WAR (Warhammer Online)

Originally posted by Thekandy

 

And that's what it is all about, the evolution.
I think people are comparing games to WoW because that's a game most people know, and why shouldn't they?
WoW was what most games are aspiring to be, a huge success, groundbreaker if you will (Which i very much hope Warhammer Online will be too) you see, when people mention WoW it should not be taken as an insult even though the game is perceived as the worst mmo in history (gameplay wise). A few pages back someone was going all "Your arguments are null and void because you mentioned WoW" and that's just totally wrong.
Even though i mentioned WoW in this post i still want the game to succeed just as much as you do.
I accept the fact that my favorite class, the Choppa, had to be cut so the game could do better as a whole, i am thrilled about public quests, i can'y wait to explore and find some christmas quests, but most of all, i can't wait to rampage through the scenery as an orc, that my choices have been limited to black orc i'm still trying to deal with, but i'd much rather deal with it now than at the login page where i might have been so disappointed that i'd cancelled.

I have been a massive Warcraft fanboy in the past and still is to some extent, i were in the closed beta of WoW, i've watched my favorite class Warlock fall and rise anew in the buff and nerf war, but it has gotten old for me and even though i still like WoW i have moved on.
All this i tell you just so you know what kind off mmo-player you have before you: A former WoW-player.

All right i guess i'm rambling, all in all i say i'm very much excited for Warhammer Online cause by the sound of it i think we're dealing with a game that takes itself seriously and tries to be the best it can be.
See you in WAR, Waaaagh!
 

Hate to break it to you but warhammer is not really an evolution or even an advancement in MMO games.  Its just another partially finished game that is being released so as not to compete with the monster on the block. From a business standpoint there its good practice. From a consumer standpoint its bad for us.

AoC did the exact same thing, they went after the short term money, had a window that they could fit into and not have compition for a half baked game.

The content removal quite simply is EA's decision to not compete with the wow expansion, and try to suck up some sales. They really need another 4-6 months in development time, as the game needs alot of work at this point. Sadly it does not appear that WAR is going to get that badly needed time and monatary investment, which will create huge issues for the game 4-5 months after release.

The pattern has been repeated for most MMO's since WoW, and honestly most mmos are following the access to everyone design, which requires alot of content to prolong the games life for many.  There has yet to be one MMO release that really did what i would consider good, and probalby LOTRO was the best of the bunch,and look at the issues it has.

Whats really amusing is we gamers fall for it everytime, we all rush to defend these types of actions, then after the game releases, and we spend our hard earned money, everyone starts complaining about everythihng that isnt complete. Having seen the game frankly im not impressed at all in its current state. Hopefully they will get it together, but 2 months isnt enough time to do much, it just isnt.  If they release in september we will end up with another short term MMO that just caters to instant gratification, and has no depth.

Originally posted by aedn

 

Hate to break it to you but warhammer is not really an evolution or even an advancement in MMO games.  Its just another partially finished game that is being released so as not to compete with the monster on the block. From a business standpoint there its good practice. From a consumer standpoint its bad for us.

AoC did the exact same thing, they went after the short term money, had a window that they could fit into and not have compition for a half baked game.

The content removal quite simply is EA's decision to not compete with the wow expansion, and try to suck up some sales. They really need another 4-6 months in development time, as the game needs alot of work at this point. Sadly it does not appear that WAR is going to get that badly needed time and monatary investment, which will create huge issues for the game 4-5 months after release.

The pattern has been repeated for most MMO's since WoW, and honestly most mmos are following the access to everyone design, which requires alot of content to prolong the games life for many.  There has yet to be one MMO release that really did what i would consider good, and probalby LOTRO was the best of the bunch,and look at the issues it has.

Whats really amusing is we gamers fall for it everytime, we all rush to defend these types of actions, then after the game releases, and we spend our hard earned money, everyone starts complaining about everythihng that isnt complete. Having seen the game frankly im not impressed at all in its current state. Hopefully they will get it together, but 2 months isnt enough time to do much, it just isnt.  If they release in september we will end up with another short term MMO that just caters to instant gratification, and has no depth.

 

Hate to break it to you but you weren't around for WoWs launch so shut the hell up and stop acting like you know how to make a game because you play WoW.  Jackass.
 

Originally posted by aedn

Having seen the game frankly im not impressed at all in its current state. Hopefully they will get it together, but 2 months isnt enough time to do much, it just isnt.  If they release in september we will end up with another short term MMO that just caters to instant gratification, and has no depth.

Perhaps you could expand on this point?  Everything I have seen and heard leads me to believe it is fairly polished..  so Id like to know why you think this.

 I find your lack of faith, disturbing...

I'm for one is really looking forward to this game

I am still looking for a game good enough for me to play least 6-12 months. Warhammer is in my list but I don't like the race and class in this game. It is problem because if you dont like the race or class you created, how can you like the game. 

Hopefully, Warhammer will make the race or least the character look better.  

Originally posted by Tawn47

Originally posted by aedn

Having seen the game frankly im not impressed at all in its current state. Hopefully they will get it together, but 2 months isnt enough time to do much, it just isnt.  If they release in september we will end up with another short term MMO that just caters to instant gratification, and has no depth.

Perhaps you could expand on this point?  Everything I have seen and heard leads me to believe it is fairly polished..  so Id like to know why you think this.

Re-read this thread (if you can stomach it ) and you will find the answer you seek about polish if you can absorb the hints.

Also if content is being cut it means they are trying to catch up so the game could be polished at launch.  If the game was already polished they wouldn't consider cutting content out becuase that would not make any sense.

Many feel EA has very little influence but I find that hard to believe.  This is the same EA that decided to rush out Command and Conquer Generals, cut out portions of the game and re-package the cut out content in an expansion called Zero Hour.  All the content found in Zero Hour was originally was supposed to be part of Generals, and was a  core part of the game that was re-sold to the public out of EA's care for the consumer.

For the best long term possibility of the game (and an oppurtunity to stop this silly trend with rushed out MMORPG's) the game should be delayed.  I hope when the NDA is lifted those itching to share information with us will convey the same feelings. 

Originally posted by Hoplites

Originally posted by Tawn47

Originally posted by aedn

Having seen the game frankly im not impressed at all in its current state. Hopefully they will get it together, but 2 months isnt enough time to do much, it just isnt.  If they release in september we will end up with another short term MMO that just caters to instant gratification, and has no depth.

Perhaps you could expand on this point?  Everything I have seen and heard leads me to believe it is fairly polished..  so Id like to know why you think this.

 

Re-read this thread (if you can stomach it ) and you will find the answer you seek about polish if you can absorb the hints.

Also if content is being cut it means they are trying to catch up so the game could be polished at launch.  If the game was already polished they wouldn't consider cutting content out becuase that would not make any sense.

Many feel EA has very little influence but I find that hard to believe.  This is the same EA that decided to rush out Command and Conquer Generals, cut out portions of the game and re-package the cut out content in an expansion called Zero Hour.  All the content found in Zero Hour was originally was supposed to be part of Generals, and was a  core part of the game that was re-sold to the public out of EA's care for the consumer.

For the best long term possibility of the game (and an oppurtunity to stop this silly trend with rushed out MMORPG's) the game should be delayed.  I hope when the NDA is lifted those itching to share information with us will convey the same feelings. 

 

 

 

Wow...still beating the same dead horse Hop? The only thing I'm remotely concerned about is the lack of 2 tanks. But when your at a disadvantage you improvise, adapt, and overcome. Those 6 mega keeps they added will also make endgame a little more interesting.