WAR (Warhammer Online)

Originally posted by Satarious

Originally posted by altairzq

They are not going to create official forums. They send us to fansites. And when fansites get a mind of their own, they freak out. Sorry Mythic, you can't have it all!

 

Please.  That's just dumb.  Fansites will exist with or without official forums.  WoW has official forums and there are plenty of WoW fansites out there with "minds of their own" and all.  That's no excuse for admins of those fansites  to act like jack asses.  Your desperation to find ways to disparage Mythic is pretty pathetic.

Your answer is dumb. It's true that fansites will exist with or eithout official forums, but that's not the point, the point is that they send us to the fansites, thinking that they will be an extension of Mythic, a bunch of fanbois kissing Mythic's ass.

But it seems that at least one has a mind of  its own, they are not Mythic and they speak their voice, and now Mythic feels like that they don't have that right... But they do, it's Mythic that don't have the right to be pissed off.

The only thing they did is to show how weak they are, lowering themselves at the same level as the administrator of a fansite.

Is Browncoat 12 years old? Has he never seen a MMO release? I'd take his position away.

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by Satarious

Originally posted by altairzq

They are not going to create official forums. They send us to fansites. And when fansites get a mind of their own, they freak out. Sorry Mythic, you can't have it all!

 

Please.  That's just dumb.  Fansites will exist with or without official forums.  WoW has official forums and there are plenty of WoW fansites out there with "minds of their own" and all.  That's no excuse for admins of those fansites  to act like jack asses.  Your desperation to find ways to disparage Mythic is pretty pathetic.

 

Your answer is dumb. It's true that fansites will exist with or eithout official forums, but that's not the point, the point is that they send us to the fansites, thinking that they will be an extension of Mythic, a bunch of fanbois kissing Mythic's ass.

 

But it seems that at least one has a mind of  its own, they are not Mythic and they speak their voice, and now Mythic feels like that they don't have that right... But they do, it's Mythic that don't have the right to be pissed off.

 

The only thing they did is to show how weak they are, lowering themselves at the same level as the administrator of a fansite.

And if no Mythic devs or employees, nevermind the head of the company, ever visited fansites you'd say "they don't care about the customers. They don't have official forums, hell, they don't even care about the fansites!" Your argument is conflicting. And no one has to visit the fansites. I'm a fan and I've visited WHA maybe three times.

So are you saying that because one has a different opinion, which is fine, Mythic can't defend their choices? Huh? Isn't that a little unfair? You get pissed at Mythic for explaining and defending their process but the admin of a fansite can blame Mythic for trying to trick the public and you're A-OK with it.

Try again.

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by Satarious

Originally posted by altairzq

They are not going to create official forums. They send us to fansites. And when fansites get a mind of their own, they freak out. Sorry Mythic, you can't have it all!

 

Please.  That's just dumb.  Fansites will exist with or without official forums.  WoW has official forums and there are plenty of WoW fansites out there with "minds of their own" and all.  That's no excuse for admins of those fansites  to act like jack asses.  Your desperation to find ways to disparage Mythic is pretty pathetic.

 

Your answer is dumb. It's true that fansites will exist with or eithout official forums, but that's not the point, the point is that they send us to the fansites, thinking that they will be an extension of Mythic, a bunch of fanbois kissing Mythic's ass.

 

But it seems that at least one has a mind of  its own, they are not Mythic and they speak their voice, and now Mythic feels like that they don't have that right... But they do, it's Mythic that don't have the right to be pissed off.

 

The only thing they did is to show how weak they are, lowering themselves at the same level as the administrator of a fansite.

Truthfully I don't think either of them are in the right. Browncoat was wrong to attack Mythic like he did. Mark was wrong to losing his cool like he did. Fanboi or no fanboi...you don't throw a tantrum because you didn't get everything you want. Mark should have just said "Hey, we are really working hard on getting guild beta up and running. If we gave you all the information now, what would we have later to grab your attention? We want to keep things as exciting as we can all the way up to launch so that people don't just get bored and give up. I promise that there will be much more information by the end of August. Just have a little patience and trust us. Everything will come out in good time". I can understand his anger though. And as for the forums...I'm -extremely- happy that they are letting it up to other sites. Less QQ and more pewpew IMO. I think Mythic needs to politely remove WHA off of their website, but that's just me.

