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I am looking to make a decent gaming pc desktop with about $500. I have some old speakers that i can use and a integrated sound card. [Will having a crappy sound card slow up gameplay??] Other than that i have nothing but super crap parts. Im looking for good ram [4gb] and decent graphics card [?].
Thanks for all of your help!
Located in US
Currently Playing: Guild Wars, Dungeon Runners. |
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7/06/08 9:01:52 AM#2
Whats your PSU, and is your case reusable? --- |
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7/06/08 9:45:01 AM#3
Alright, heres a system:
Motherboard: BIOSTAR TForce TF720 A2+ AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA nForce 720a ATX AMD Motherboard Graphics Card: BFG Tech BFGE88512GTOCXFE GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card PSU: FG Tech BFGR650PSU 650W ATX 12v 2.0 / EPS 12V Power Supply Total: $511.96 (without tax)
I chose the cheapest of the top line of Motherboards so your PC will have a good amount of upgradability. Which saves money in the long run. I decided against SLI CPU its a 2.6 x2 which can be OC'd to a 2.8 on stock fan quite easily, Its enough to get you by for the next year, then when prices drop again you can invest in something more powerful (3.0ghz+). CPU isnt the highest requirement for MMO's atm so its not a biggy. Memory, Ive bought the best you can by, why? becuase theres very little price difference between different speeds/types so in the long run you save money by not having to upgrade it, I would have liked to get corsair but I went with the most economical option. I imagine 4gb will last you up to 2 years before you have to increase the capacity. Graphics, I put in an 8800GT, I use one myself, its an excellent card, this one comes pre OC'd with a good fan for little more then $10 extra, a bargain in my eyes. BFG are my personal preferance, they offer lifetime warrantys on their goods and their OC's are very reliable. These are your barebones, if you can salvage your HDD, DVD and case, your sorted. Theres alot of upgradability in this machine, the motherboard could last up to and over 4 years. Couple of items I also recommend:
HDD01: Western Digital Raptor WD740ADFD 74GB 10000 RPM SATA 1.5Gb/s Hard Drive Put your OS on this and your systems load times with reduce dramatically. Can also cut down on freezing & hitching. HDD 02: Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive This is basically for mass storage, installing your games onto this HDD so they are on a seperate HDD to your OS can increase performance and reduce load times. Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card Takes the strain of Sound processing off the CPU relieving power for other system tasks. It also greatly improves your sound quality.
Thats it, if you reuse your old case, make sure you check the dimensions of the motherboard to the case, same goes for the PSU. Nothing worse then buying all the kit then finding out you cant use the case. You will also want to look at the cases cooling. Hope this helps. * EDIT: CPU modified due to error. --- |
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ok this all sounds great, except that i am not familiar with the term 'motherboard' what is it exactly? i probably know it as something else.
Currently Playing: Guild Wars, Dungeon Runners. |
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7/06/08 10:40:00 AM#5
Originally posted by SamMc247
The motherboard is the big circuit board that holds all the other components of the PC together. If you don't know what a motherboard is, it might be wise to read up a lot on the web before starting to build a PC. Not that it's hard to build a PC, it's actually pretty easy, but you should study it for a good week or two before having a go at building for the first time. Get to know the lingo and what people are talking about, and find out about the potential pitfalls. Also, try and make sure you've got access to another PC on the web, or a nearby internet cafe, if the thing doesn't work first time. Sometimes, you will put the thing together, switch it on and nothing happens, either because you've misstepped and forgotten something, or because there's some actual problem, like an incompatibility or some switch or BIOS setting that needs to be turned on or off, or maybe even a bad part - and if there's a real problem, it's helpful to have access to the internet to be able to read up about problems with certain hardware configurations that crop up. Good luck! |
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7/06/08 12:15:49 PM#6
For one, if you don't know what a motherboard is, you have a lot of research to do.
Secondly, buying a single core processor is a waste of money. If you can save up 500 bucks, you can save up a little more to go dual-core, and preferably not down AMD's choices either.
