Lord of the Rings Online

Originally posted by smitty0356

LOTR universe is a fantastic world to play in.  I have played this game for over a year now, and I can say that I have been very happy with the product, and it has made me think more of turbine as a company.

While it may seem dumb to say it has no room to grow considering we are barely out of eriador, I am talking more about the high-end gaming.  Players will always be fairly lame.  No great powers, no flashy mounts no epeens.  This is one of the big draws for me to this game, however, most players like the flaming swords and such that WOW brings to the table.

Also, the fact that LOTR is a battle of good and evil will never allow such a diverse PVP game that I think is a required part to all MMO's.

That being said, I think LOTRO will be around for about 5 years before all of it's content is done.... IF there are any players still sticking around.

In summary, it's a great game, with a great niche, but I think it will go the way of MxO before we ever see mordor.  If I'm wrong, send me a postcard from mordor.

In all honest I think the whole Good-vs-evil brings an awesome PVP idea to the game. The whole Monster Play is fantastic and provides a great way to balance PVP without making it affect PVE because they can just change Monster classes instead of the PVE classes! So it makes it fairly balanced.

Also I believe the whole "Your just another soldier" aspect is pretty appealing. It makes you feel like your living in Middle earth, your just another person. But yet you acclomplish amazing things in the story line..so I think that is pretty cool.

They have PLENTY of content to add to this game, they have years and years of content to add. If games like EQ, AC, UO are still around then LOTRO will be around for a very, very, very long time.

Originally posted by jarish

EA is not restricted like Turbine is. Theya have the rights to the movies not the books.

actually, not sure if you are aware of this (and excuse me if you are), but there is far, far more content in the books than the movies. if they one day choose to, there is an entire continent east, south, and north or mordor. the  story of the lotr trilogy (and the movies) follows a relativley smallarea of the northest/middle of this world. and since there isnt a huge amount of description of these lands, turbine may have more free reign to do what they like (in keeping with the 'feel' of middle earth, of course). the content could, inessence, be unlimited.

Originally posted by solareus

One thing that annoys me is that the new LotRO game that Battlefront game has an evil side, you can kkill Frodo as well and have the ring not destroyed and have a campaign of pure evil to destroy middle earth. Wondering why they where allowed that benefit...

I'm wondering if that game is successful, it will leave the door open for Turbine to say "hey we could do a CoV type game around 2010" then have major pvp fields like Helm deep and Gondor for players to battle ..

LOTR:Conquest. I have read about that. I really like the movie license models. I wish Turbine could use those. It looks to be pretty fun.

As to playing evil, most RTS based games do this, for example, the new Halo Wars allows players to be Covenant, Battle for Middle Earth had access to the evil campaign if you made certain progress in the Good Campaign.

Providing for the player to try their hand at playing the other side is good business. A lot of games that let you play as Evil has a good following. WoW and WAR for example.

I think it could be a boon to have PvP servers for LOTRO. Sure would notch up the danger quotient.

If and when Gondor is released, adding the ability to make Evil characters would be awesome.

Originally posted by openedge1

Originally posted by solareus

One thing that annoys me is that the new LotRO game that Battlefront game has an evil side, you can kkill Frodo as well and have the ring not destroyed and have a campaign of pure evil to destroy middle earth. Wondering why they where allowed that benefit...

I'm wondering if that game is successful, it will leave the door open for Turbine to say "hey we could do a CoV type game around 2010" then have major pvp fields like Helm deep and Gondor for players to battle ..

LOTR:Conquest. I have read about that. I really like the movie license models. I wish Turbine could use those. It looks to be pretty fun.

As to playing evil, most RTS based games do this, for example, the new Halo Wars allows players to be Covenant, Battle for Middle Earth had access to the evil campaign if you made certain progress in the Good Campaign.

Providing for the player to try their hand at playing the other side is good business. A lot of games that let you play as Evil has a good following. WoW and WAR for example.

I think it could be a boon to have PvP servers for LOTRO. Sure would notch up the danger quotient.

If and when Gondor is released, adding the ability to make Evil characters would be awesome.

Actually there is no real evil side to WOW. If you ask either side the other is the evil side to them. Basically the true evil side in WOW is the burning legion under the linch king and they are not playable in WOW. The evil side in LOTRO can be compared to the burning legion. They both are subject to their master and not given the freedoms to do as they please.

I think alot of people are just missing that LOTRO is a PVE focused game. It was from its original design and it will always be a PVE focused game. PVP is and always be a secondary thought and treated as such.

If you want a solid PVP game then LOTRO is more then likely not your game and never will be. If you want a solid PVE game that runs over-top of just about every other MMO out there in PVE content and storyline, then LOTRO is for you. PVMP is awesome as it is, theres loads of fun to be had out there and the keep and hotspot caping can be alot of fun with loads of people come out. On Firefoot its not uncommon to have two full raids on each side out fighting over the points in the afternoon hours.

I doubt and hope that Turbine never trys to add a forced PVP section onto the game. Rather it be a PVP server or adding a monster race that you actualy play and level up. It would take away from what the game has been building up from the beginning.

If you want more the PVMP then find a new game to play. Don't try and change a solid fun, great PVE game because you want it to be something its not.

Maybe another company will make a PVP focused LOTRO someday. But its not this LOTRO and according to the devs theres no plans to ever change that.

LOTRO is a fun, focused, story based PVE experience. If you are not looking for that then I am sorry but there are more then enough OTHER PVP focused games for you to sink your teeth into. Leave our little GEM in the rough here alone!

Originally posted by openedge1

Originally posted by solareus

One thing that annoys me is that the new LotRO game that Battlefront game has an evil side, you can kkill Frodo as well and have the ring not destroyed and have a campaign of pure evil to destroy middle earth. Wondering why they where allowed that benefit...