The only people who think MJ lowered himself are those with conflicting interest. He didn't attack Browncoat like Browncoat attacked Mythic by calling them tricksters(aka Funcom, Sigil, D&L devs). In fact, he said he was replying because of Mythic's relationship with WHA. Was he firm? Yes. Did he have an attitude? Sure did. I found it profession, though. Being professional isn't always nodding your head yes while taking it up the bum. Those of you who think that are wrong.

MJ was probably surprised that a fan website admin didn't know how the MMO industry works. No game has ever given away everything before launch or at the least NDA. Sometimes you have to be firm, and that's what MJ did.

Originally posted by Ascension08

And if no Mythic devs or employees, nevermind the head of the company, ever visited fansites you'd say "they don't care about the customers. They don't have official forums, hell, they don't even care about the fansites!" Your argument is conflicting. And no one has to visit the fansites. I'm a fan and I've visited WHA maybe three times.

So are you saying that because one has a different opinion, which is fine, Mythic can't defend their choices? Huh? Isn't that a little unfair? You get pissed at Mythic for explaining and defending their process but the admin of a fansite can blame Mythic for trying to trick the public and you're A-OK with it.

Try again.

My argument isn't conflicting, just an FYI. I think the lack of official forum is a terrible sign, always have.

I'm not so happy with Mythic for reasons well beyond that one (latest) comment from MJ or whatever his name is. I think there is a lot more to that post by Browncoat than is merely typed.

Originally posted by brostyn

The only people who think MJ lowered himself are those with conflicting interest. He didn't attack Browncoat like Browncoat attacked Mythic by calling them tricksters(aka Funcom, Sigil, D&L devs). In fact, he said he was replying because of Mythic's relationship with WHA. Was he firm? Yes. Did he have an attitude? Sure did. I found it profession, though. Being professional isn't always nodding your head yes while taking it up the bum. Those of you who think that are wrong.

MJ was probably surprised that a fan website admin didn't know how the MMO industry works. No game has ever given away everything before launch or at the least NDA. Sometimes you have to be firm, and that's what MJ did.

MJ lowered himself several notches before, fairly consistently too, if I recall correctly. It wasn't professional. The relationship WHA has with the company itself is an odd one, period. I don't think that's an MMO industry thing either.

Originally posted by Ascension08

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by Satarious

Originally posted by altairzq

They are not going to create official forums. They send us to fansites. And when fansites get a mind of their own, they freak out. Sorry Mythic, you can't have it all!

 

Please.  That's just dumb.  Fansites will exist with or without official forums.  WoW has official forums and there are plenty of WoW fansites out there with "minds of their own" and all.  That's no excuse for admins of those fansites  to act like jack asses.  Your desperation to find ways to disparage Mythic is pretty pathetic.

 

Your answer is dumb. It's true that fansites will exist with or eithout official forums, but that's not the point, the point is that they send us to the fansites, thinking that they will be an extension of Mythic, a bunch of fanbois kissing Mythic's ass.

 

But it seems that at least one has a mind of  its own, they are not Mythic and they speak their voice, and now Mythic feels like that they don't have that right... But they do, it's Mythic that don't have the right to be pissed off.

 

The only thing they did is to show how weak they are, lowering themselves at the same level as the administrator of a fansite.

And if no Mythic devs or employees, nevermind the head of the company, ever visited fansites you'd say "they don't care about the customers. They don't have official forums, hell, they don't even care about the fansites!" Your argument is conflicting. And no one has to visit the fansites. I'm a fan and I've visited WHA maybe three times.

So are you saying that because one has a different opinion, which is fine, Mythic can't defend their choices? Huh? Isn't that a little unfair? You get pissed at Mythic for explaining and defending their process but the admin of a fansite can blame Mythic for trying to trick the public and you're A-OK with it.

Try again.

what i find funny about this whole arguement is that, people are nit picking mythic who has been generaly better at giving info then other companies, but yet there is still this "OMG THEY PLAY TRICKS". this is what i dont understand, now you get more then usualy and they still bitch and go as far as calling them AOC, i didnt see AOC give this much info, or many other games.

And yes i agree with who i quoted, i know if they didnt say anything it would be "they dont care" the feeling we got in WOW with certain classes (like shamans back in the day)
 

As for the lack of official forums, have you seen AOC or WOW forums? full of so much crap,keyloggers,spam,trolls its very hard to find info if ya wanted to. Only thing thats good is relm forums i can see helpfull

as for the lack of being a professional i think its kinda refreshing, rather then being some txt or that guy who made the game, it gives you a more down to earth feel with the company, yes these are people, not drones. i mean paul is a great example.

just play the game and have fun.