Age of Conan

Originally posted by Reborn17

Originally posted by LondonMagus

Originally posted by Reborn17

Originally posted by LondonMagus

Originally posted by Teala

Someone is lying in that news letter.   Funcoms subscriptions are not doing all that great.    They'll be lucky to retain 1/20th of their initial sales if they don't start fixing  their game and making it fun to play.  

 

Didn't you really mean.

You refuse to believe that Funcom are doing well & are so unhappy with them that you hope that they only retain 1/20th of the initial sales unless they start changing the game into what you consider fun to play"

I am sorry that you are so unhappy with the game, but all the negative wish fulfilment masquerading as 'Projections of Doom' on these forums is getting very tiresome.

 

You are a sick man:

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Last Trade: 24.50 Trade Time: Jul 11 Change: 1.00 (3.92%) Prev Close: 25.50 Open: 26.50 Bid: 24.40 Ask: 24.50 1y Target Est: N/A

Day's Range: 24.50 - 26.50 52wk Range: 17.60 - 55.50 Volume: 301,077 Avg Vol (3m): 617,810 Market Cap: N/A P/E (ttm): N/A EPS (ttm): N/A Div & Yield: N/A (N/A)

Its lost more than half its value since release, and has slipped to 17th overall in sales with almost no competition and tons of marketing, but the real indicator is the fact gamecards have slipped to #524 http://www.amazon.com/s/qid=1215955211/ref=sr_pg_44?ie=UTF8&rs=229575&bbn=229575&rh=n%3A468642%2Cn%3A229575&page=44 . Means no one's subscribing.

 

 

Have you checked your pension fund lately? There is a global stock crisis at the moment, a British bank nearly went bust last week & one of the larger American mortgage companies went down over the last few days. In a 'Bear Market' for the stock exchanges your charts aren't that impressive.

As for gaming cards, aren't those more likely to be used by younger players & isn't this an 18+ game?

Its bizarre the way that the 'Hatebois' latch on to almost anything that seems to feed their bizarre obsession. If you didn't like the game then fine, go & play something else & stop dweliing on it.

Why do you want to see it fail so badly? It's just a fairly inexpensive video game & you weren't swindled out of your life savings, even if you don't feel you got enough enjoyment out of it during the trial period.

Why are all the 'Hatebois' so 'Desperate for Blood'? Now that is 'sick'!

 

"Latch on to almost anything"? Like I said, sick

 

Like i posted earlier, mmorpg.com is the last place we are going to find expert stock analysts. Expert trolls and haters perhaps.

Originally posted by Die_Scream

I see a lot more circumstantial  evidence of the game doing poorly than any evidence of any kind that it's doing well. The only thing the fans of the game have is FC's boxes sold marketing message, while the other side can quote stock prise, x-fire, and gamecard sales. The official boards don't give me much confidence either.

Only FC know for sure, but my opinion is the game is not doing well.

My thoughts exaxtly.

FC's report may be more or less successful (financially), but it is also with a "spin", as Zorvan put it. While having a strong box-sale helps a lot, having consistent subscription base would mean whether the game has a future or doesn't.

Ive read through all the nay-sayers, and I find their data (including stock market) inconclusive and circumstantial. Personally, I don't think AOC will be a very successful game, it's way too linear, way to restrictive for my MMO taste. But so far, I haven't seen a direct indicator of its failure or success. The only direct clue I get is the ranting of disgruntled players regarding bugs, OP classes and general behavior of the developer team. With that clue, I believe AOC is slowly losing subscription base. Only FC knows what their subs are.

Originally posted by Artermis

Like i posted earlier, mmorpg.com is the last place we are going to find expert stock analysts. Expert trolls and haters perhaps.

Its not necessary to automatically classify any criticism as "trolling", just like every praise post as "fanboism". Granted, some posts reek of unsubstantiated personal opinions, but this post, for example, is a pretty good one.

I awill add my comments in the most meaningful way that matters to devs right now.

As we speak, I am cancelling my AoC account. Here's why...

I have reactivated my old FFXI account and am enjoying seeing old friends and seeing the new content. SE banned a TON of RMTs...which when I read it I was like "whatver, like THATS going to do anything. But when I checked the Ah, a rare item that had gotten up to almost 50 million gil was down to around 1.6 mil (peacock charm). It was like this with everything.

Banning those people cost SE money, but their game is much better off as a result. This is the kind of company I respect, putting their game and its customers first. As for funcom, I still have a ticket filed to which they never replied. I circumvented teh problem, thats to the much pissed-off community on the Funcom forums, but the point still stands.

So, I believe them when they said they're initial sales were over 700,000 K. I also believe that the number is declining faster then is expected (you should always assume that not everyone who comes to the party will stay past the free buffett).  I didn't think it was a terrible game, but it was a bit too much eye candy and not enough content for my taste.

So, I am using my wallet to sound off on if I believe funcom is being a bit overzealous in their declarations. However, I might go back some day and try it when the game is a bit more mature.

The real shock for me is FC only pocketed 20% of the box sales?   I am not familiar enough with how much other companies make off of box sales but is 20% the norm?

Originally posted by Odysses

The real shock for me is FC only pocketed 20% of the box sales?   I am not familiar enough with how much other companies make off of box sales but is 20% the norm?

If you have a publisher who is handling everything except development and customer service, you can expect to get anywhere from 15% to 30% of the proceeds, depending on the indidvidual contract. This is why most smaller/indy devs self-publish.

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by Odysses

The real shock for me is FC only pocketed 20% of the box sales?   I am not familiar enough with how much other companies make off of box sales but is 20% the norm?

 

If you have a publisher who is handling everything except development and customer service, you can expect to get anywhere from 15% to 30% of the proceeds, depending on the indidvidual contract. This is why most smaller/indy devs self-publish.

I've heard it go as low as 10