General Discussion

I cant believe this lol, I have waited so long for this game.

Set back after set back, year after year.

And now they are going to do something like this? This is just terrible, sorry mythic but im cancelling my pre-order.

But on the otherhand I could buy the game and play my most wanted class "chosen" but im sorry, im not going to buy Warhammer online until the game comes with all the features/classes/towns. Next thing we know, right before release. "we are sorry but we had to take tradeskills out because they just wasn't good enough". bla bla bla.

I remember mark jacobs saying "we are not going to release the game until we think its ready" umm ok Im not seeing this here anywhere.... obivously if they are leaving out 4 classes and 4 out of the 6! towns. THE GAME IS NOT FINISHED.

I just wouldn't ever believe mythic would do something like this! I could have seen it before EA bought them out but now that they have one of the biggest gaming companies backing them up, this is rediculous.

Punkbuster is little more than invasive malware.

It indiscriminantly scans your memory and reports data back to punkbuster servers.  It's worse than the warden.

It's also very easy to work around.  And it's also very easy to exploit and make other people trip the system (false positive).  All you have to do is post a string that would normally be found in a known cheating program, be it on a website or IRC or chat and it will think you are trying to cheat.  Even balance's solution?  Don't run other programs at the same time as a Punkbuster enabled game.

Completely unacceptable.

Originally posted by Ozmodan

18 classes, really how many games start with 18 classes?  You are extremely lucky you are getting that many. 

I am just amazed at all the thoughtless whiners on this thread.  If you can't find a class you like in one of those 18 you have issues, namely you should not be playing a MMO.

20 classes actually

I am sad. Very sad.

For those saying that the 18 or so classes is adequate for any MMO standard.. This is WAR. It is not some cookie cutter MMO.  The IP is very very rich to draw from. I thought they were going to be faithful to the IP? We all can understand the tweaks to the IP like Zealots and Disciples of Khaine for game balance in MMOs.  They can't make the tanks and dps melee classes fun?

Did they ask Games Workshop how they made these units fun for their games?

Well i suspect they will be spending precious work hours explaining to us of their decision and how these changes will be retooled and rebalanced. 

Lets make the game GREAT by having an Ironbreaker, Witchunter, Bright wizard and Archmage against a Witch Elf, Black Orc, Squig herder and Zealot.  Less classes= better if they are really great.

Originally posted by KnightTrue

"Takes more than 200 people to siege the city its is not a guild event.  So nice try at the trolling lol. "

                                                                                                                       -Banthis the nonfactor

 

 

Yeah thats what they said about WoW till hardcore pvp guilds locked down Ogrimmar and Ironforge, gtfo and diaf, you know nothing about MMORPGs.  I could take 50 of my guys and lock one of these lame cities down with 400 newbies trying to get back in., Warhammer isn't going to have the same sever pop as WoW, so it'll be that much easier.  The level cap of 40 will be hit within 2 days by exploit usage, always happens.

 

WAR devs were supposedly working on this game a long time, producing all these retarded podcasts and videos when they should have been working on content for the game.  It was bad enough they had to redo the graphics because they got so out of date, but removing 4 cities and 4 classes?! I mean how hard is it to make a mirror class with some cool looking tactics that differentiate it from its counterpart?! Good luck trying to add 4 classes and balance them later on down the line, talk about a challenge.  This is an obviously stupid move to anyone who has worked in the game development industry.  No thanks Mythic, take this BS Spin and write a blog, if they really believe people think taking out this much content is going to make the game better, they don't deserve my money nor anyone looking for a solid pvp MMORPG.  This game isn't ready for a sept launch.  Get ready for your first $30 expansion pack with maybe 2 classes, then another $30 expansion with 2 more classes after that.  Funcom promised alot and also didn't deliver with AOC, hence their subscriber base being down to like 70k now out of the estimated 700k pre-orders all because they didn't have the content ready they said they would.

 

Hear that sound?... Its the sound of thousands of WOTLK being pre-ordered because people know WAR isn't shaping up to be what they thought.

Funny I played WoW for 2 years and never saw this happen..infact guards usually wiped out most people before they could do much damage.  I think You might want to Stop Trolling at this point.    WoW was never even designed as a PvP game and it certaintly wasnt' designed for City Sieges its completely possible a large guild COULD lock a city down if there was any reason to other than annoying.    WAR on the other hand IS design specifically for City Sieging 200 people can't hold down an Entire Teir, a Keep, and storm the Gates at the same time.

I too was looking forward to some good news when I got up this morning, but alas it is not to be. Still, it's not all bad as I wasn't really looking to play any of the classes they cut, probably because there wasn't / isn't much info on them and a lot of the other class sound really cool / interesting / fun to play.

I was really looking forward to exploring all the capital cities though, so I'm bit disappointed about that. At least on the plus side Altdorf and Inevitable will be even better than they otherwise would have been.

I guess my main concern is what the removal of those four classes will do to the overall distribution of players among the archetypes. Are we going to see less tanks and melee DPS overall, or will the up till now Choppa, Blackguard, Hammerer, and KotBS players simply choose to play the other Tank / Melee DPS class of that faction? I guess only time (and maybe some polls) will tell.

Also, KnightTrue, you owe me $478; 1 braincell = $1. Seriously, do you even know ANYTHING about WAR, or game development? Wait, don't answer that, I already know the answer is a resounding NO.

OMG - *re-reads article*

OMG guys, WTF!!!  Do I see actual honesty and realistic goals being used in relation to an upcoming launch?!!?!  I can't believe this.  A company just came out and told me the truth.  I'm actually still in shock from reading it.  I mean the very thought of being told the truth has me just...just...stunned.

This actually makes me want to buy the game more.  Is that odd?  I mean here we have a company that has pushed and pushed back the launch date for the sake of what I thought to be quality.  And then just when I think the extensions are superficial and not truly needed (i.e. to polish off insignificant CE extras), they drop this bombshell of an interview and actually admit that some major concepts of the game simply aren't finished.  KUDOS to you Mythic...KUDOS indeed!

To those of you who are unhappy with the announcement I simply pose the question - what would you do?  You have a product with potential.  You know how important launch is.  Do you do like every other game we b*tch and moan about, and go ahead with the launch revealing piss poor, half @ssed, unfinished main line concepts OR do you admit that reality beat fantasy with a stick; as it relates to game production, and it won't be ready?

I see the problem with doing this from reading some of the responses.  Mythic really is damned if the do or damned if they don't.  If they go ahead with the release of poorly polished cities and "not great" classes then the masses will complain.  If they withhold the classes and cities in an attempt to polish them, then the masses complain about that.  Just seems like a giant Mexican stand-off and Mythic is the only gun-slinger without a gun.

The ONLY question I'd have, would be if there is a time line AFTER launch for these cut back features/classes/cities to be implemented.  If they slap that "indefinite" amount of time tag on the previously mentioned components THEN I could see myself getting angry, but for now I'm quite satisfied with the move.  Again, KUDOS MYTHIC!

I am just glad  a company had some honesty and told us what was going right and what was going wrong, and they had the balls to make a tough decision they KNEW would get flamed. Regardless I am going to buy it, Mythic is awesome and as an avid Warhammer Fantasy/40K enthusiast all I have to say is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!