I'm wondering if that game is successful, it will leave the door open for Turbine to say "hey we could do a CoV type game around 2010" then have major pvp fields like Helm deep and Gondor for players to battle ..

LOTR:Conquest. I have read about that. I really like the movie license models. I wish Turbine could use those. It looks to be pretty fun.

As to playing evil, most RTS based games do this, for example, the new Halo Wars allows players to be Covenant, Battle for Middle Earth had access to the evil campaign if you made certain progress in the Good Campaign.

Providing for the player to try their hand at playing the other side is good business. A lot of games that let you play as Evil has a good following. WoW and WAR for example.

I think it could be a boon to have PvP servers for LOTRO. Sure would notch up the danger quotient.

If and when Gondor is released, adding the ability to make Evil characters would be awesome.

It's my understanding that the covenant will not have an offline campaign in Halo wars (though I'd like to see that as well).  They will be playable, but only against other players (mainly in online matches).  I also wouldn't call the horde "evil" in WoW, with the possible exception of the Undead and Bloodelves.  Tauren, Orcs, and Trolls certainly aren't.

WAR on the other hand, does have a lot of races that are well and trully evil.  I'm very much looking forward to what Mythic does with them.

Originally posted by Yeebo

Originally posted by openedge1

Originally posted by solareus

One thing that annoys me is that the new LotRO game that Battlefront game has an evil side, you can kkill Frodo as well and have the ring not destroyed and have a campaign of pure evil to destroy middle earth. Wondering why they where allowed that benefit...

I'm wondering if that game is successful, it will leave the door open for Turbine to say "hey we could do a CoV type game around 2010" then have major pvp fields like Helm deep and Gondor for players to battle ..

LOTR:Conquest. I have read about that. I really like the movie license models. I wish Turbine could use those. It looks to be pretty fun.

As to playing evil, most RTS based games do this, for example, the new Halo Wars allows players to be Covenant, Battle for Middle Earth had access to the evil campaign if you made certain progress in the Good Campaign.

Providing for the player to try their hand at playing the other side is good business. A lot of games that let you play as Evil has a good following. WoW and WAR for example.

I think it could be a boon to have PvP servers for LOTRO. Sure would notch up the danger quotient.

If and when Gondor is released, adding the ability to make Evil characters would be awesome.

It's my understanding that the covenant will not have an offline campaign in Halo wars (though I'd like to see that as well).  They will be playable, but only against other players (mainly in online matches).  I also wouldn't call the horde "evil" in WoW, with the possible exception of the Undead and Bloodelves.  Tauren, Orcs, and Trolls certainly aren't.

WAR on the other hand, does have a lot of races that are well and trully evil.  I'm very much looking forward to what Mythic does with them.

 

Yes, I had read about Covenant being in Multiplayer only. Fits the discussion well.

Yah, hard to remember the "Misunderstood ways" of Orcs, etc in WoW...lol. I mean, really, us Humans think we are the only race.

I guess we can look at Orcs maybe in the sense of Dungeons and Dragons, in so much as they are usually Neutral alignments, and can lean toward evil. Of course in Tolkien sense they are TRUE evil. Or Trolls...which have NEVER been a good race or portrayed as much (unless we have some anecdotal evidence otherwise)...so yes, it is hard to remember in WoW they are the "misunderstood" types.

WAR is indeed...not true good and evil either...more LAW and CHAOS which defines another arena altogether. But, still speaks opposition.

All it really boils down to is choice. A lot of games push us toward good all the time (Guild Wars, LOTRO), or specific races (human, elf, etc...Lineage 2)...yet, more success is in opposition of REAL human players.

PvMp is nice as it adds the mini game, and a little "what if" to LOTRO, but having access to real PvP may be more enjoyable to some. There is a big enough audience both ways. People could have their RP, PvE or PvP.

Thoughts?

Originally posted by openedge1

Originally posted by Yeebo

Originally posted by openedge1

Originally posted by solareus

One thing that annoys me is that the new LotRO game that Battlefront game has an evil side, you can kkill Frodo as well and have the ring not destroyed and have a campaign of pure evil to destroy middle earth. Wondering why they where allowed that benefit...

I'm wondering if that game is successful, it will leave the door open for Turbine to say "hey we could do a CoV type game around 2010" then have major pvp fields like Helm deep and Gondor for players to battle ..

LOTR:Conquest. I have read about that. I really like the movie license models. I wish Turbine could use those. It looks to be pretty fun.

As to playing evil, most RTS based games do this, for example, the new Halo Wars allows players to be Covenant, Battle for Middle Earth had access to the evil campaign if you made certain progress in the Good Campaign.

Providing for the player to try their hand at playing the other side is good business. A lot of games that let you play as Evil has a good following. WoW and WAR for example.

I think it could be a boon to have PvP servers for LOTRO. Sure would notch up the danger quotient.

If and when Gondor is released, adding the ability to make Evil characters would be awesome.

It's my understanding that the covenant will not have an offline campaign in Halo wars (though I'd like to see that as well).  They will be playable, but only against other players (mainly in online matches).  I also wouldn't call the horde "evil" in WoW, with the possible exception of the Undead and Bloodelves.  Tauren, Orcs, and Trolls certainly aren't.

WAR on the other hand, does have a lot of races that are well and trully evil.  I'm very much looking forward to what Mythic does with them.

 

Yes, I had read about Covenant being in Multiplayer only. Fits the discussion well.

Yah, hard to remember the "Misunderstood ways" of Orcs, etc in WoW...lol. I mean, really, us Humans think we are the only race.

I guess we can look at Orcs maybe in the sense of Dungeons and D