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Fishermage  7/20/08 11:00:48 PM

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Originally posted by Costanza420

Originally posted by ArcAngel3

Originally posted by Fishermage

 



Originally posted by Costanza420


Originally posted by ArcAngel3
 
Also, man have you noticed the tremendous increase in "silence the vets" posts and comments since the announcement of the Bioware MMO?  Really seems to have stirred up a hornets' nest of SOE/SWG defenders.
 

 



 
No. I haven't.
You are seriously imagining things. Get off your cross -- you are not this persecuted class of gamer you claim to be.


 

Wow, right on cue.



Lol, well you must be right, there haven't been any silence the vet threads being posted recently at all (caution, don't read the title of this thread if you want to stick to your point of view--not you btw Fish, responding to the post above yours ^_^).
I've also just left three other threads with the same level of complaining about vets' complaining--ironically.  In my experience there are usually only one or two of those threads active on any given evening lol.
Anyways, I'm not sure what class you think I believe I'm a part of.  I don't feel particularly persecuted tbh--slightly defrauded a few years back maybe, but not persecuted.  I also don't take "you need to stop talking about how bad SOE is" comments as persecution.  Driving to work provides more persecution than this.
If they threatened me if I wouldn't stop using free speech, well then I'd feel persecuted, but that's never happened.
Freedom of expression is a good thing in my mind.  I wouldn't want to silence anyone who currently enjoys SWG for example.  Trying to silence people who disagree with you is kind of dictatorial isn't it?


You said "tremendous increase." There has been no "tremendous increase."


I'd say you are wrong, and there's been a tremendous increase of people attacking vets for the sake of attacking them, whining about whining, and just a general shrillness to the NGE fans' tone.

It's so much fun watching all this play out, although the hate is pretty sad.

 
Costanza420  7/20/08 11:05:18 PM

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Originally posted by Fishermage

 


Originally posted by Costanza420

Originally posted by ArcAngel3

Originally posted by Fishermage

 

 



Originally posted by Costanza420


Originally posted by ArcAngel3
 
Also, man have you noticed the tremendous increase in "silence the vets" posts and comments since the announcement of the Bioware MMO?  Really seems to have stirred up a hornets' nest of SOE/SWG defenders.
 

 

 



 
No. I haven't.
You are seriously imagining things. Get off your cross -- you are not this persecuted class of gamer you claim to be.


 

 

Wow, right on cue.



Lol, well you must be right, there haven't been any silence the vet threads being posted recently at all (caution, don't read the title of this thread if you want to stick to your point of view--not you btw Fish, responding to the post above yours ^_^).
I've also just left three other threads with the same level of complaining about vets' complaining--ironically.  In my experience there are usually only one or two of those threads active on any given evening lol.
Anyways, I'm not sure what class you think I believe I'm a part of.  I don't feel particularly persecuted tbh--slightly defrauded a few years back maybe, but not persecuted.  I also don't take "you need to stop talking about how bad SOE is" comments as persecution.  Driving to work provides more persecution than this.
If they threatened me if I wouldn't stop using free speech, well then I'd feel persecuted, but that's never happened.
Freedom of expression is a good thing in my mind.  I wouldn't want to silence anyone who currently enjoys SWG for example.  Trying to silence people who disagree with you is kind of dictatorial isn't it?


You said "tremendous increase." There has been no "tremendous increase."


I'd say you are wrong, and there's been a tremendous increase of people attacking vets for the sake of attacking them, whining about whining, and just a general shrillness to the NGE fans' tone.

 

It's so much fun watching all this play out, although the hate is pretty sad.

 

The persecution complex around here is stunning.

 
ArcAngel3  7/20/08 11:21:34 PM

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"I am altering the deal, pray I don''t alter it any further." (summary of SWG)

Originally posted by Costanza420
Originally posted by Fishermage

 


Originally posted by Costanza420

Originally posted by ArcAngel3

Originally posted by Fishermage

 

 



Originally posted by Costanza420


Originally posted by ArcAngel3
 
Also, man have you noticed the tremendous increase in "silence the vets" posts and comments since the announcement of the Bioware MMO?  Really seems to have stirred up a hornets' nest of SOE/SWG defenders.
 

 

 



 
No. I haven't.
You are seriously imagining things. Get off your cross -- you are not this persecuted class of gamer you claim to be.


 

 

Wow, right on cue.



Lol, well you must be right, there haven't been any silence the vet threads being posted recently at all (caution, don't read the title of this thread if you want to stick to your point of view--not you btw Fish, responding to the post above yours ^_^).
I've also just left three other threads with the same level of complaining about vets' complaining--ironically.  In my experience there are usually only one or two of those threads active on any given evening lol.
Anyways, I'm not sure what class you think I believe I'm a part of.  I don't feel particularly persecuted tbh--slightly defrauded a few years back maybe, but not persecuted.  I also don't take "you need to stop talking about how bad SOE is" comments as persecution.  Driving to work provides more persecution than this.
If they threatened me if I wouldn't stop using free speech, well then I'd feel persecuted, but that's never happened.
Freedom of expression is a good thing in my mind.  I wouldn't want to silence anyone who currently enjoys SWG for example.  Trying to silence people who disagree with you is kind of dictatorial isn't it?


