even the nge didnt shut down swg you really think an anouncement of a kotor game due to come in such long time will have such effect?

you really think that if bliizard anounced wow2 for 2010 . 50 or 75 % of current wow populace would leave? People knew AOC was coming... i didnt notice LOTRO, WOW, whatever losing even 25% of their players before (maybe even after) AOC was anounced.

but hey. we are talking about SWG.... when it comes to SWG any logic is throw away and everything serves as a throwing weapon.

 Save such poll for when KOTOR is close to release. then it might be pertinant. Right now it is more close to trolling than anything else.

 

 
Costanza420  7/21/08 4:43:41 PM

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Originally posted by admriker4

 

 

  • So how are the current players taking the news of a KOTOR MMO ? Very well. Most of the people I know are excited about it. The rest of them won't believe it's actually happening until they see the box on the shelves, since they're just cynical folks.

 

  • any discussion of a possible shutdown for SWG ? Nope. I think people are waiting for an official announcement before anything. Also, I think people want to make sure it's a TRUE MMO and not a NWN-like single player with an "MMO component."

 

  • Are forum posts being removed ? I havent seen much on their gameplay forum which is where most of the major posters go. They're getting moved to the General Star Wars board for the most part. The entire front page of the general SW forum is KOTOR threads.

 

  • Any cancellations that you know of from players (yes its early but the game might seem pointless now with no future to play for) ? No. I don't think anyone sees the point in canceling their SWG sub in preparation of a game that nobody has any idea what it is or when it comes out.

 

 

 

My answers in red.

 
admriker4  7/21/08 7:58:58 PM

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Originally posted by Dkevlar

what is the logic of this question. assuming we have a great kotor game, perfect one in all aspects, it is still due to come. in. 1 year? 1 year and a half? 2 years?

So what is the reason that would make 50 or 75% of the players quit SWG in the next three months - or even any other MMO- for a game that will come in 15 or 20 months? oh wait lets all that play swg or any other mmo stop and play tetris for the next months...

if even the nge didnt shut down swg you really think an anouncement of a kotor game due to come in such long time will have such effect?

you really think that if bliizard anounced wow2 for 2010 . 50 or 75 % of current wow populace would leave? People knew AOC was coming... i didnt notice LOTRO, WOW, whatever losing even 25% of their players before (maybe even after) AOC was anounced.

but hey. we are talking about SWG.... when it comes to SWG any logic is throw away and everything serves as a throwing weapon.

 Save such poll for when KOTOR is close to release. then it might be pertinant. Right now it is more close to trolling than anything else.

 


 

Its not so much that KOTOR itself would cause SWG players to cancel. Its the eventual shutdown of SWG.

What would be the point to mine the latest steel, run the factory, work on dungeon set pieces, etc if the game has a end date ? Are you really going to bother stockpiling the latest flora spawn or stock your vendors ?

Personally I think that 75% of the remaining players will immediately cancel once a shutdown date is announced. These players hate the current game and despise Sony. They only stuck it out on the slim hope of classic servers coming, a rollback, or a miracle fix to the game

SWG is nothing more than a chat room with some pvp mixed in. I doubt anyone will be left to turn out the lights and lock the door on the last day

 
Dkevlar  7/21/08 8:35:39 PM

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Originally posted by admriker4
Originally posted by Dkevlar

what is the logic of this question. assuming we have a great kotor game, perfect one in all aspects, it is still due to come. in. 1 year? 1 year and a half? 2 years?

So what is the reason that would make 50 or 75% of the players quit SWG in the next three months - or even any other MMO- for a game that will come in 15 or 20 months? oh wait lets all that play swg or any other mmo stop and play tetris for the next months...

if even the nge didnt shut down swg you really think an anouncement of a kotor game due to come in such long time will have such effect?

you really think that if bliizard anounced wow2 for 2010 . 50 or 75 % of current wow populace would leave? People knew AOC was coming... i didnt notice LOTRO, WOW, whatever losing even 25% of their players before (maybe even after) AOC was anounced.

but hey. we are talking about SWG.... when it comes to SWG any logic is throw away and everything serves as a throwing weapon.

 Save such poll for when KOTOR is close to release. then it might be pertinant. Right now it is more close to trolling than anything else.

 


 

Its not so much that KOTOR itself would cause SWG players to cancel. Its the eventual shutdown of SWG.

What would be the point to mine the latest steel, run the factory, work on dungeon set pieces, etc if the game has a end date ? Are you really going to bother stockpiling the latest flora spawn or stock your vendors ?

