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General Discussion  » Darkfall - THE WOW KILLER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  Rob_dc84

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Joined: 12/31/07
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for the cheesecake!

6/26/08 7:06:10 AM#41

mr.jackwhite hi just wanted to say your on some good drugs and are not sharing so be a friend and share with us cuz we wanna see the world how u do and why the hell u think darkfall will end wow and why u think it exist. thanks


  lapis2

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6/26/08 7:19:05 AM#42

oh man i just watched 1 of their "gameplay" videos hahahahaha.  all it showed was badly designed character models riding some decent looking horses then at the very end it showed literally less than 10 secs of "gameplay"  where the models look stiff poorley animated and surrounded by bad effects. 

  Adamantine

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War is not the ultima ratio, but the ultima irratio - Willy Brandt

6/27/08 3:37:24 AM#43
Originally posted by kishe

Darkfall...5 years in development and best they can do is give us handful of semi-rendered screenshots.

Duh. Its pretty normal that games are in development for 5 years, though. Only normally companies dont announce them that early.

 

Originally posted by davitos

the only thing that is going to kill WoW is a new MMO maked by blizzard.

Who knows. Personally I'm amazed people back then kept playing Diablo 2. I'm amazed that people today keep playing WoW. I see very little reason for doing so. Blizzard always does the same type of games - easy, shallow, outdated graphics (ok that one wouldnt bother me), beginner friendly and endgame unfriendly. The type of game a reasonable player, in my opinion, would play for a month, then ditch in boredom.


 

Originally posted by StinkyPits

WoW will never die - but WAR will sure take a lot of customers away.  WAR will kick some butt!

WoW will die one day, as will any other MMO, but not in the near future. In fact, even some of the oldest MMOs are still around, arent they ?

 

Originally posted by Talemire

This won't just kill WoW... This is going to kill all MMORPGs. I'll bet my motorcycle on it.

How stupid can one be ???

 

Originally posted by jackwhite

Wow you called me a noob. I am so insulted.  If you know the history of MMO's, many of them have had millions of subscribers and have died (Everquest, Ultima Online, SWG).

Everquest, Ultima Online and Star Wars Galaxies are all still up and running, for all I know.


 

  Xasapis

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6/27/08 4:16:47 AM#44

Who in his right mind expects Darkfall to dethrone WoW from the most popular MMO position?

Darkfall is not a WoW killer. In fact, it's nothing more than hyped potential on this and other forums. Same as what AoC used to be or what WAR, Aion and all the soon to launch games are. It takes a lot more than potential to claw youself in the top popularity MMO position.

Besides, do the Darkfall fans really want that?

  bluealien1

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6/27/08 4:20:44 AM#45

What is vapor cannot possibly kill something that is thriving.

  Xasapis

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6/27/08 4:22:12 AM#46

Only if it's steaming hot vapour hehe

  Friction2u

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Yay! Quote!

6/27/08 4:32:14 AM#47
Originally posted by bluealien1

What is vapor cannot possibly kill something that is thriving.

 

lol

 

Considering the MO link in your sig I hope you see the irony in what you said

 

  Adamantine

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War is not the ultima ratio, but the ultima irratio - Willy Brandt

6/27/08 4:40:06 AM#48

Um, well, how to put this ?

Darkfall is what... it is. I see numerous issues with its concept, as I've seen them with AoC.

Unlike AoC, its an extreme and experimental concept. Refreshing, in a way, but personally I cant see it succeed. Succeed in respect to be another niche MMO, sure. Succeed as a WoW killer ? Not really.

 

  zymurgeist

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6/27/08 4:51:08 AM#49
Originally posted by jackwhite

Wow you called me a noob. I am so insulted.  If you know the history of MMO's, many of them have had millions of subscribers and have died (Everquest, Ultima Online, SWG).


 

No actually they didn't.. Exactly four MMOs have had over a million subscriptions and none of them have died. . None of the other three came even close to WoW which had more than Ten million. Everquest, Ultima Online and SWG never reached a million  subscriptions.

 

Oh and you're a noob.

