World of Warcraft

I don't dislike World of Warcraft.  I'm just bored with it.  I feel the same for the majority of MMORPGs though.

I think some people touched on this ( im not 100% sure, im too drunk right now) but honestly WoW has taken the multiplayer out of MMO. EVERYTHING can be done solo in the game. (leveling, getting gear, pvp, grinding, etc) to all people that played MMORPG's before WoW, we know that you mostly had to group to level, grinding was an asset to leveling and PvP had a goal and/or purpose (at least for my DAoC and UO buddies)

On the other-hand, WoW makes everything like a single player RPG. you are the hero and only you can do everything (apparently). The only difference is that in single player RPG's u still needed a group to get the job done (regardless if u controlled their actions or not). In my opinion a game (especially a multiplayer game) needs to be an interaction with other people, at least helping others to accomplish a common goal, and for pvp, working together against another group to compete.

And this is why i hate WoW, not because its mainsteam or because it took other ideas and made them popular, it is simply a single player game dressed up in an online outfit. I'd rather play The Witcher or Mass Effect, atleast i dont have to waste $15 a month to replay it.

im in the "bored with it" crowd as well.  honestly when i hear that people have been playing it for years i just think "how"??!!  i couldnt play anything for years.  i played wow longer than ive ever played any video game.  wow was the first mmo i had ever played, althouhg i had played almost every pen and paper rpg ever.  a freind gave me a trial and when i got to lvl 20 loooong b4 the trila ran out i was hooked, but after 2 70s and a slew of lvl 30+ toons i cant do another quest in azeroth...yawn.  what really made me stop playing though was all the dumb, rude people, most of whome i assumed where 12 or so.  i was bored with the game and then the people just made it so that i couldnt take it anymore.  i dont hate the game though and i actually hope that by the time LK comes out i feel like playing agian, but i probly wont, at this moment i have zero interest.

i found a free game i like so ill stick with that for now :)  maybe until champions comes out or they make a sci-fi game thats good.  thats my prob with the mmo genre in general and is a constant turn off for me, y does almost every game have to be fantasy based?

Originally posted by Beauman

Originally posted by rasgrix

because there are two communities, the "mmo" community and the "WoW" community, this is the "mmo" community made up of players who played many mmos and people looking for games different from WoW

 

Really?

Gosh-darn, sarge, imagine that.

And here I thought I was a member of the MMO community.  After all, I've played:

Everquest

Everquest 2

Earth & Beyond

Anarchy Online

Acheron's Call

Acheron's Call 2

Dark Age of Camelot

Star Wars Galaxies

City of Heroes/Villains

Matrix Online

World of Warcraft

Lord of the Rings Online (at least some of the trial)

 . . . and just resubbed to World of Warcraft.

But, hey, that must make me a member of the "WoW Community".

*moron*

yes and everyone is you, of course there are people in between, but you can make a poll on here, and ask how many people like both WoW and other mmos, if the majority of people agree with you then i stand corrected

Originally posted by rasgrix

 

yes and everyone is you, of course there are people in between, but you can make a poll on here, and ask how many people like both WoW and other mmos, if the majority of people agree with you then i stand corrected

I like WoW, and I'm also a MMO vet. There are a lot of very experienced MMO gamers playing WoW. I've played nearly every graphical MMO that has come out since UO, and before UO I was playing MUDs. Let's face it, WoW is 'the' PvE raiding game out there at the moment and this is what draws in many of the old school gamers, raids are the most important aspect of MMOs for me personally.

In terms of the WoW community. My guild has an average age of over 25, and the people I associate with within the game are much more refined and articulate than the majority of the posters on these boards.

''Hello my name is X and I like playing MMORPGs'' -''Oh, so is your main on Horde or Alliance?''

That's the reason I dislike World of Warcraft. People take it as THE MMORPG and instantly assume, that if you play MMORPG you are playing World of Warcraft.

Back when the game came out most of the bashers were calling it the greatest thing on god green earth...now that it is the big dog they bash it for being successful.  People hate success.

Originally posted by Sunrider

There's a few contributing factors to the dislike of WoW:

-They keep screwing over long-time players: If you've played before TBC you'll know what i mean by this, they keep taking all your hard-earned gear, which this game is centered around, and making it worthless with every expansion.

-Gear: This game is probably one of the most gear needy games that I know of. But its not just the gear, but its the fact that the best gear is acquired through hours upon hours of grinding and there is no player-made gear that is worth it.

-Crafting: The crafting is useless for the most part, aside from such things as repair bots, potions and the sorts. The best player crafted gear is Bind on Pickup. WTF. You waste like 5,000 gold on a recipe for a sword or armor, and make it ONCE, because you cant get any return from what you spent to get it. Whats worse is that then you go to a dungeon and find a sword to replace that one you made and you go "oh... well that was a waste of money".

-GRIND: Its cleverly disguised as a quest system "go bring me 20 pig intestines and I'll make you some soup". How many mother f*cking pigs do you have to kill to get there intestines???!! I've killed thousands of pigs and they're missing there entrails. There's something seriously wrong with this!! Bats without wings... pigs without guts... bandits without mask that clearly have mask... IT GETS OLD! But it doesn't stop there, no. Then you have the "gold grind". In NO other game have I come across a worse need for money. The repair bills are horrible for purple gear, and blacksmiths cant even fix it for a cheaper price to help them make some cash. Not only this but the crafting in the game doesn't let you make money. Hell, i have never played a game that the crafting is so horrible that you LOSE money selling things. You make more money selling the ingredients then the actual product. Something is very wrong with this system and Blizzard wonders why there are these gold farming companies making MINTS off of their game.

-Balance: So many people keep bitching about the balance between classes. MMO's are social games. Get this through your heads. You NEED other classes to complete objectives. No, I don't think you should ALWAYS need someone else to help you complete objectives, but yes for many things you should. If a warrior is out dps-ing a rogue, there's a problem. If a druid is out-healing a priest, there's a problem.

-PvP: As mentioned with the balance complaint, you're not meant to be the solution to all problems, but in WoW people play like that. As a warlock you shouldn't be able to go toe to toe with a warrior, but I've seen it done. There's something wrong with this... that and that gear is the ONLY influence over whos the better man in PvP.

Now aside from all these faulty game mechanics there is the problem of the awful community. I cant stand trade chat. I turn it off its just that awful. The forums are even worse.

The game itself has set the progression of MMO's back quite a few years as there is no thought, strategy or skills to create a good character. There is nothing innovative about the game at all.

Lastly a major obstacle that needs to be overcome by other developers is that they all want the numbers that WoW has. Its not going to happen and the financial backers of other developers want this. Because of this you need to find someone with faith in your development abilities and deep, deep pockets. WoW is a freak of nature and its success probably wont be recreated again. If any other game gets a million active subscribers then that will be a good day for games.

Overall WoW just shunts the growth of the genre as long as it remains as popular as it has. Because of this, other potential games that could have a lot to offer rarely make it out of the starting gate, and many people who started with WoW are now looking for the next thing, thats a little more advanced and has a little more depth then what WoW has to offer... and it wont happen for a while.

I love this post.

Look a whole post about hating success.