Personally I think that 75% of the remaining players will immediately cancel once a shutdown date is announced. These players hate the current game and despise Sony. They only stuck it out on the slim hope of classic servers coming, a rollback, or a miracle fix to the game

SWG is nothing more than a chat room with some pvp mixed in. I doubt anyone will be left to turn out the lights and lock the door on the last day

Even wrote something really pertinent. eventual shutdown. Eventual. You really think players that have been playing this game for 5 years- i am not one of them since i was away from game since 2005- will cease to play based on an eventual ...

NOw if you have SOE/LA saying we will shutdown SWG in 6 months  i can see people going away asap. If they say we will shut down SWg in  1 year... i doubt 75% will quit in 3 months, not even 50 %.... 25% maybe...

this people are pretty resiliant... most of them have incorporated SWG in their lifes to such extent that it become part of their daily routine,,, it is like asking them "you are going to die next year, will you stop living now?"

any way i think i'll stop my swg defense in this forum.. Mostly because i'm not even that much SWG hardcore, I know that SWG is, for me, just a buffer until WOTLK or WARHAMMER.  if i make a defense of SWG many times, it is not even because of the game, it is because of the people in it. There is some pretty decent human beings playing it. And on this forum there is a complete lack of respect for those beings. The objective here appears to be alienating the game and the ones that play it for ...most of them for a very long time.

None of the anti.swg crowd actually wins anything from getting or seeing SWG down, apart from somekind of sordid satisfaction, The guys that play it lose a lot.   

 

 

 
Jatwhal  7/22/08 1:32:41 AM

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Originally posted by admriker4
Originally posted by Dkevlar

what is the logic of this question. assuming we have a great kotor game, perfect one in all aspects, it is still due to come. in. 1 year? 1 year and a half? 2 years?

So what is the reason that would make 50 or 75% of the players quit SWG in the next three months - or even any other MMO- for a game that will come in 15 or 20 months? oh wait lets all that play swg or any other mmo stop and play tetris for the next months...

if even the nge didnt shut down swg you really think an anouncement of a kotor game due to come in such long time will have such effect?

you really think that if bliizard anounced wow2 for 2010 . 50 or 75 % of current wow populace would leave? People knew AOC was coming... i didnt notice LOTRO, WOW, whatever losing even 25% of their players before (maybe even after) AOC was anounced.

but hey. we are talking about SWG.... when it comes to SWG any logic is throw away and everything serves as a throwing weapon.

 Save such poll for when KOTOR is close to release. then it might be pertinant. Right now it is more close to trolling than anything else.

 


 

Personally I think that 75% of the remaining players will immediately cancel once a shutdown date is announced. These players hate the current game and despise Sony. They only stuck it out on the slim hope of classic servers coming, a rollback, or a miracle fix to the game

SWG is nothing more than a chat room with some pvp mixed in. I doubt anyone will be left to turn out the lights and lock the door on the last day


 

Wow you really need to step away from the I hate SWG/SOE crack pipe!

Wouldn't it stand to reason that the "current" players play because they enjoy it? 

Not many people continually pay for something they "despise", unless your that Angel dude that kept paying for a game that he hated so much, rofl.

No us SWG vets have been discussing this ingame and many are excited. After-all we're SW fans and gamers.

I think you Vet*H8rs are blinded by your rage against SOE.  

SWG will live unless LA pulls it from them. 

By your logic every medieval mmorpg that came out before AOC has been shutdown. I mean why would there be a need for more than one in the same genre?  They're all really basically the same just a little different art work.  Can you say EQ and EQ2 ?

I'm also not so sure about the financial aspect of them needing to shutdown.   They're running multiple games, EQ2 went through a server reduction merge and hasn't shutdown since... about 2 years ago?

Let's see now, many UO*h8rs (that's Ultima Online) have been claiming a UO shutdown now for about hrmmm 9 years 11 months.  I'm sure one day they'll be able to troll a forum somewhere and claim their "We WON" "We told you they'd shutdown" prize.

An SWG shutdown has no relevance to me as I like to play it and I log in when I can and feel like playing.

I'll keep doing that till they shut it down, whatever time-line that will be.

UO and SWG are the only 2 mmorpg's that I've continually played since they launched. 

I've beta'd many, bought the initial box on others but haven't been hooked by any of them past the free 30 days.

 

 

 
Slampig  7/22/08 1:38:19 AM

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but hey. we are talking about SWG.... when it comes to SWG any logic is throw away and everything serves as a throwing weapon.

 Save such poll for when KOTOR is close to release. then it might be pertinant. Right now it is more close to trolling than anything else."