General Discussion

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Originally posted by ronan32

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Originally posted by JustBe

Cause these forums are full of elitist twat heads who think shit games are better as noone plays them so it makes them "hardcore" lol......

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and if you're the opposite of that, then i would rather throw my lot in with the elitist twats..mmorpg.com is mainly made up of old school players who have a dislike for the new generation of mmo's and the new players that they bring, like you.   you know one time mmo's had good communities with nice people, and then wow happened. The worst thing to happen to the genre.

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WRONG! There were always trolls in MMORPG's and there were always bad people, gankers, elitist snobs etc, all the way back to UO. The only difference from now and that "golden age" you try to paint, is that now there are more MMO's out there, so the bad players have become more noticeable due to the bigger numbers and the more choices they have to play. Face it, the REAL reason you are upset, is becaust MMO's have become so popular, you no longer feel "special", so now you make up an excuse to try to paint "back then" as some sort of "golden age".

Sorry pal, I was there (during UO and EQ), and there were a-holes back then too. So don't come blaming this on "the new generation" because this was there during "your generation" too

Originally posted by Bane82

 

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Originally posted by xenogias

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Originally posted by Sornin

 

 WoW is not ranked number one for two reasons:

[*]MMORPG.com is full of angry, disgruntled players who tend to either be elitist/snobby or bitter, and vote against the status quo at every possible opportunity in an attempt to tear down success
The people who are enjoying WoW are either playing the game and not wasting time here slamming it, or are the casual type who do not lurk on MMORPG websites and post their opinions

If you polled every single MMORPG player, otherwise known as taking a census, and asked them what the best MMORPG is, WoW would win. The problem is the sample voting here is not representative of the MMORPG community as a whole. This is a niche community and WoW is not a niche game - it is actually a successful one.
Anyway, always take reviews, opinions, and rankings here with a grain of salt. They mean almost nothing at all.
By the way, I do not currently play WoW but if I were to vote, I would say right now it is the best MMORPG on the market. It is stable, it is full of content, it caters to casual and hardcore players, it has PvE and PvP, and it is polished to a diamond-like brilliance.
But it will still be bashed as the devil of MMORPGs, despite somehow managing to be the most successful MMORPG of all time. Go figure.

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Completely wrong. They want to know why WoW isnt ranked #1 here. Its verry easy to figure out. It has nothing to do with being an eliteist, snobby or anything else. People here are dying for something new.  Most here are MMO vets who have played the classics and want something similar. They are also tired of seeing games come out that arent trying to improve on the industry but are just trying to copy WoW's sucess and they blame WoW for it.....and rightfully so.
Just because people here dont follow the masses like sheep doesnt make them snobby, disgruntled or eliteists. It makes them there own person. Sorry you cant handle that.

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WRONG! no one from Blizzard is putting a gun on ANY of these companies heads and saying "DO IT MORE LIKE WOW!". Face it, the reason why the games YOU want to succeed aren't succeeding is, because they don't have the cojones to try something different and follow their own vision. They're sheep, they're followers, that's why they're not putting out the games you want to play with the game mechanics you want to play.

It's more like the publishers see wow's subscription numbers, and see all those pretty dollar signs. So they force the developers that they are paying, to make the game more like wow so they can make that kind of money. If Eve Online had that kind of subscriber base, and made that kind of money, instead of  wow, then every publisher would make the game more like Eve. Developers usually don't get the chance to make the game they want to make. He who controls the check book controls the world.

WoW has too many haters to be on top. "1/10 because it sucks" is their the only argument

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Originally posted by Koddo

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Originally posted by Bane82

 

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Originally posted by xenogias

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Originally posted by Sornin
 
 WoW is not ranked number one for two reasons:
[*]MMORPG.com is full of angry, disgruntled players who tend to either be elitist/snobby or bitter, and vote against the status quo at every possible opportunity in an attempt to tear down success
The people who are enjoying WoW are either playing the game and not wasting time here slamming it, or are the casual type who do not lurk on MMORPG websites and post their opinions

If you polled every single MMORPG player, otherwise known as taking a census, and asked them what the best MMORPG is, WoW would win. The problem is the sample voting here is not representative of the MMORPG community as a whole. This is a niche community and WoW is not a niche game - it is actually a successful one.
Anyway, always take reviews, opinions, and rankings here with a grain of salt. They mean almost nothing at all.
By the way, I do not currently play WoW but if I were to vote, I would say right now it is the best MMORPG on the market. It is stable, it is full of content, it caters to casual and hardcore players, it has PvE and PvP, and it is polished to a diamond-like brilliance.
But it will still be bashed as the devil of MMORPGs, despite somehow managing to be the most successful MMORPG of all time. Go figure.

