General Discussion

Originally posted by Draccan

Dammit ....all the stuff I thought Mythic would never do!!

Why not just postpone and deliver as promised. Cutting these classes MAKES NO SENSE.

First of all Choppas - there are no ORCS now, only 2 gobbos and a black orc for WARHAMMER?
And no Knight of the Burning Sun = no empire knights??? You have Witch Hunters but no knights of the empire???

I don't really see your problem, the classes will come once they have found a way to make them work. Putting in classes that everyone will complain about and not play DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

This makes no sense. And cutting down to two cities?? Why is that?

They cut 4 cities.

You are starting to go the Funcom route. And if this news stands I am going to skip WAR all together!!!

The FunCOM route would be to announce 4 new classes and 4 additional cities although they do not exist at all. I appreciate the honesty and the balls this announcement shows informing the players before they buy the product.

I spent all this time defending WAR and Mythic for year. Now I feel like a sucker.

To the poster saying there is now 2/3rd siege content missing: You should go read the newsletters there is not just Capital City Sieges.

I admire Mythic for the honesty and a strong comitment to QUALITY over QUANTiTY!

Originally posted by Sortran

Though this news is sad, I tend to think that they cities were not up to what they wanted, and may be same way for the players. As for the class cuts these will hurt as alot of people wanted to play those 4 classes. One thing for certain that i am glad to see, is Mythic dumping EA. EA has done very little in terms of being a good publisher and their methods tend to annoy alot of gamers due to the fact they force companies to put products out for a quick buck.

I think that mythic will add the cities and lost classes down the road when they believe they have them ready, and I know most of the players will miss both cities and classes until that time. Maybe, just maybe we will get a quality product instead of a shoddy crappy MMO which seems to be the main drive these days.

Where have we heard all this before... "oh it will not make launch, but will be added later"

I am so sick off mmos today!

Originally posted by Draccan

Dammit ....all the stuff I thought Mythic would never do!!

Why not just postpone and deliver as promised. Cutting these classes MAKES NO SENSE.

First of all Choppas - there are no ORCS now, only 2 gobbos and a black orc for WARHAMMER?
And no Knight of the Burning Sun = no empire knights??? You have Witch Hunters but no knights of the empire???

This makes no sense. And cutting down to two cities?? Why is that?

You are starting to go the Funcom route. And if this news stands I am going to skip WAR all together!!!

I spent all this time defending WAR and Mythic for year. Now I feel like a sucker.

/I am out till they take this back - if this is the route for WAR then I am out. Delay rather than cut content.
Draccan

p.s. why are all MMO companies the same!?!?!?!?

*hugely dissappointed face* :mad:

No, if they were going the Funcom route, they'd ship the game with all that broken and unfinished content and try to fix it post launch while never owning up to the fact they didn't deliver what they said they were going to deliver. Mythic took the smart route and came forward with what they felt they could deliver in a great, polished form and took the stuff that they felt didn't work, shelved it and (hopefully) will implement it later when they feel it meets their standards of quality and fun.
 

Damned if they do, damned if they don't with you, eh? I suggest you play what's shipped before delivering epic QQ'ing. You might just be pleasantly surprised.

First of all Punkbuster - Great idea, I have always been a fan of punkbuster and have always supported it in other online games, it's about the best option you can have for cheat protection and has the option of hardware bans as well as IP bans.  Nothing will ever be perfect but punkbuster is as close as you can come to keeping up with the latest hacks etc so good on them for this one.

Cities - I have always thought that to have 2 large capital cities is better than having multiple cities anyway.  This turns the battles for those cities even MORE epic is scale and importance.  Fully support this decision.

Classes - Disappointing, but a very mature decision by Mythic to do this and announce it at this stage.  Shows they are in it for the long term and continue their degree of honesty with the potential fanbase.  As much as we may not want to hear it, I would prefer they did this now than throw the classes in half done like some other recent games we could mention.

-In summary they made the mature and correct decision, and props to them for announcing this now to the public and explaining their reasons.  Whatever backlash they receive because of this, would be nothing compared to the problems and bad press that would occur had they not done this and left unfinished classes and cities in at release.

Originally posted by Draccan

Originally posted by Sortran

Though this news is sad, I tend to think that they cities were not up to what they wanted, and may be same way for the players. As for the class cuts these will hurt as alot of people wanted to play those 4 classes. One thing for certain that i am glad to see, is Mythic dumping EA. EA has done very little in terms of being a good publisher and their methods tend to annoy alot of gamers due to the fact they force companies to put products out for a quick buck.

I think that mythic will add the cities and lost classes down the road when they believe they have them ready, and I know most of the players will miss both cities and classes until that time. Maybe, just maybe we will get a quality product instead of a shoddy crappy MMO which seems to be the main drive these days.

 

Where have we heard all this before... "oh it will not make launch, but will be added later"

I am so sick off mmos today!

 

So by your logic no game or even program will ever be released. If a developer wait to have everything they wanted in a program before release would now just be getting the first everquest. A program is like any other product, you can't work on it forever to you think it's perfect.

It seems there are some big idiots. 4 captial cities cut means just that, they were cut. Not the realm they were connected to. There is still plenty to do, and the cap cities is NOT the only siege content. There are keeps too. A city isn't suppose to be sieged for a few months anyway in the game.

If your sick of this Draccen just kill yourself now. It's happens in every product area. Just more noticed in the programming world.

Cities doesnt bother me.

Classes I'm abit pissed off about - mainly because its 2 tank and 2 dps ones, meaning the 2 forms of melee classes. Yet casters are happy as larry, which is abit of a pissabout considering I'm not a caster person at all. Therefore giving less choice to melee fans. But if its a decision that will help the overall game

But Punkbuster is the main issue. I cannot stand that "software", it does nothing but hinder those who genuinly want to play the game. I mean the damn thing now decides it wants to run in the background 24/7 whether your on a game or not.

What saddens me the most in all of this is that the "feel" will be gone. It's really going to be a war between Chaos and Empire, with the rest of the races on the sideline.

Good point. Does Vanguard have their Inquistor and Berserker yet???

Do we know of any games that removed professions, promising them at a later date and really did add them in?

WOW!!!! what a let down all this time and you guys decide to ditch four cities and four classes?

I personally would rather you push the game to mid 2009.

I can see it now, i'm a greenskin fighting through all the Dwarf/skin tiers to finally be rewarded with the Human city to sack? wtf

I've been following WAR for so long..... maybe i'll sub sometime in 2010 when four cities and four classes make it back in.

Till then i'll be playing Eve and maybe WotLK

No orcs in a warhammer game. What the hell are they thin