Darkfall

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Originally posted by Silvarch

So in the end you were just making stuff about their development time and office location up just to troll the game and/or defend your position,

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No ... I was offering bait. I wanted someone to research the developers behind mikes' game but was too lazy to do it myself.
The bait worked.

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Originally posted by Silvarch

and the ammo you wanted (with the intention to troll that game) is just blanks.

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You have to know what you're talking about before you start spinning and stretching things negatively. The vaportrolls here taught me that.

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Originally posted by Silvarch

At least the so called vaporware trolls don't resort to coming up with lies to attack your convictions,

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I was baiting, not attacking.

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Originally posted by Silvarch

but would rather disprove what they perceive to be lies,

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I cannot help the mentally ill.

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Originally posted by Silvarch

yet you'd crucify them for it.

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Damn right.

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Originally posted by Silvarch

But you're lazy so it's OK to have double standards.

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It's OK to have a troll unwittingly help me in my schemes, yes.

Right. Making up facts about the game in order to provoke a response, while using it as a (invalid because they're just lies) counter argument to the OP is just trolling. Baiting is attacking (dictionary.reference.com/browse/baiting). You being OK with it when it suits your alleged purposes (to be honest I personally think you thought this to be true, used it as a counter argument to the OP and when you were called on it you changed your position and alleged intent in order to save face, but that's just conjecture) while not being OK when so called vaporware trolls who don't even use made up lies to criticize your convictions or the DF staff do it is the textbook definition of having double standards.

Regardless, while I do not agree with the OP's approach (as I can name games with 7 years or more of development and no proof they exist, but they're all called vaporware even though the people behind them have in fact shipped products before, so they'd do nothing for your case), your trolling attempts have done nothing to disprove him or discredit the game you attempted to troll (as defense of your convictions). They have, however, shown you allow for cessation of logic rigidness in your and your band's arguments when it suits you, but demand intellectual rigor from would be detractors.

I will say this one more time.

Your arguments that say Darkfall is fake or a hoax have no more truth behind them then our arguments that say Darkfall is real and will be released.

It is all opinions.  NOBODY has facts because we are not the developers of Darkfall.

It is that simple.  We will be fighting back and forth for ever (or until it is released)  with just each others opinions.

Trolls, haters, whatever else you want to be called have no more facts then the fan's do but yet both sides demand their opinions are more valid then the other side.

For me personally its not so much about Darkfall as what Darkfall brings to the table.  The feature list is the only thing that matters to me.  

If another games comes along with the same feature list as Darkfall, I will be watching and playing that game.

I want a fantasy themed game with the same feature list as Darkfall.... Darkfall happens to be the game right now that has the feature list I want as a player. 

Originally posted by TdogSkal

I will say this one more time.

Your arguments that say Darkfall is fake or a hoax have no more truth behind them then our arguments that say Darkfall is real and will be released.

It is all opinions.  NOBODY has facts because we are not the developers of Darkfall.

It is that simple.  We will be fighting back and forth for ever (or until it is released)  with just each others opinions.

Trolls, haters, whatever else you want to be called have no more facts then the fan's do but yet both sides demand their opinions are more valid then the other side.

For me personally its not so much about Darkfall as what Darkfall brings to the table.  The feature list is the only thing that matters to me.  

If another games comes along with the same feature list as Darkfall, I will be watching and playing that game.

I want a fantasy themed game with the same feature list as Darkfall.... Darkfall happens to be the game right now that has the feature list I want as a player. 

Yea. and nobody can say that duke nukem is fake or real either.  So tell me then?  Does your scenario still apply after 10 years?  What about 15 years?  At what point(time-frame) is a particular game/project officially considered a joke?