Why is Mythic trying to make an Arcade game instead of an RPGMMO?

The two last pages almost made me cry. First one meant that we cannot have huge wooden castle filled with greenskin nor can the greenskins ''Go kill dose stunties''... At least not immediatly after the launch.

Second one wasn't so bad but.... NO CHOPPAS!   And they didn't even hint about bringing tha Choppa class later to the game... That is AWFUL

Personally I think we'll be seeing the choppa back in one form or another -- he's been in alot of the screenshots and I think of the 4 cut classes was one of the more popular.

I get the impression it was more a case of the berserker style of gameplay that he and the hammerer used wasn't working out for one reason or another and they maybe needed to rework that aspect (I'm completely guessing btw :))

The cap city announcement doesn't phase me.  I guess from the perspective of having the content from those cities available (unavailable) it's bad, but I rather like the idea of having people in a more confined setting to begin the game. 

If they make the other capital cities 'unlockable' and available for future expansion (free), then I'm okay with their releases lagging behind a bit.

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The announcement of the classes being cut... I'm a bit stung by that, actually.  I was very much looking forward to playing 'Blackguard'. 

Now, I think the 2 coolest classes left in the game are:  Witch Hunter and maybe Swordmaster or White Lion.  All 3 of those are Order.

But if I want to play Destruction?  For personal preference in visual appeal... I'd play Dark Elf or Chaos.

My options are limited very quickly there, though. 

If I want to play as a Dark Elf AND play as a male character... I have to play as a Disciple of Khaine?  Sorry, I'd just rather not have to play as a female character.  So, Dark Elf is pretty much a 'zero' option for me without Blackguard being there.

Chosen or Zealot would be my choices out of Chaos, and potentially out of all of Destruction. 

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I pre-ordered the Collector's Edition. I'm still wanting to give this game a very solid shot, but cutting classes and cap cities... it takes a bit of wind from the sails prior to launch, imho. 

I know, it's all about focus and quality on the remaining classes/cities.  I get that.  I was just pretty excited about having some additional choices. 

Have they renamed Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning  to Warhammer Online: Age of Conan 2 yet?

So many similarities

Punkbuster = No Sale

Can't get it to work consitantly and it causes nothing but headaches.  Just look at YouTube and you'll see just how effective it isn't at stopping cheaters.  In the end, just like copy protection, the only person it screws is the consumer.  Cheaters will cheat, period.

Oh well, I guess I'll wait for the next big MMO to come along.  Have fun (those that can stay connected).

Originally posted by Fernus

Punkbuster = No Sale

 

Can't get it to work consitantly and it causes nothing but headaches.  Just look at YouTube and you'll see just how effective it isn't at stopping cheaters.  In the end, just like copy protection, the only person it screws is the consumer.  Cheaters will cheat, period.

 

Oh well, I guess I'll wait for the next big MMO to come along.  Have fun (those that can stay connected).

 

That is the sorriest excuse I have ever seen.  You have no clue what punkbuster is putting in the game to start with.
 

I suggest you grow up a bit and wait to see what they come up with first before whining. 

DAoC really suffered from radar users, it was so bad we devoted one night a week to catching radar uses and reporting them.  Hopefully this game will not suffer from the same problem.

Originally posted by Niblix

Have they renamed Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning  to Warhammer Online: Age of Conan 2 yet?

So many similarities

Heh. trolling? the games not even out yet dude. I played AoC and quit. From what I can see this is nothing like it. Instead of releasing an unfinished game like AoC they are polishing warhammer to make sure they dont follow funcom's example.

If mythic had never said these class/race combos would be in the game none of this bitching would be happening. Thats what beta test is all about. Shit happens things change. 2 melee DPS, 2 tanks.. .so what?? ppl bitching like mad over this.. lol You can still play a tank u can still play a melee DPS..w/e QQ some more. Yea it sucks if you wanted to play one of those "looks".

20 playable classes? Not many other MMO's have this kind of variety.

You know that they will be good classes and balanced because after this move mythic would catch

no end of hell if they are not.

To visciousexe: if you tell me your gonna hit me with something 6 months from now I am gonna f** you up right now.. your whole post is worthless.

I suggest you grow up a bit and wait to see what they come up with first before whining. 

 

here here ozmodan well said...