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Completely wrong. They want to know why WoW isnt ranked #1 here. Its verry easy to figure out. It has nothing to do with being an eliteist, snobby or anything else. People here are dying for something new.  Most here are MMO vets who have played the classics and want something similar. They are also tired of seeing games come out that arent trying to improve on the industry but are just trying to copy WoW's sucess and they blame WoW for it.....and rightfully so.
Just because people here dont follow the masses like sheep doesnt make them snobby, disgruntled or eliteists. It makes them there own person. Sorry you cant handle that.

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WRONG! no one from Blizzard is putting a gun on ANY of these companies heads and saying "DO IT MORE LIKE WOW!". Face it, the reason why the games YOU want to succeed aren't succeeding is, because they don't have the cojones to try something different and follow their own vision. They're sheep, they're followers, that's why they're not putting out the games you want to play with the game mechanics you want to play.

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It's more like the publishers see wow's subscription numbers, and see all those pretty dollar signs. So they force the developers that they are paying, to make the game more like wow so they can make that kind of money. If Eve Online had that kind of subscriber base, and made that kind of money, instead of  wow, then every publisher would make the game more like Eve. Developers usually don't get the chance to make the game they want to make. He who controls the check book controls the world.

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Exactly my point though Koddo, the publishers don't have the cojones, nor the originality anymore, to pursue THEIR OWN vision of their own game, all they see is money. So who is really to blame here? Sorry, but it's not Blizzards fault the other publishers make stupid mistakes, look at SOE with SWG and see how well THAT went. In fact, in the SWG Vet Refuge forums, I've seen that, while some small group over there do blame WoW for some dumb reason, some of the more logical vets there blame SOE for SWG's downfall and not Blizzard. Again, for being a follower, a sheep, instead of standing tall behind their product.

Originally posted by damian7

Originally posted by Inzra

Originally posted by dragon1613

WoW is by no means the best MMORPG out there. Just has the most subs.

But really it doesn't make sense, it's got 10 mill subs, millions more than any other game, and it's ranked at some 20th or so?

 

there are asian MMOs that make wow look like it has no subs.  why aren't they listed?

no one likes games that force you to raid for hours on end, in order to MAYBE get one item... then to do that same dungeon, in the same exact way, another 40-100 times... then rinse/repeat for the next dungeon.

 

that is the most incredibly boring garbage to ever hit the MMO world.

im not a wow fan boy either but fact is wow is sadly still most completed mmo so far thnks to funcom sigh* Incredibly boring game it  may be for a guy that plays it for 2-3 years so you are wrong Damian 7

Noone forces you to farm raiding in wow..in fact you can only play pvp if you like + some heroics and u can get that way lots of good loot especially pvp gear ,..

*Insert any example you wish*

Quantity (amount of users) Does Not = Quality

This applies to all walks of life, all products in the world and all people in the world.  That is why WoW isn't ranked number 1. 

It's not the best game, only the most popular, why are some people having so much trouble understanding that difference?  Very confusing.

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Originally posted by Vortigon
*Insert any example you wish*
Quantity (amount of users) Does Not = Quality
This applies to all walks of life, all products in the world and all people in the world.  That is why WoW isn't ranked number 1. 
It's not the best game, only the most popular, why are some people having so much trouble understanding that difference?  Very confusing.

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What is "best" is subjective from person to person, use art as an example, can't stand abstract art, I think it's ridiculous that people will spend MILLIONS of dollars to buy something that looks like a bunch of squares put together by a 4 year old, and yet, I love impressionist art like Monet. So, YOU may think WoW is not the best out there, and yet, I believe that, thanks to a lot of publishers having a lack of vision, a lot of their MMO's including the one you may like, are crap. Are you going to say I'm wrong? or are you going to start calling me a "fanboi"? as one movie actor once pointed out: "The ball's in your park Chuckles"

WoW has a large subscription because of advertising, accessibility, and name brand. It isn't "better" or "worse" than any other mainstream MMO on the market. Everything else is just conjecture and post count, that's it.