General Discussion

Really, of the total number of people playing mmorpg's today, a very, VERY small percentage of them visit this site, and even less actually post here. So, this site only represents what that small percentage  thinks of games and is by no means a measure of the overall opinion of anything.

Truthfully, a lot of the people here are bitter, jaded people who's favorite mmo is either dead, by way of dwindling population (like UO..*sniff*) or was broken by its creator (SWG). They don't have anything they wanna play, but then can't go back and play their old games to the same level of funzies. I expect they are not actually playing anything of the genre right now. So they sit here...and hate on everyone who actually might be enjoying a game that is currently out.

but I SWEAR I am not one of them, I just come here for the screenshots

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Originally posted by baff
With over 2 billion Christians out there i think it's fairly sure you can assume that over 2 billion people think Christianity is the best, yes.
And that if we were to poll every single inhabitant of the world as to which religion is the best, that the most numerous religion would come out as the winner.
Popularity has a very large correlation with "the best".
"The best" is a subjective term. It is a function of personal opinion.
 
WoW is the best because most people think it is the best.
 
This poll is skewed because it does not reflect that. Why, I don't know. All but the most absolute of denialists can instantly see that it is.
We have had some examples of dev's promoting this websites poll to their fans. The Dev's at Eve Online used to have a direct link to this poll from their webpage, asking all their players to vote.
And certainly the latest release MMO is usually found right at the top.
 
Perhaps it is more a function of the questions the poll asks in order to create it's score.
While WoW for example is not my most favourite of MMO's, it is however the one I have subscribed to the longest.
It is not my most favourite theme, as I don't like fantasy, but it is the best made. It's not the best value compared to some of the free ones I've played. And yet I didnt play any of the free ones for more than a few days.
 
The poll's results are skewed, because of the emphasis placed on the questions and the choice of questions.
What makes a game "the best" differs for everyone. What makes a game the best for the creator of this poll clearly is not the same as what makes a game the best for the game buying public at large.
 

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Baff, here's a quote I learned from my Psychology teacher when I was in college that you might find helpful.

"There are three kinds of deception, lies, damned lies, and POLLS" For exactly the same reasons you listed, but not just only the way the questions are asked, but also WHO they are asked to. Since you can't ask every single person in the world who has played an MMO to give their vote, you can only get a small sample of people, but that is all it is, a small sample, it isn't the whole picture, it's like trying to figure out what picture a 500 piece puzzle will look like by looking at just ONE piece. It's ridiculous.

Look at the 8.1 user rating.   That would make Auto Assault the second highest rated game currently.  The user rating system here is of very little credibility once the "fan wars" started. 

That aside, what I do gleen from the rating system isn't how great a game is anymore.  I read it like a advertisment of how many people from what games are looking for a different game.  Honestly this site is almost exclusively devoted to MMOs advertising in the hopes to attract new players.  The majority of people are here looking for something new to play and most likely rate the game they are playing highest. 

The ratings list of developed games is like reading which game has more people ready to move on and the hype rating list is where they are thinking of heading.

The answer is a simple one. This forum is populated with people who are searching the MMO wasteland for that one *Gem* of a game that will respark their love for the genre. WoW is seen by most of these people as all that is wrong with MMOs today. These are the same people who rate the games here so because most here see WoW as evil incarnate it has a low rating. So you ask yourself why don't the 10+ million people who love WoW come here to bump up the ratings? Simple, they are far to busy playing WoW to even know this site exists or even care for that matter. They have their game so why come here? There is your answer pure and simple.

Bren

Originally posted by Bane82

 

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Originally posted by Vortigon
There is no link between the quality of a game and its subscription numbers, to think otherwise just means you don't understand the world you live in.
Mcdonalds is the most popular food outlet in the world, but I wouldn't rank it number one for quality, its really very simple.

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I find it funny that people are trying to equate WoW to Mc Donalds, and then compare Mc Donalds with a fine "wine and dine" restaurant when they're not even the same thing! You want to compare apples to apples? then compare Mc Donalds to another fast food place like Wendy's (yes, PLACE, not restaurant) or compare two actual dine-in restaurants. These analogies are so far off it's not even funny, and yet they've been used over and over for no other reason other than "well, since Mc Donalds also sells in the millions, and WoW has subscription in the millions, they must be the same, so lets do a really lame comparison between a fast food place and a fine sit-in french/italian/greek/etc. cuisine restaurant" Come on people! at least make the comparisons fair! Is that too much to ask? Nevermind, I forgot I'm dealing with a bunch of so called "elitist MMO snobs" of course you're not going to be fair.