The 2 city idea sounds pretty logical to me and I'm kinda glad they took out choppa class lol, seems everyone was gonna play it. Now you get to pick different stuff woot :D

OMG this sucks.  I can't believe Mythic released WAR and then took out 4 cities and 4 classes.... I mean... all those people already made their characters..... What's that?  The game isn't released yet?

Then..... why.... er.... why is everyone crying?

I don't get it... you people complain when companies don't release enough info on their unfinished game, then when they have to take something out of said unfinished game that you knew about, you cry then too....

Here's an idea... If you can't handle changes in developing games... then don't follow them...

Originally posted by Dameonk

OMG this sucks.  I can't believe Mythic released WAR and then took out 4 cities and 4 classes.... I mean... all those people already made their characters..... What's that?  The game isn't released yet?

Then..... why.... er.... why is everyone crying?

I don't get it... you people complain when companies don't release enough info on their unfinished game, then when they have to take something out of said unfinished game that you knew about, you cry then too....

Here's an idea... If you can't handle changes in developing games... then don't follow them...

You are definitely overlooking the fact that those 4 cities, and 4 classes were hyped to hell and back.

Having one capital city per side is just ridiculous....and it definitely does not fit into the lore.

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Originally posted by Fernus

Punkbuster = No Sale

 

Can't get it to work consitantly and it causes nothing but headaches.  Just look at YouTube and you'll see just how effective it isn't at stopping cheaters.  In the end, just like copy protection, the only person it screws is the consumer.  Cheaters will cheat, period.

 

Oh well, I guess I'll wait for the next big MMO to come along.  Have fun (those that can stay connected).

 

That is the sorriest excuse I have ever seen.  You have no clue what punkbuster is putting in the game to start with.
 

I suggest you grow up a bit and wait to see what they come up with first before whining. 

DAoC really suffered from radar users, it was so bad we devoted one night a week to catching radar uses and reporting them.  Hopefully this game will not suffer from the same problem.

Shut up you dripping fanboy.  Every game I ever tried with Punkbuster has resulted in the same thing.  Random disconnects, lag and problems.  The cheaters get around Punkbuster.  You can see all kinds of footage on YouTube.  Punkbuster servers with people doing speed hacks and the like. 

What is Punkbuster going to do to stop packet sniffers?  Nothing.  It can't detect it so programs like Odins Eye and the like will still be out there unless they do some pretty good packet encryption which causes lag and overhead.  The bottom line is Punkbuster isn't the answer to cheaters anymore then Starforce is an answer to piracy.

Originally posted by Fernus

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Originally posted by Fernus

Punkbuster = No Sale

 

Can't get it to work consitantly and it causes nothing but headaches.  Just look at YouTube and you'll see just how effective it isn't at stopping cheaters.  In the end, just like copy protection, the only person it screws is the consumer.  Cheaters will cheat, period.

 

Oh well, I guess I'll wait for the next big MMO to come along.  Have fun (those that can stay connected).

 

That is the sorriest excuse I have ever seen.  You have no clue what punkbuster is putting in the game to start with.
 

I suggest you grow up a bit and wait to see what they come up with first before whining. 

DAoC really suffered from radar users, it was so bad we devoted one night a week to catching radar uses and reporting them.  Hopefully this game will not suffer from the same problem.

 

Shut up you dripping fanboy.  Every game I ever tried with Punkbuster has resulted in the same thing.  Random disconnects, lag and problems.  The cheaters get around Punkbuster.  You can see all kinds of footage on YouTube.  Punkbuster servers with people doing speed hacks and the like. 

What is Punkbuster going to do to stop packet sniffers?  Nothing.  It can't detect it so programs like Odins Eye and the like will still be out there unless they do some pretty good packet encryption which causes lag and overhead.  The bottom line is Punkbuster isn't the answer to cheaters anymore then Starforce is an answer to piracy.

Excuse me?  You are the one running around making all kinds of absurd assumptions without one iota of knowledge of what you are talking about.  You don't have one clue what kind of protection punkbuster will provide for Mythic. 

You quite obviously don't know much about computers and programming, if there is a program in memory running it can be found and identified.  Sure it is constant battle to keep up with the hackers, but it is doable.  Blizzard has done a very good job in that regard.

Let's wait and see what Punkbuster provides before you go whining all over the forums with your silly assumptions.   Mythic stated that if it caused any problems it would be removed.

Oh and trying to insult me just makes you look sillier and only gets a chuckle out of me.

IF PUNKBUSTER DOES NOT WORK MYTHIC WILL TAKE IT OUT OF THE GAME. PERIOD.

