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Originally posted by l3lasphemer

Originally posted by Recant

Every time you write a diatribe on how much you think WoW sucks and everyone that plays it is a moron, you lose a sliver of your soul, which is harvested by Blizzard and used to fuel the WoW servers.

With every word you type you make yourself more their servant.

 

The force is strong with this one....

 

Anyway, I played WoW since 1 week after release and enjoyed every moment of it up until the dailies came out.  After grinding so many dailies until my eyes bled, I decided that it was time to look for something else.  I miss my ingame friends, but resubbing is not worth it for me. 

Eventually WoW will go by the wayside, long time from now probably, but still it will happen.  Carthage fell, Rome fell, it took years but it did happen.  WoW is in decline in my opinion, they will get some people back with the expansion, but after all is said and done, they will realize that it is just the same old thing, new continent, new levels and new spells. 

The standard MMO formula needs a boost, I cannot think of any games coming soon that may be that boost, but I sit by waiting patiently.  Until then I will be in the World of Telon.

 

 

Man if you ever wanted justification in calling a game crack it's dailies.  Oh crap I have to work in 1 hour and I have to squeeze my dailies in I hope not too late to work.  Or you're about to go to bed and you're like oh nuts I forgot to do my dailies, then you go to bed a couple hours later.  Only other time I ever brought this up I was made fun of but really what is an addiction, something you have to do at certain intervals of time usually at the detriment of your health or work or something like that.

Blackrock Mountain pvp > areNAH. Also how can not miss late night BRD emp runs?! 5hrs of pure epicness. It's as though they downgraded WoW with TBC.

I lol at this post but sadly he has a point....

Originally posted by shae

You (in this case, Blizzard) simply cannot please everyone and WoW is the perfect example of this.

Had they done nothing but concentrate on BG's over the last year I can almost Guarantee everyone here that you'd be here bitching and complaining that Blizzard sucks because they haven't come out with any new Mechanics.

Had they done nothing but concentrate on on PvE you'd be here bitching and complaining that the game catered to carebears and PvE wanna-be EQ gamers.

Had they done nothing but concentrate on PvP you'd be here bitching that they lost site of their end game and PvP was all the game is about now.

Had they not come out with any gear or made the gear to funky or different, again, you'd be right here  bitching and complaining about this and that.

Does Blizzard wish they could provide every single fan, every single ounce of perfection they so direly want and deserve, I can promise you they do, as does every other single developer in the known world. Unfortunately it just not doable.

Blizzard, even with it's nearly bottomless war chest of funds, still has to make priorities on gameplay features and design. They still have to make sure what goes in the game works and that everyone is being as catered to as possible. No you may not like it and god knows no one is holding a gun to anyone's head and forcing them to play but in my opinion Blizzard does a pretty damn fine job of at least attempting to find a decent medium for every fan to get  little somethin somethin.

Does the pendulum swing a little heavy to one side on occasion? i think it does, so do you apparently, and that's fair but I give credit where credit is due. Blizzard is dealing and producing for a client base never before seen by any MMO in History, the simple fact that the game continues to run well on a daily basis is a miracle in its own right.

So perhaps, if I may be so bold, it should be you who takes a leap off the proverbial high horse, try to look at a slightly larger picture and put yourself in their shoes.

Yeah they took priority of PvE over PvP.  I don't think  the PvErs are complaining that much.  You can't please everyone but lets face it, wow in current form is a PvE centric game.  All people are saying is that there hopefully wil come a good PvP centric game in the future for them to play.  Unfortunately, there are not really any really good ones out atm to satiate PvPers.

WoW is a PvE success no doubt about it.  But a PvP failure in many respects at the same time.  But like you said you can't balance PvP around a PvE game.  It's really hard.

WoW is a PvE game with PvP as a remote afterthought.

Originally posted by Beatnik59

Success breeds apathy.  I've seen it in UO and Everquest.  I also see it in Blizzard, as Starcraft II looks very dated when we see games on the bleeding edge of RTS.

Now hold on one second...  I assume you're talking about bleeding edge GRAPHICS, not the incredible design that Blizzard puts into its RTS and that most others lack.  Blizzard has never gone for graphics alone, because it has been shown again and again to not have staying power.  You want a ledgendary game like Starcraft?  Design it well, and it won't matter what it looks like.

 Also, I've just gotta say:
 
Blizzard doesn't even have to try.  Why try if the entire MMO market isn't even close?  If the industry is evolving at a glacier pace, afraid to try the slightest new idea, then why should Blizzard push the envelope when it's already on top?
 
WoW will not change until it feels threatened.  It absorbed WAR's Tome of Knowledge, and that's a good sign that someone made WoW feel threatened.  But if there IS a threat, WoW just absorbs it into itself.
 
You know, resistance is futile and all that.

You all talk about how WoW isn't bringing any groundbreaking ideas into the mmo market...Maybe this is because they don't want to risk having a game that actually does poorly, so my conspiracy theory is that they are secretly funding Dark Fall to try out a ton of new ideas in a mmo that they can absorb into a good triple A title.

Originally posted by Drezeks

You all talk about how WoW isn't bringing any groundbreaking ideas into the mmo market...Maybe this is because they don't want to risk having a game that actually does poorly, so my conspiracy theory is that they are secretly funding Dark Fall to try out a ton of new ideas in a mmo that they can absorb into a good triple A title.

It wasn't doing any worse pre-TBC. Only reason TBC was so successful is because classic WoW set it up for success. TBC totally destroy classic WoW's greatness.

Originally posted by Rogue420

I may or may not play WAR, but I hope it annihilates WoW.

No one forces you to play WoW, no one forces your friends to play WoW. They play it because it has a lot of content and a good gameplay engine. Welcome to a free market economy, if you're looking for a dictatorship where you are the dictator then you may wish to access your dreams.....