Star Wars Galaxies

Originally posted by Vortex500

" remember n00bs: DON'T HIT THE LAIR IF CRITTERS ARE OUT " is by far the best sentence in this collection of text. lol

Ha, that reminded me of my first day or so.  I was still getting used to the UI and just exploring around Corellia.  I see this rock I can interact with, me being the bold noob explorer decide to click it a few times to see what happens.  Suddenly these mobs that were previously ignoring me start attacking.  Needless to say I ran for my life.  I don't remember if I died or not, but that sentence reminded me of that. 

SWG was my first MMO, and I'm constantly torn between wishing I'd never played it to I'm glad I at least got a taste of what my idea an MMO should be.  Good stuff.

I really loved the first time I got into my ship.  Very "Star Warsy" moment for me, the first "Star Warsy" moment would be the very first time I logged into the game, and I heard all these weird alien voices around me - wookies, rodians, etc.  and once I was taught all the languages, the noises vanished.  Possibly the first time I felt some of the immersion was gone. 

I'm probably in the minority when I think that Jedi should have never been included in the game, given the time frame we were supposed to be in.  But then the time-line got perverted with prequel era stuff, which I guess you could argue were collectors items/relics by this time in the Star Wars time-line.  It started feeling like I was more in the prequel era than in the original trilogy. 

Anyone remember during the Cries of Alderaan story on Ahazi, the Imperials were winning - but then the devs make a server wide announcement that the rebels were behind, promptly kicking the rebels into gear and having them win.  That caused one huge uproar at the time, since it seemed the devs always catered to the rebs. 

Originally posted by ColonelCade

I'm probably in the minority when I think that Jedi should have never been included in the game, given the time frame we were supposed to be in.  But then the time-line got perverted with prequel era stuff, which I guess you could argue were collectors items/relics by this time in the Star Wars time-line.  It started feeling like I was more in the prequel era than in the original trilogy. 

I don't know if you're in the minority as well, but I totally agree with you on all of this.

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Originally posted by Suvroc

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Originally posted by ColonelCade

I'm probably in the minority when I think that Jedi should have never been included in the game, given the time frame we were supposed to be in.  But then the time-line got perverted with prequel era stuff, which I guess you could argue were collectors items/relics by this time in the Star Wars time-line.  It started feeling like I was more in the prequel era than in the original trilogy. 

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I don't know if you're in the minority as well, but I totally agree with you on all of this.

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Most of the material in the Empire period is prequal material -- the Millenium falcon, the droids, Chewbacca, Yoda, Uncle Owen, Obi-wan, and so on -- they are all part of the prequel era, they are just about twenty years older.

The fact is, the Empire represents a civilization in decline, and the Old Republic a better time, the last gasp of a golden age. Mostly only a few military things have advanced, and the lack of freedom has slowed much down.

George Lucas intentionally wanted to create a "used universe" where most of the older things are better thannewer things. Therefore it is no problem to incorporate Old Republic technology and items that are better than their modern counterparts.

We currently live in a universe where many people own cars, trucks, guns, and other items that are over twenty years old, and that is in a free society where consumer technology is improving at an exponential rate. In unfree societies, like Cuba for instance, people still drive cars from the fifties.

The Imperial decline fits more in line with that point of view, and as such it makes sense. Such things are standard in dystopic sci-fi/fantasy, which star wars certainly is a part of. Young person grows up in a dark, declining society, finds some item from a former Golden Age (daddy's Lightsaber?) that is superior to what is more modern.

The Jedi thing doesn't work however, because we KNOW they should be rare in the time period.

Originally posted by ColonelCade

I'm probably in the minority when I think that Jedi should have never been included in the game, given the time frame we were supposed to be in.  But then the time-line got perverted with prequel era stuff, which I guess you could argue were collectors items/relics by this time in the Star Wars time-line.  It started feeling like I was more in the prequel era than in the original trilogy. 

Anyone remember during the Cries of Alderaan story on Ahazi, the Imperials were winning - but then the devs make a server wide announcement that the rebels were behind, promptly kicking the rebels into gear and having them win.  That caused one huge uproar at the time, since it seemed the devs always catered to the rebs. 

I agree that Jedi shouldn't have been included in the game.  Take that right off the table and a large factor that lead to the downfall of the game, hologrinding, wouldn't have been there.  The alternative would have been perhaps a round robin of sorts.  .2% of accounts, at any given time, have a Jedi slot active.  You can create a Jedi and skill him up but if you die, you lose it and it goes on to another account.  This would have made players keep their Jedi hidden because it would be unlikely they'd get a slot again and created a strong incentive for players to hunt them down and kill them because, who knows, if you kill a Jedi you just may get the chance to create one.

I do remember the big uproar caused by the devs telling people who were winning.  It was silly for them to say who was winning, especially when it was by those slim margins and when players had been clammoring that they favored the rebs before they announced who was winning.  Way to go and solidify people's opinions.

Great post Vortex!

Nice with all the old stuff. A great memory lane. Yeah I sometimes miss it. But I play SWG on and off these days too.

I have a main who is a weaponsmith(yeah I know ..it have been really hard times for us since the NGE) and a entertainer alt. These are the things that draws me to this game. To have the choice to play as a non-combatant (I dont count my Ent as one) and still have a fun time. Right after the NGE was a terrible time for us with a more social approach to the game, but slowly it has gotten better. But in no way comparable to the social activity during the Pre-NGE era.

SWG is like a poison, I quit and try other games but I cant find a substitute for SWG. Sure I have the bitterness after losing almost all my clients and friends after the NGE too, but still I cant stop feeling that the potential are there. Its really hard to motivate myself to pay money to a company that ruined so much for so many people including me... but its like a drug.

The day another game is on the market with the crafting and social approach of SWG I will jump the ship. Sadly it doesnt seem to be any within any decent time into the future.

I have had a ½ year break now from SWG, but Im using the trial right now. I read something about a revamp to how WS builds weapons, guess I will give it a shot when it goes live. GU5 the update is called. Maybe another disappointment like the last "Trader revamp".

Thanks again Vortex, a pretty impressive collection of the old SWG there.

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