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huxflux2004  7/05/08 11:52:01 AM

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Originally posted by Polarization

In my personal opinion I think its obvious that Henning Ludvigson has made a significant investment in this company, he is the owner and has tried to keep this project going till completion along with co-owners like Tasos despite the exstended development history, set backs and apparent lack of invenstment.

He’s publicly stated he’s been involved with the project for nearly a decade and that he has to work outside normal working hours at Aventurine to support himself.

From his website.

http://www.henningludvigsen.com/wordpress/?page_id=9

At the end of 2002 I transferred profession, moving from commercial advertisement to computer game development. This section shows some samples of 2D art I?ve done for the MMORPG-game Darkfall.

For the game, Darkfall, I am working as the art director, and doing 2D art, 2D textures, 3D models, GUI, special effects, etc…

…and no, I can’t tell you when Darkfall Beta / release is due to happen ;-)

NOTE: This section will be heavily updated after release of the game, so I only list a tiny fraction of what we have already showed on the official site.

He says he started working as Art director for Darkfall fulltime from the end of 2002, but he does not admit he is the owner.

At the end of 2002 Aventurine was "created" to publish Darkfall and to develop it, obviously Henning Ludvigson made the most significant investmant in Aventurine and thats why he's the owner.

Thats why he has spent years trying to support himself and this company's development of Darkfall.

And I think he now regrets it because it must have been a commitment that has gone on for so long with so little return so far.

He’s the only person we know of involved with this project that has any reputation, substantial experience or credentials in the industry.

And he’s probably the most successful financially out of the developers and producers we know of that own Aventurine, hes the driving force financially behind this company and probebly the reasons why development has continued with so little progress for so long.

Notice how the work he shows on his website is all from 2003-4, hes not even updated it with any thing hes done from the last 5 years.

The dragon he designed over 5 years ago is still on the front page of the official website, this is hardly re-assuring to say the least.

 

Well I dont know wtf he is doing with Darkfall, but his artwork is AWESOME!

 

linky

 
wumptrooper  7/05/08 11:58:39 AM

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Yeah lets add a definite article before "owner" and hope no one notices ;) Do you even know how articles work in English or purposedly manipulate it to support your grand thesis that DFO is vaporware?

Take tiny bits of info from a social networking site, make up the rest and make up wild claims - all in all impressive work. I'm starting to wonder if you get paid for this? I sure hope so, otherwise I'm really sorry for all the time you waste doing this.

 
Polarization  7/05/08 12:10:34 PM

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This is the way the Darkfall ends

Not with a beta but a whimper.

http://www.pixelbrush.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=498&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=darkfall&start=0

Henning Ludvigson's owner of Aventurine S.A and Darkfall, and its Lead Artist's  own words from over a year ago.

Tick and tick, well Razz

I USED to make good money in the ad-agency industry, but got all burned out after almost 10 years doing that. Sold everything I had and moved to Greece to work as a computer game developer (in-which I have NO pre-experience, mind you, hehe).

After 10 years working in the ad-agency making good money he sold everything and moved to Greece, no wonder hes the largest investor and owner of Darkfall and Aventurine, he probebly sold his house or appartment in Oslo.

Basically, I have my fulltime job as Art Director in this game company, well more than full time, really. And since this is our first game, the income is nothing to speak of. We bascially do this because we've been burning for this project for MANY years (I've been involved in it for almost 8 years).

Hes the owner of the company and Darkfall and hes working "more" then full time for 5 years, and the income is nothing to speak of, he's almost working for his own company for free obviosuly with very little outside investment.


But things are hard, and I have to do a lot of extra work to keep things going. I also work for Fantasy Flight Games, and other random commissions and projects that might pop by. I used to do a magazine for a cancer organisation in Norway for 8 years, but they canned me now recently so I'll have to look for something new. Sad

He has to do "a lot of extra work to keep things going", he has to earn money outside his own company from commisions and projects to fund  his own company and to continue development on Darkfall.

No wonder development has been slow, and why so little of Darkfall has every been seen over the last 5 years.

So, basically, computer game stuff during daytime, and during night time, I put on my mask and cape and draw fantasy-related stuff Cowboy

He works on Darkfall for the company he owns during the day, but has to work extra hours on other projects to generate income to invest back into Aventurine, for  Darkfall's development. 

Looking forward to be a real boy with a somewhat normal income again Rolling Eyes
I feel sorry for Mr Ludvigson, he abviously exstremely dedicated and i sincerly hope all this time and money spent is rewarded.

Well, I don't really struggle. The thing is that I my fulltime job is mainly a project I "have" to be involved in (the quest of my life-kind of thing), and this only leave me with little time for personal painting and other projects during evenings and weekends only. And when I limit myself to only doing fantasy-related stuff, it's obvious I don't do it for the money, hehe. I used to do lots of commercial illustrations, and did quite good with that on its own, but not as fun painting topless chicks and tentacles Razz You can't have one without the other, and I chose fun.

He's the biggest investor and owner of Aventurine, because Darkfall is the "quest of his life", he's probebly the only significant financial contributor to this project for the last 5 years, is this ever going to get finished at this rate?

But yeah, the illustration industry is getting harder and harder, unfortunately Sad Fees are getting lower and more illustrators will fight for the projects. Some are really lucky and manages to tie up to some good deals to keep as a base, and this is the way to go and not impossible at all with some decent talent and portfolio to show to

I found this a while ago and posted it here, at the time it rang alarm bells and warning flags, but now i know that hes the owner and largest investor in Darkfall it's much more significant.

Darkfall is Henning Ludvigsons "quest of his life", hes put everything he has into this project financialy and time wise fulltime for 5 years and has been involved for at least 3 years before that, hes probebly the only person keeping this alive.