 

 

"Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice." ~Greys Law

  Xasapis

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6/27/08 5:04:32 AM#50

I believe that we are now confusing subscriptions with active subscriptions.

  kingtommyboy

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6/27/08 5:16:59 AM#51
Originally posted by jackwhite
Originally posted by kingtommyboy

I gonna use the words "YOU'RE A NOOB" here.. really.. you see those kind of topics every day on the forums here (I would suggest the devs of mmorpg.com to make a special space on this site for people with "kill-wow" topics..

I also made a wowkill topic once ^^ but that was for telling people that they should stop making this kind of topics because they are really stupid and useless...

sorry but first of all, it's impossible to kill wow at this moment, it has just to many players. You need to understand some things before posting things like this.

all the new games that comes out take away players of wow, but even with darkfall wow will not be killed. This process will take manny years. Wow will just die like most mmorpgs do: because it's become to old.. ( and don't think that will be soon, even in 10 years there will still be servers running and people playing)

Darkfall says that it offers fun stuff, well let's hope it's fun. AOC also said it would be a great game. Well it's nice but mmh not my thing. I tried it and didn't like it. there are lots of people who bought AOC and are now canceling their subscritions. This can also happen with Darkfall.. There came so manny games out since wow released and there were so manny games where people said that this would be the one who wil beat wow. And it still didnt happen. It's like waiting for the return of jezus... So I suggest you just wait, and see what happens.

Do not call me a wow fanboy or something... I am a fan of wow, I played the game for 3 years, and I had a great time!!! But I had to move on and I bought lotro, thats also a verry nice game! and I think I stay there for a while now.

And by the way. There is NO ONE waiting for the dead of world of warcraft. That's just a waist of time.

And WHO THE HELL CARES?

Wow you called me a noob. I am so insulted.  If you know the history of MMO's, many of them have had millions of subscribers and have died (Everquest, Ultima Online, SWG).

 

..... lol, I know the MMORPG history better then you I think otherwise you wouldn't say that...

I don't think EQ and UO ever reached a million subscribers, maby SWG did.

And those games aren't dead, you can still buy and play them. And they never had as much players as wow has now...

So will wow die? well maby some day.. but you'll have to wait for a loooooooooooooooooong time for that.

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waiting for ... nothing..

  Troops

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Joined: 6/09/08
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6/27/08 5:35:04 AM#52

Shame that these new games like AOC, Darkfall etc are or trying to make everything to perfect. some people say that the WOW graphics are outdated but I have to disagree.

This is what I prefer tbh, I don't like the fact that they are trying to make Toons look like real life people, it screws up the fantasy imho. Each to their own but when I play a game it's a game I don't want it to realistic I just want to relax have fun. Looking at all the pics tbh the Toons look crap.
 
Jumpgate Evolution is one I'm looking forward to, just hope it's close to Earth and beyond as that game was great in its day till it was pushed of a cliff by EA.
anyway thats my 2c
 
  Xasapis

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6/27/08 5:56:00 AM#53

WoW was doing great lore wise ... until they brought the space cows into the picture. That surely messed the lore more than the way their toons look like.

  bluealien1

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6/28/08 3:28:30 AM#54
Originally posted by Friction2u
Originally posted by bluealien1

What is vapor cannot possibly kill something that is thriving.

 

lol

 

Considering the MO link in your sig I hope you see the irony in what you said

 

MO's chances of releasing thus far are a hell of alot higher than DF's. MO has shown absolutely no signs of vapor so far. They are well funded(You cannot get the U3 engine unless you have evidence to support this), they have an absolutely excellent engine to work with(U3), and the developer to player communication is nothing short of remarkable.

When is DF's beta date again? What was that, less than 6 months from release and no beta date? Wow.

  dirtknap69

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Joined: 2/07/08
Posts: 307

7/14/08 4:47:05 PM#55
Originally posted by kishe

Darkfall...5 years in development and best they can do is give us handful of semi-rendered screenshots.

 

lol what makes you think they're pre-rendered?

 

 

  dirtknap69

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7/14/08 4:52:20 PM#56
Originally posted by bluealien1

MO's chances of releasing thus far are a hell of alot higher than DF's. MO has shown absolutely no signs of vapor so far. They are well funded(You cannot get the U3 engine unless you have evidence to support this), they have an absolutely excellent engine to work with(U3), and the developer to player communication is nothing short of remarkable.