It seems that even that small paragraph was too much for you to understand, so I will make it shorter and simpler (if that's possible)

Quantity does NOT = Quality  - that's as easy as I can make it without drawing pictures.

 WoW is not ranked number one for two reasons:

1. MMORPG.com is full of angry, disgruntled players who tend to either be elitist/snobby or bitter, and vote against the status quo at every possible opportunity in an attempt to tear down success
2. The people who are enjoying WoW are either playing the game and not wasting time here slamming it, or are the casual type who do not lurk on MMORPG websites and post their opinions

If you polled every single MMORPG player, otherwise known as taking a census, and asked them what the best MMORPG is, WoW would win. The problem is the sample voting here is not representative of the MMORPG community as a whole. This is a niche community and WoW is not a niche game - it is actually a successful one.

Anyway, always take reviews, opinions, and rankings here with a grain of salt. They mean almost nothing at all.

By the way, I do not currently play WoW but if I were to vote, I would say right now it is the best MMORPG on the market. It is stable, it is full of content, it caters to casual and hardcore players, it has PvE and PvP, and it is polished to a diamond-like brilliance.

But it will still be bashed as the devil of MMORPGs, despite somehow managing to be the most successful MMORPG of all time. Go figure.

Originally posted by Sornin

 WoW is not ranked number one for two reasons:

1. MMORPG.com is full of angry, disgruntled players who tend to either be elitist/snobby or bitter, and vote against the status quo at every possible opportunity in an attempt to tear down success
2. The people who are enjoying WoW are either playing the game and not wasting time here slamming it, or are the casual type who do not lurk on MMORPG websites and post their opinions

If you polled every single MMORPG player, otherwise known as taking a census, and asked them what the best MMORPG is, WoW would win. The problem is the sample voting here is not representative of the MMORPG community as a whole. This is a niche community and WoW is not a niche game - it is actually a successful one.

Anyway, always take reviews, opinions, and rankings here with a grain of salt. They mean almost nothing at all.

By the way, I do not currently play WoW but if I were to vote, I would say right now it is the best MMORPG on the market. It is stable, it is full of content, it caters to casual and hardcore players, it has PvE and PvP, and it is polished to a diamond-like brilliance.

But it will still be bashed as the devil of MMORPGs, despite somehow managing to be the most successful MMORPG of all time. Go figure.

Alot of people think wow is a great game, but we are so tired of it, we just dont care how great it is , we are just done with it and want something else.

I highly doubt it would win if every MMO player was polled? You obviously haven't heard of the popularity of some MMOs in the Asian market...

Originally posted by Sornin

 WoW is not ranked number one for two reasons:

1. MMORPG.com is full of angry, disgruntled players who tend to either be elitist/snobby or bitter, and vote against the status quo at every possible opportunity in an attempt to tear down success
2. The people who are enjoying WoW are either playing the game and not wasting time here slamming it, or are the casual type who do not lurk on MMORPG websites and post their opinions

If you polled every single MMORPG player, otherwise known as taking a census, and asked them what the best MMORPG is, WoW would win. The problem is the sample voting here is not representative of the MMORPG community as a whole. This is a niche community and WoW is not a niche game - it is actually a successful one.

Anyway, always take reviews, opinions, and rankings here with a grain of salt. They mean almost nothing at all.

By the way, I do not currently play WoW but if I were to vote, I would say right now it is the best MMORPG on the market. It is stable, it is full of content, it caters to casual and hardcore players, it has PvE and PvP, and it is polished to a diamond-like brilliance.

But it will still be bashed as the devil of MMORPGs, despite somehow managing to be the most successful MMORPG of all time. Go figure.

Completely wrong. They want to know why WoW isnt ranked #1 here. Its verry easy to figure out. It has nothing to do with being an eliteist, snobby or anything else. People here are dying for something new.  Most here are MMO vets who have played the classics and want something similar. They are also tired of seeing games come out that arent trying to improve on the industry but are just trying to copy WoW's sucess and they blame WoW for it.....and rightfully so.

Just because people here dont follow the masses like sheep doesnt make them snobby, disgruntled or eliteists. It makes them there own person. Sorry you cant handle that.