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7/06/08 12:24:08 PM#7
Originally posted by 7earitup AMD has a very good architecture for its duel cores, the only place that they loose is High end quad core, That is the current fight you have intel and Nvidia- The high end Then you have AMD ATI- Mid range As far as AMD and intel they are relitvly the same in the mid range As for ATI and nvidia , ATI has taken the mid range this round with the 4800 series being better and cheaper. Now if ya want to spend 600 for the 280 with nvidia to get a little more power then go for it. but if ya want to spend 300 for a 4870 thats better then the 260 which is prices higher at 400 then yeah ATI FTW on this round. Black edition AMD processors are awesome btw bout 100(for the processor and high end cooler) starts 2.6 and got mine to 3.2
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ooo. yea yea yea i got it. I was going to go to a local computer parts store to make sure everything is compatible and all of the complicated stuff so i can do the easier more straightforward things.
Anybody else have any sites that i can look up on and study for making a computer? or any other ideas for parts? Does everybody usually get their parts from newegg???
Currently Playing: Guild Wars, Dungeon Runners. |
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Varlok91
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Joined: 1/30/07
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7/06/08 12:53:07 PM#9
Originally posted by godpuppet Thats not a dual core CPU... pay $20 and get an X2. -------------------------------- |
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7/06/08 1:56:22 PM#10
Originally posted by 7earitup Oops, I thought that one was dual core, ill change it now. Not used to using Newegg. >.< --- |
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7/07/08 6:27:14 AM#11
I'm really hesitant about suggesting you build your own PC. You seem really...ill informed. Do you have a computer geek buddy that can help walk you through it? I would advise getting someone to help you on your first build. Don't ask your local PC shop about things like that..they will convince you to let them build for you and charge you an arm and a leg, plus they will have a hell of a mark up on the prices. Definitely order your parts online.
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7/07/08 8:21:05 AM#12
Originally posted by daelnor
I agree with daelnor here, and I think you should do a lot research first, before you start ordering and attempt to build. Here are a few sites that I used to learn the what and how for my first build. http://www.build-gaming-computer-guide.com/ http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/System-Builder-Marathon,1962.html |
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7/07/08 8:22:25 AM#13
yes there are alot of walkthroughs on the web to help you build you own pc |
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7/07/08 8:26:20 AM#14
Originally posted by jdkskip I agree... http://www.build-gaming-computer-guide.com/
Great site, I go to the other two often but I'm always looking for more info.... |
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7/07/08 8:30:42 AM#15
Yep, provided you've got access to the internet whilst you're building it, the process of putting it together is doable. The main problem for new builders is figuring out whats compatible. You cant just buy any piece of hardware and expect it to work with everything. The setup ive put together is all compatible, so you shouldnt get any problems. If you decide to change anything, post it here to get feedback. Infact if you MSN, i'd be happy to help if you get stuck, add me: kane@surrealbx.co.uk --- |
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7/08/08 3:49:43 PM#16
Originally posted by gurugeorge
Especially about counting standoffs and matching each one to a mounting hole in the MB before you screw it down and power it up ROFL. TSSSST POP >smoke< |
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The price your rig suggestion is way over $500 Godpuppet its like $670 some. I dont want to have to do a mail in rebate. im thinking about this Motherboard:www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx CPU:www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx Memory:www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx Video Card:www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx Power Supply:www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx
Is there any problems with this set up? And yes i have done a little bit of reading up on this stuff as well. Currently Playing: Guild Wars, Dungeon Runners. |
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7/19/08 5:34:32 PM#18
Originally posted by SamMc247 Motherboard is the same. CPU, I notice you've gone up to a 3ghz, your call but you dont really need it, 2.7 will do fine for a good year, and it can be OC'd to a 2.9ghz with stock fan if you want to look into that. Memory is the same. GFX card is the same. PSU looks fine, if you want to go with that. --- |
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7/19/08 9:26:19 PM#19
i would suggest a change in video card and assuming the motherboard supports SLI , change it as well. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102747 So much more power for the same price.
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7/19/08 9:28:10 PM#20
Originally posted by SamMc247
Google WAR System Requirements, there's a guide then on that guide is another guide on that guide tells you how to make a pretty good pc for about 500$ |
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