 

so MO & DF have been in development for the same amount of time, et DF has 4 gameplay movies, scores of screenshots and hundreds of pages of developer updates while MO has 1 pre-rendered teaser movie and nothing else and you're calling DF vapourware?

 

lolwut?

  Theodgrim

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Joined: 9/17/06
Posts: 548

7/14/08 5:20:14 PM#57
Originally posted by dirtknap69

so MO & DF have been in development for the same amount of time, et DF has 4 gameplay movies, scores of screenshots and hundreds of pages of developer updates while MO has 1 pre-rendered teaser movie and nothing else and you're calling DF vapourware?

 

lolwut?


 

Yeah, lolwut?   They have not been in dev about the same time. 

According to the MO FAQ, they started planning in 2002 and it took off in 2005.  In regards to DF, Claus is quoted as saying he started planning DF around 1995, got serious in 1997.  Razorwaz opened their offices in 2000, and then of course Aventurine took over in late 2002.

The MO video claims it was produced using in game content and technology.  No reason not to give them the benefit of the doubt, since we are comparing them to Aventurine!

And last, the U3 engine proves that these guys actually have solid backing.   Of course, there is no guarantee MO will launch, but it has a better chance than DF, IMO.

  dirtknap69

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Posts: 307

7/14/08 5:31:37 PM#58
Originally posted by Theodgrim
Originally posted by dirtknap69

so MO & DF have been in development for the same amount of time, et DF has 4 gameplay movies, scores of screenshots and hundreds of pages of developer updates while MO has 1 pre-rendered teaser movie and nothing else and you're calling DF vapourware?

 

lolwut?


 

Yeah, lolwut?   They have not been in dev about the same time. 

According to the MO FAQ, they started planning in 2002 and it took off in 2005.  In regards to DF, Claus is quoted as saying he started planning DF around 1995, got serious in 1997.  Razorwaz opened their offices in 2000, and then of course Aventurine took over in late 2002.

The MO video claims it was produced using in game content and technology.  No reason not to give them the benefit of the doubt, since we are comparing them to Aventurine!

And last, the U3 engine proves that these guys actually have solid backing.   Of course, there is no guarantee MO will launch, but it has a better chance than DF, IMO.

 

it's hilarious how easily you trolls are persuaded by misdirection and hype.

- the MO FAQ states the codebase goes back to 2000

- DF started serious development in 2003

- MO video was made with in-game models and then pre-rendered.

- anyone can buy a unreal engine license. it costs $300K. it means nothing.

 

as for giving MO the benefit of the doubt - LOL - the MO guys have released not a single thing over the years and they're claiming a summer 2008 release date and you think somehow they're better than Aventurine/Darkfall. great logic there.

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  Theodgrim

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7/14/08 7:54:44 PM#59
Originally posted by dirtknap69

 

- the MO FAQ states the codebase goes back to 2000

http://www.mortalonline.com/faq#q17

It does?  Link me to better info if you have it.

- DF started serious development in 2003

Fine, I wont argue.  MO started serious development 2 YEARS later.  To anyone but Aventurine, that is significant dev time.

- MO video was made with in-game models and then pre-rendered.

That was all the benefit of the doubt I referred to - actual in-game models.

- anyone can buy a unreal engine license. it costs $300K. it means nothing.

It means they have $300K to spend on an engine. 

as for giving MO the benefit of the doubt - LOL - the MO guys have released not a single thing over the years and they're claiming a summer 2008 release date and you think somehow they're better than Aventurine/Darkfall. great logic there.

I assume that is a typo, since they claim launch in summer 2009.  But I never said I believed that date - I said they had a better chance of launching.  Thanks, I think my logic is great too!

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  SlyLoK

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7/14/08 11:08:34 PM#60

What other MMOs have had 1 million + subscribers?

I know some throw Lineage 1 $ 2 and Ragnarok in there but noone really knows how many ' real ' subs they have. Internet cafes can really scew the numbers.

We know WoW has over a million real subs because they have like 3 million in the US/EU ( or was it just the US? ) and 10+ million in all.

About the only thing that can kill WoW is time and even then Blizzard would probably still have a large player base.

P.S. WAR isnt that great right now.

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