Mark said that, so if it's so terrible as some people here say, make sure you tell Mythic.

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Originally posted by Fernus

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Originally posted by Fernus

Punkbuster = No Sale

 

Can't get it to work consitantly and it causes nothing but headaches.  Just look at YouTube and you'll see just how effective it isn't at stopping cheaters.  In the end, just like copy protection, the only person it screws is the consumer.  Cheaters will cheat, period.

 

Oh well, I guess I'll wait for the next big MMO to come along.  Have fun (those that can stay connected).

 

That is the sorriest excuse I have ever seen.  You have no clue what punkbuster is putting in the game to start with.
 

I suggest you grow up a bit and wait to see what they come up with first before whining. 

DAoC really suffered from radar users, it was so bad we devoted one night a week to catching radar uses and reporting them.  Hopefully this game will not suffer from the same problem.

 

Shut up you dripping fanboy.  Every game I ever tried with Punkbuster has resulted in the same thing.  Random disconnects, lag and problems.  The cheaters get around Punkbuster.  You can see all kinds of footage on YouTube.  Punkbuster servers with people doing speed hacks and the like. 

What is Punkbuster going to do to stop packet sniffers?  Nothing.  It can't detect it so programs like Odins Eye and the like will still be out there unless they do some pretty good packet encryption which causes lag and overhead.  The bottom line is Punkbuster isn't the answer to cheaters anymore then Starforce is an answer to piracy.

 

Excuse me?  You are the one running around making all kinds of absurd assumptions without one iota of knowledge of what you are talking about.  You don't have one clue what kind of protection punkbuster will provide for Mythic. 

You quite obviously don't know much about computers and programming, if there is a program in memory running it can be found and identified.  Sure it is constant battle to keep up with the hackers, but it is doable.  Blizzard has done a very good job in that regard.

Let's wait and see what Punkbuster provides before you go whining all over the forums with your silly assumptions.   Mythic stated that if it caused any problems it would be removed.

Oh and trying to insult me just makes you look sillier and only gets a chuckle out of me.

Yeah, it's crazy to think they would install Punkbuster when they said they will install Punkbuster.   I'm CRAZY!!

You obviously don't understand how networking works because a packet sniffer doesn't have to run on the computer running the game.  How is any program going to find a packet sniffer running on another machine?  Please tell me because you obviously are so much more informed about it then I.

And I've been chuckling at you from the start.  I love blind faith fanboys.  They are so much fun.

Originally posted by Ascension08

IF PUNKBUSTER DOES NOT WORK MYTHIC WILL TAKE IT OUT OF THE GAME. PERIOD.

Mark said that, so if it's so terrible as some people here say, make sure you tell Mythic.

The problem is Punkbuster doesn't think they have a problem.  Plus it's a different beast dealing with an MMO then a FPS.  All I know is I have never been able to get Punkbuster to work consistanly on any system.  I've been through their reinstall and redownload dance so many times it stopped me from playing any Battlefield online.  Which is a shame.  "Does Not Work" is a little vague.  If it doesn't work for everyone or some magic percentage?  What happens for those it doesn't work for?  Those are the questions that I'd like to see answered.

"Well its Mark, so if he thinks something is going to be released half-assed it most likely wont make it out. "

This the same Mark that released DAOC in the sad state it was in? I'll give it one thing, it didn't crash much...

But then, even SW:G released with more "content" than DAOC. Empty dungeons.... and if you happened to find a dungeon WITH monsters in it, the monsters didn't have loot! Exciting!

So, yeah, Mark has a great track record in regards to not releasing half finished stuff... he only releases completely unfinished stuff ;).

Originally posted by Burnthebed

 

You are definitely overlooking the fact that those 4 cities, and 4 classes were hyped to hell and back.

Having one capital city per side is just ridiculous....and it definitely does not fit into the lore.

Betatesters from betaleaks says they're all okay with 1 city... They said that 3 cities just split the players.

You don't even know what you're talking about (same for me).. so just wait and see

Not so bad they just axed half of the game content just that...

LOL u gotta love companies now adays... hey bad news we planned 6 cities but we will have only 2, and we planned 10 clases but we will have 6... Basicly our plans are bs...

Oh and i love the excuse about the delay HEH... and he says later i dont like to lie to players RIGHT

Why dont u tell us already u guys want to cash your juicy check already so your going to release half the game..