Cities doesnt bother me.

Classes I'm abit pissed off about - mainly because its 2 tank and 2 dps ones, meaning the 2 forms of melee classes. Yet casters are happy as larry, which is abit of a pissabout considering I'm not a caster person at all. Therefore giving less choice to melee fans. But if its a decision that will help the overall game

But Punkbuster is the main issue. I cannot stand that "software", it does nothing but hinder those who genuinly want to play the game. I mean the damn thing now decides it wants to run in the background 24/7 whether your on a game or not.

What saddens me the most in all of this is that the "feel" will be gone. It's really going to be a war between Chaos and Empire, with the rest of the races on the sideline.

Good point. Does Vanguard have their Inquistor and Berserker yet???

Do we know of any games that removed professions, promising them at a later date and really did add them in?

WOW!!!! what a let down all this time and you guys decide to ditch four cities and four classes?

I personally would rather you push the game to mid 2009.

I can see it now, i'm a greenskin fighting through all the Dwarf/skin tiers to finally be rewarded with the Human city to sack? wtf

I've been following WAR for so long..... maybe i'll sub sometime in 2010 when four cities and four classes make it back in.

Till then i'll be playing Eve and maybe WotLK

No orcs in a warhammer game. What the hell are they thinking? I don't even care about the classes themselves being gone so much as what thier removal means in terms of the IP. The cities though, that sucks--I don't even understand how they can cut 4 cities out when the whole point of the game is fighting over those cities. They might as well cut all the races other than chaos and empire. Extremely disheartening news, even the biggest fans now are questioning whether to get this game.

Hear that sound?... Its the sound of thousands of WOTLK being pre-ordered because people know WAR isn't shaping up to be what they thought.

 

Sure WAR isn't going to have everything i want right away and that does disappoint me.  It disappoints me because i expected more from Mythic.  However, I still think the game is going to be damn fun.  They still have done a better job of getting things they wanted into the game then most other companies.  It's not like they started the game without any form of meaningful pvp or talked about having Hero Classes and then never did anything about it.

Originally posted by fishytoothy

No orcs in a warhammer game. What the hell are they thinking? I don't even care about the classes themselves being gone so much as what thier removal means in terms of the IP. The cities though, that sucks--I don't even understand how they can cut 4 cities out when the whole point of the game is fighting over those cities. They might as well cut all the races other than chaos and empire. Extremely disheartening news, even the biggest fans now are questioning whether to get this game.

think about this GW was informed about this.......they have been breathing over the shoulder of Mythic the entire time (not a bad thing but i couldn't think of another "example")  GW understands this and why this will be good for the game...sure i am pissed like everyone else, but overall this WAS A GOOD MOVE and the game will benefit and there are still TONS of classes and now we just get another expansion or patch to add MORE content which, sure was going to be at launch, but now think about it walking through the greenskin and highelf cities for the first time with everyone going " OMG this is SWEET"

i am keeping my pre-order and will still enjoy this game even with my order class (KoTBS) cut...

Originally posted by Hathi

Good point. Does Vanguard have their Inquistor and Berserker yet???

Do we know of any games that removed professions, promising them at a later date and really did add them in?

 

Exactly!!

For those who say you'd rather they delay the game than release without the cities and classes, here's what you do:

Stop whining.  Pretend they are taking your advice.  Don't buy the game when it is released.  If they have added the cities and classes by next summer, buy the game then.

(Actually, you'll probably be back in this same position by then either way, falling in love with games that don't exist yet and hating everything that is actually real.  But to each his own.)

sup funcom

Originally posted by Hexxeity

For those who say you'd rather they delay the game than release without the cities and classes, here's what you do:

Stop whining.  Pretend they are taking your advice.  Don't buy the game when it is released.  If they have added the cities and classes by next summer, buy the game then.

(Actually, you'll probably be back in this same position by then either way, falling in love with games that don't exist yet and hating everything that is actually real.  But to each his own.)

What is your advice for when they have to spend the first 6-8 months fixing bugs and balancing the content before they can even start to add this stuff back in, and then what if they think they can add this as an expansion and charge for it??

PUNKBUSTER     No way in hell installing that on my PC.

Originally posted by haltea

what a sick joke,  cutting out 2/3 of content from the game, i dont care anymore when this crap is released, another fail...

oh shut up

there are only 2 failures:

1. you

2. a company that keeps everything under NDA until the very last day

if you played AoC you probably felt ripped off and lied to, well thats what happened

i dont see it here, do you?

and what about "will come later" (for the capitals) and "might come later" (for the classes) dont you understand?

i cant believe you actually posted that shit

unrelated,

as for punkbuster.. i cant say im pleased to hear about it

then again WoW has a one silently running.. you just dont hear about it

and they will probably do more server-side than client-side..

so waiting eagerly for the game ;)

i just hope the animations are great for a 2008 MMO.. they really do make a difference imo

 Well, I am saddened by the news. But, my White Lion is still in there.

 I don't know what to think right now. First thing that hit me was 'here we go again'...just like all the other games out there that turn out to be a disappointment.

 But, at least they were honest and told us up front. I can respect that. I will prolly still get the game upon release...unless more bad news hits us. Then I will wait. Depressing.

Originally posted by Hathi

Good point. Does Vanguard have their Inquistor and Berserker yet???

Do we know of any games that removed professions, promising them at a later date and really did add them in?

 

Did vanguard have the backing of a company like EA? lol no it had SOE, yea great company to be backed by. And was vanguard as popular as WAR is? Nope. So you fail.

Look at what they plan for the cities, they plan on fixing any problems found with the current cities and put them in the ones not in yet. So we will just get better and better cities. God so much fucking whining these days. No wonder emo music is so popular.

Ouch so the only good news is that we can't cheat?

2 cities could be a bad thing. Thats one of the things I hated about EQ2. Also performance sucked in cities with half the server in one zone.

Still looking forward to the game and I am glad they will not put something broken into the game. That would be much worse then dropping something but at the same I am disappointed by the news. 

Thanks Mythic. Seriously, thank you. If they think it's not fun, not good enough, rich and fabulous then don't put them at launch. I don't care about people who whines about "Meh, not my fav char and city then I won't play, *buh buh... snoty nose* ".
I'm really glad they made this hard decision in the name of good and fair play.
And I thank them again for being honest to us.

Cheers to Mythic!!!

blah this cutting content is retarded

i already beta'ed the Choppa.. give us what is promised.. this is silly

FINISH THE GAME ... THEN RELEASE

Originally posted by Draccan

blah this cutting content is retarded

i already beta'ed the Choppa.. give us what is promised.. this is silly

 

FINISH THE GAME ... THEN RELEASE

 

Why? Also a program is never finished. Especially a MMO. Cutting content is not retarded. If you think so, stop using any electronic device now. Since every program as something cut from it in development.

 Oh and any if they complain about PB still be on when not playing a game. DISABLE IT. Not hard. Not to mention who cares if it's running? Not like it's a virus scanning actually taking up a good amount of resources.

You = /wrist.

Well... I haven't tested/played the game so I don't know what I'm missing or gaining from this cut but I'll save my judgement till I play beta. Punkbuster is a good decision.