Hes obviously exstremly dedicated and i sincerly hope this pays of for him, but this is the answer to why this project seems to  progress so slowly, and why it still has so little to show for itself, despite Tasos's attempts over the years to convince us that everything was going well and beta was coming soon etc.

 
Polarization  7/05/08 12:21:58 PM

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This is the way the Darkfall ends

Not with a beta but a whimper.

Originally posted by wumptrooper

Yeah lets add a definite article before "owner" and hope no one notices ;) Do you even know how articles work in English or purposedly manipulate it to support your grand thesis that DFO is vaporware?

Take tiny bits of info from a social networking site, make up the rest and make up wild claims - all in all impressive work. I'm starting to wonder if you get paid for this? I sure hope so, otherwise I'm really sorry for all the time you waste doing this.

From his own CV on linkedIn, check it yourself before you make foolish allegations.

Henning Ludvigsen

 

Art Director at Aventurine S.A and Owner, Aventurine S.A

Norway

Hes not a native English speaker, hes from Norway, if you want to correct his grammar send him an email.

Before you accuse me of making things up and posting wild claims.

Check his own comments on his own website about his financial difficulty and adversity, and his extra jobs and extreme work hours, hes the owner of Aventurine, and Darkfall is his dream project.

Hes the only person keeping this dream alive, he sold everything and moved to Greece when Aventurine was created to publish Darkfall and continue its development.

Hes been involved with this project for 8 years, 5 of which full time after becoming the owner and investor in Aventurine.

He says this all in his own words, your in denial if you cant accept this.

 
wumptrooper  7/05/08 1:19:56 PM

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Originally posted by Polarization

From his own CV on linkedIn, check it yourself before you make foolish allegations.

Henning Ludvigsen

 

Art Director at Aventurine S.A and Owner, Aventurine S.A

Norway

Hes not a native English speaker, hes from Norway, if you want to correct his grammar send him an email.

Before you accuse me of making things up and posting wild claims.

Check his own comments on his own website about his financial difficulty and adversity, and his extra jobs and extreme work hours, hes the owner of Aventurine, and Darkfall is his dream project.

Hes the only person keeping this dream alive, he sold everything and moved to Greece when Aventurine was created to publish Darkfall and continue its development.

Hes been involved with this project for 8 years, 5 of which full time after becoming the owner and investor in Aventurine.

He says this all in his own words, your in denial if you cant accept this.

 

No, nowhere does he say that he is "the owner". That's your own invention. Unlike yours, his grammar is good  - it's a job position in a CV, where articles are dropped. Have you ever seen a CV before? Have you at least looked at other LinkedIn profiles?

You added a definite article, and from there you continued to imagine how it means that he is the main guy there, the only person keeping it alive, funding the project etc. Again, that's not the information on his website, that's all your interpretation or more accurately, imagination.

BTW Check his profile on LinkedIn again, haha. Should help some confused people here ;) I'm awaiting the claims that:

a) Darkfall is a scam and has been found out so they're covering the tracks.

b) I'm Henning Ludvigsen.

 
Polarization  7/05/08 1:54:59 PM

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This is the way the Darkfall ends

Not with a beta but a whimper.

Now somebody has changed it to

Henning Ludvigsen

 

Art Director at Aventurine S.A and Partner, Aventurine S.A

Norway

I think people can draw there own conclusions as to what just transpired, Owner or partner, Henning Ludvigsen is the primary financial backing behind this project by his own tacit admission in his own words on his own website.

Anyone can read what he has said about his involvement with Aventurine and Darkfall.

I don’t know who you are but that changed after you quoted my post that showed Henning Ludvigsen as Owner on his LinkedIn CV profile.

 

 

 
wumptrooper  7/05/08 2:10:13 PM

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Originally posted by Polarization

 

Henning Ludvigsen is the primary financial backing behind this project by his own tacit admission in his own words on his own website.


 

He says nothing of this sort on his website. That's your imagination. Anyone who can read can go directly there and read, without your silly interpretation.

According to Polarization "Sold everything I had and moved to Greece to work as a computer game developer" = "Owner/biggest investor in Aventurine". I suggest Logic 101 course.

 


I don’t know who you are but that changed after you quoted my post that showed Henning Ludvigsen as Owner on his LinkedIn CV profile.

 

I'm the owner and the financial backbone of Aventurine, a scam artist devoted to stealing precious time from little boys by making them troll the forums. And I see that you still don't understand the difference between "owner" and "the owner". I suggest a course in English. That's after you're done with Logic 101.

 
Polarization  7/05/08 2:29:07 PM

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This is the way the Darkfall ends

Not with a beta but a whimper.

Originally posted by wumptrooper

 


Originally posted by Polarization

 

Henning Ludvigsen is the primary financial backing behind this project by his own tacit admission in his own words on his own website.


 

He says nothing of this sort on his website. That's your imagination. Anyone who can read can go directly there and read, without your silly interpretation. He sold his house and moved to Greece = he's the financial backing of Aventurine. Polarization logic at its best!

I said he made the largest financial investment when Aventurine was formed becuase he was listed as owner of Aventurine S.A. on his LinkedIn CV.

After you qouted my post showing "and owner" and told me to check it, it now says "and partner"

There where other investors in Aventurine like Tasos, they are listed as co-owners/partners etc in there Lunikedin CV's, this company is owned  by members of its own development and production team, they say so in there Linkedin CV's

My "silly explanation" or "imagination" is the obvious common sense explanation why this company has so little to show after 5 years of development, its self financied by its owners, probebly has attracted ve