You said "tremendous increase." There has been no "tremendous increase."


I'd say you are wrong, and there's been a tremendous increase of people attacking vets for the sake of attacking them, whining about whining, and just a general shrillness to the NGE fans' tone.

 

It's so much fun watching all this play out, although the hate is pretty sad.

 

The persecution complex around here is stunning.

I'm going to respect your right to evaluate the increase differently--really.  It's all good.  It seems like there's been more of those posts lately.  It's an observation.  My impression was that the increase has been "tremendous," but that's very subjective.  You might find another adjective more appropriate.  That's o.k. by me.

I also want to say to you, as I just said in another similar post, that I don't have anything against current players of SWG.  Also, some people may have a persecution complex, but many don't.  They're just vocal about what they thought was shady business practices.  They're vocal in support of current and past players of this particular MMO.  It's easy to lump all "disgruntled vets" into one category, but I really think that's not the way it is.

Also, I truly see all the bad feeling between the haves (those that have a game they enjoy) and the have nots (those that had theirs taken from them in an underhanded way) as being created not by the players, but by the corporate decision makers who wrongly thought that you can somehow increase revenue by alienating your current audience.  It's not your fault that these people made the decision, and it's not ours either.  The people that made the decision to swap one game for another in the middle of it are directly responsible for the schism this caused between players.

I'm sorry that you've felt put down by other players--those that lost something they valued.  If any anger was directed at you, I think it was misplaced.

 
mklinic  7/20/08 11:25:27 PM

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really! I mean, all these "SWG whine threads" are making it hard to see all the "AoC/WAR whine threads". Clearly, there is a mix up in priorities around here!

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The rich, the poor, the strong, the weak We share this place together.
And we pitch into help it die."
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bachanam  7/20/08 11:26:17 PM

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this is the bandwagon right? the one going to stupid town? cool, let me on.

lol, if you played swg in it's newborn and yet golden year, then complaining will forever be justified, if you didnt, then you'll never be seen as having a piece of ground to stand on by the self-proclaimed 'vets' but then again im sure it works vice versa

complain, dont complain, whine.. cheese?

this is so far beyond pointless, that it is pointNOTHING ....... that was almost as stupid as this thread

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Evilsam  7/21/08 12:22:26 AM

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SWG is gone..Fallen Earth is eagerly awaited http://fallenearth.com

Originally posted by Tenebroso

/signed in blood

 

i m so tired of these guys complaining and clogging the foruns with their tears and broken dreams. choose another game and move on people!

 

 

 

 

then what the hell are you doing here..Can you not understand what this forum is about ..??You choise to come here..

Opps..I'm sorry..I see now..your a troll

 
Fishermage  7/21/08 12:31:41 AM

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Originally posted by Costanza420

Originally posted by Fishermage

 



Originally posted by Costanza420


Originally posted by ArcAngel3


Originally posted by Fishermage
 
 


Originally posted by Costanza420


Originally posted by ArcAngel3
 
Also, man have you noticed the tremendous increase in "silence the vets" posts and comments since the announcement of the Bioware MMO?  Really seems to have stirred up a hornets' nest of SOE/SWG defenders.
 
 
 




 
No. I haven't.
You are seriously imagining things. Get off your cross -- you are not this persecuted class of gamer you claim to be.



 
 
Wow, right on cue.




Lol, well you must be right, there haven't been any silence the vet threads being posted recently at all (caution, don't read the title of this thread if you want to stick to your point of view--not you btw Fish, responding to the post above yours ^_^).
I've also just left three other threads with the same level of complaining about vets' complaining--ironically.  In my experience there are usually only one or two of those threads active on any given evening lol.
Anyways, I'm not sure what class you think I believe I'm a part of.  I don't feel particularly persecuted tbh--slightly defrauded a few years back maybe, but not persecuted.  I also don't take "you need to stop talking about how bad SOE is" comments as persecution.  Driving to work provides more persecution than this.
If they threatened me if I wouldn't stop using free speech, well then I'd feel persecuted, but that's never happened.
Freedom of expression is a good thing in my mind.  I wouldn't want to silence anyone who currently enjoys SWG for example.  Trying to silence people who disagree with you is kind of dictatorial isn't it?



You said "tremendous increase." There has been no "tremendous increase."


I'd say you are wrong, and there's been a tremendous increase of people attacking vets for the sake of attacking them, whining about whining, and just a general shrillness to the NGE fans' tone.
 
It's so much fun watching all this play out, although the hate is pretty sad.


 
The persecution complex around here is stunning.

Explain how what you see here is a "persecution complex?"

First, define your term. Then please demonstrate how where you see it, Then please how how it is "stunning."

 
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Originally posted by Fishermage

 




 

Explain how what you see here is a "persecution complex?"

First, define your term. Then please demonstrate how where you see it, Then please how how it is "stunning."

Did you just stutter ?

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Fishermage  7/21/08 12:37:01 AM