WAR (Warhammer Online)

It's just not going to work out well for us, any way you slice it, unless the game is delayed until it is FINISHED.

They're cutting two tanks, and two melee DPS. Now maybe those classes are only being delayed until after launch or maybe they're not going to be put into the game at all...Mr. Jacobs said they haven't decided yet.

Here's the problem:
If you cut out the tanks for any race, you now have a race that has no tank. This means they're no longer self-reliant. They now have to depend on a tank from another race if they need a meat shield for any specific content.

Normally that wouldn't be that big of a problem EXCEPT that A) It doesn't really fit with the lore of the Warhammer world (Games Workshop has to be upset about this) and B) They've ALSO cut the cities down to only TWO cities!!!

Now what's going to happen? You have races that can't be self-reliant, which is going to interfere with the lore of the game world and strip away racial identity because players are going to pretty much be forced to mingle with other races. You also have all the races smashed together in the Human and Chaos cities. This will strip away whatever small bit of racial identity was left for the Orcs/Dwarves, High Elf/Dark Elf segments.

Remember all the race-specific Tier zones? Whatever happened to all that? Each race with it's own area to level up and battle their own sworn enemies. Guess we can kiss it goodbye, because it's going to be hard to have race specific areas if everyone is starting out in the same city.

What the eff, Mythic? The thing I was most looking forward to MMO-wise was seeing an accurate depicition of the Warhammer world, a world with a lot of racial tension and infighting. Now you're spinning your heels on us this late in the game?

I could deal with the frail alliances between the different races for the sake of game mechanics, it wasn't a big deal. But this latest move of cutting a fourth of the classes and mashing all the races into one city each...it's really a bad, bad idea.

I see no way this can work the way you've laid it out and still end up a Warhammer game. You said you wanted to do it right. You said you wanted to be faithful to the material. You seem to be ACTING like you want to be the next Blizzard and not release games until they're done. So DO IT and stop caving to stockholders.

When it comes to haughty development principles, it's put up or shut up. Actions not words. Make the game the way you intended to, the way you told me you would, or I'm not buyin'. Tell that to your benefactors.

Okay, so let me begin with your first sentence. It's just not going to work out well for YOU.  not Us.  YOU.  From then on, what you state should be rethought from the angle of YOU, not US.  Thank you for sharing with us how the game will not work for YOU.  If that is truly the case, as has been said before by even Mark himself, don't buy the game if it is not right for you.  For those it works for, they can play the game and be happy.

Also as has been said, if you want the game to be delayed and it is not, simply do not buy it.  Wait 6 months, or a year, however long you think it should be delayed, and buy the game then (If the game is something you are interested in) and it can be the same as if they had delayed it... for you.

To save people the time of posting tangent rants about how we should not pay to Beta a game, that too is the choice of those who wish to pay for the game now, as opposed to later.  If YOU do not wish to pay for the game in its current state, don't.  For those that find it worth paying for now, permit them to without imposing your personal agendas on how they wish to spend THEIR leisure time and funds.  Thanks.

Wait for a few months then. All that content's been delayed till after launch and not removed permanently.

The missing classes will probably get in first, followed by capital pairs.

Oh and btw capitals are endgame rather than starting content, you'll have quite a walk till you begin missing them.

Mr. Jacobs had to do what he had to do. He could have lied to the playerbase like every other gaming company has, but he chose not to. There were very valid reasons to everything done, and they're just trying to avoid pulling an AoC on us. He even stated that people would be upset about it, but Mythic isn't allowing any content that's less than "fabulous" to be released, and I highly respect that. A delayed release is out of the question because it would just be a bad business move and would also cause more problems, still being left leaving current problems unsolved.

I say suck it up and appreciate Mythic's honesty and track-record. What's being cut now may just come back later better than ever. We shall see.

   Lol wow go read a little and get educated before you make a foolish post like this .... 4 of 24 classes .. the 4 removed were hybrids each realm still has a few tank and dps choices .. the 2 cities doesnt bother me and there will be content directed to each individual race...

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Originally posted by SundersGhost
Okay, so let me begin with your first sentence. It's just not going to work out well for YOU.  not Us.  YOU.  From then on, what you state should be rethought from the angle of YOU, not US.  Thank you for sharing with us how the game will not work for YOU.  If that is truly the case, as has been said before by even Mark himself, don't buy the game if it is not right for you.  For those it works for, they can play the game and be happy.
Also as has been said, if you want the game to be delayed and it is not, simply do not buy it.  Wait 6 months, or a year, however long you think it should be delayed, and buy the game then (If the game is something you are interested in) and it can be the same as if they had delayed it... for you.
To save people the time of posting tangent rants about how we should not pay to Beta a game, that too is the choice of those who wish to pay for the game now, as opposed to later.  If YOU do not wish to pay for the game in its current state, don't.  For those that find it worth paying for now, permit them to without imposing your personal agendas on how they wish to spend THEIR leisure time and funds.  Thanks.
 

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I'm sorry, SundersGhost, but this post was for US not YOU. So kindly remember that when I was writing this post it was for US not YOU. So if YOU don't agree with it, YOU don't have to comment on it, YOU can let US discuss it. YOU should go to another thread to comment where people are writing posts for YOU. Thanks.

See how pretentious and annoying that is?

First off, what is the point of bitcing? It's done, Decide now if you can play it as is or move on. I feel taking away the four cities might not be the best idea but not having them for raid at the start was a good idea, gives people the chance to have some exposure before we have 3 targets to defend/take. Removing classes so late in the dev cycle I can imagine was a hard decesion to make, knowing that fans will react badly but if they really must remove them then so be it, maybe the classes that come after ( if any) will be far superior to the four removed. I for one will still be waiting outside EBs door the day the day it goes live and reserve judgement until I can play in the world.

whats the issue? if you dont like it, dont buy it.  No one is going to miss you.

Originally posted by DarkDavis

 

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Originally posted by SundersGhost
Okay, so let me begin with your first sentence. It's just not going to work out well for YOU.  not Us.  YOU.  From then on, what you state should be rethought from the angle of YOU, not US.  Thank you for sharing with us how the game will not work for YOU.  If that is truly the case, as has been said before by even Mark himself, don't buy the game if it is not right for you.  For those it works for, they can play the game and be happy.
Also as has been said, if you want the game to be delayed and it is not, simply do not buy it.  Wait 6 months, or a year, however long you think it should be delayed, and buy the game then (If the game is something you are interested in) and it can be the same as if they had delayed it... for you.
To save people the time of posting tangent rants about how we should not pay to Beta a game, that too is the choice of those who wish to pay for the game now, as opposed to later.  If YOU do not wish to pay for the game in its current state, don't.  For those that find it worth paying for now, permit them to without imposing your personal agendas on how they wish to spend THEIR leisure time and funds.  Thanks.
 

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I'm sorry, SundersGhost, but this post was for US not YOU. So kindly remember that when I was writing this post it was for US not YOU. So if YOU don't agree with it, YOU don't have to comment on it, YOU can let US discuss it. YOU should go to another thread to comment where people are writing posts for YOU. Thanks.

See how pretentious and annoying that is?

No pretentious and annoying at all.  If that was your intent, just as with your original post, you failed to do more than more whining.  WAAAAAAAAGH.  If you think so poorly of the games condition, don't play.  If you feel you need more of a spotlight for your whining, I am sure your mother will give you the attention you desire.  Or maybe you are crying here coz she got tired of listening to you too?  :)  This is not about US, it is about your need to cry and vet what has already been stated many times, and explained.  It serves nothing more than to seek attention.  GJ.  QQ more.