Originally posted by amorone

That is only the start....it gets deeper still with the "masteries" within in each career. Each "career" (class) has 3 masteries. Of these, a player can choose how much or how little to delve into each. Like they may just want to specialize straight in one mastery path. Or they might want up to a point in one but then a little of another line too. It is still being worked out, but makes for some GREAT customization!

DAoC had the same thing. There were 3 different spec. lines you could put points into. The problem is that it wasn't friendly to splashing points into whatever spec you want, due to the game mechanics needing a certain overall point value in order to make a hit with that spell or ability. For example, a Fire Wizard who specializes 32 ranks out of 50 in the Fire line will hit like a lvl 32 when he is 50. There are ways in-game to artificially increase the value of that spec line through gear and realm rank.

Originally posted by theguru22

Question: Why have set classes at all? This, I think, is part of what discourages me from playing most mainstream games. From the time I create my character I'm stuck in my ways, not being able to distribute attributes AT ALL and not really choosing the majority of my abilities.

WoW has a trait system that allows a bit of character customization, but you realize that it's more of the illusion of customization because depending on what you want to do, there really is only one good way to go about it. So then it comes down to your "skill" playing the game, and games like WoW require next to no skill. As long as you can operate 3 buttons and a mouse, you'll be able to compete with the big boys... unless... your gear sucks. So what does PvP in a set class system come down to? The ability to spend hours and hours grinding for the best gear, with which it becomes little competition as you smash those with inferior armor.

Many mainstream MMORPGs employ exactly the same system as WoW, because it's so popular and lucrative (as long as you can come up with more and more perpetual diversions). However, this system is dull and lifeless, and anyone can pickup and play WoW well within hours, which is the entire time it takes to develop the strategies you will use in every PvP match you participate in. You may as well be part of the programming.

What I would like to see is more MMORPGs that employ systems similar to pre-CU SWG and AO, which were so incredibly popular because your character could fill any roll in the game, and change at any time. I admit, I am one of those who reroll nearly every class in the game simply for the diversity (because I can't stand the monotony). I never had to do that in SWG (I had 3 characters at most) because their system allowed me the freedom to choose what I wanted to do and change my character accordingly, without a hampering level system.

But perhaps this is only me, and the droves of sheep in the US would rather fall into a monotonous system than have the ability to choose.

I really am not a rude person, but are you serious? Please tell me your are not so ignorant to have no respect for the lore of particular IP's. I am a huge fan of skill- based systems, as you are. I thought Pre-NGE SWG was great. However, I also know that WAR would not be WAR anymore withough classes, because the Warhammer Universe was designed around them, just as WoW was designed with classes in mind. Star Wars on the other hand, makes absolutely no sense to have classes, because it was based on reality a lot more. People in reality have many different skills and rarely master more than 2-3. Lord of the Rings online is a perfect example of a game that used classes when a skill system was more appropriate, however, WAR needs classes or it will be violating the lore.

Think about that.

This article had me LMAO. WTF is sooo unique and interesting about a race, class system. This has been done 10X over, do i really need to name off the games. OH WAIT!! It isn't the same as WoW, so it must be unique and interesting. LOL!!!!

/cut paste race, class

How about letting any race play any profession. That might make me like it again.

Originally posted by infrared1

This article had me LMAO. WTF is sooo unique and interesting about a race, class system. This has been done 10X over, do i really need to name off the games. OH WAIT!! It isn't the same as WoW, so it must be unique and interesting. LOL!!!!

/cut paste race, class

How about letting any race play any profession. That might make me like it again.

Err, well. Since not everyone knows every game there was, it would help if you named at least 10 so we can easily verify your statement.

Regarding the "let every race play every profession", though it has been stated before:

High Elf Squig Herder? Dwarven Chosen? Empire Witch Elf? 

Originally posted by infrared1

This article had me LMAO. WTF is sooo unique and interesting about a race, class system. This has been done 10X over, do i really need to name off the games. OH WAIT!! It isn't the same as WoW, so it must be unique and interesting. LOL!!!!

/cut paste race, class

How about letting any race play any profession. That might make me like it again.

Every race has a tank, rogue, mage and healer. However they all play differently. So please list those games that is like that. And games like WoW and EQ2 and not like that at all.

Perfect World

Shaiya

RF Online

And others, im tired, i'll list more later.

Originally posted by Isokonari

Originally posted by infrared1

This article had me LMAO. WTF is sooo unique and interesting about a race, class system. This has been done 10X over, do i really need to name off the games. OH WAIT!! It isn't the same as WoW, so it must be unique and interesting. LOL!!!!

/cut paste race, class

How about letting any race play any profession. That might make me like it again.

Err, well. Since not everyone knows every game there was, it would help if you named at least 10 so we can easily verify your statement.

Regarding the "let every race play every profession", though it has been stated before:

High Elf Squig Herder? Dwarven Chosen? Empire Witch Elf? 

I'm kinda partial to the Empire Witch elf thingy.

Nice

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Originally posted by infrared1

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Originally posted by Isokonari
High Elf Squig Herder? Dwarven Chosen? Empire Witch Elf? 

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I'm kinda partial to the Empire Witch elf thingy.
Nice

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