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Mackerni  6/30/08 2:43:53 AM

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(I hope this thread doesn't get closed because I happen to mention the emu team)

I was wondering why we like Star Wars Galaxies so much. Thinking back on it, everything Star Wars Galaxies was, wasn't really directly tied into Star Wars at all.

Sure, there were Imperials and Rebels in the initial release in the game, but these two forces could be replaced by anything. They are variables like x and y. Good and evil, dictatorship over democracy. Same thing with the planets - they're simply variables within the controlled context of George Lucas and the Expanded Universe. Take a look at the basic professions: scout, entertainer, medic, artisan, brawler, and marksman. Do any of these exist only in the Star Wars universe? No. None of them are can be copywrited. Sure, other than human, the other playable species in the game are copywritten, but anyone can design new races. It doesn't take a genius to do this.

You have to remember that in the initial release of the game, they didn't even create the content for Jedi.

Then I kept thinking about MMORPGs. I do have this 'ultimate idea' for a MMORPG that is basically real life sped up 1000 times faster (think The Sims + Civilization), but I know realistically this would never happen in my lifetime. So I've been thinking what kind of MMORPG I would like. And a lot of the things I want in a MMORPG are basically pre-CU SWG, with some slight variations.

And then I kept thinking about the emulator teams out there trying to make their best version of pre-CU. Because this is Star Wars, they cannot anything to make any money out of this. And then I kept thinking about how many people are bitching about SoE, including me. Let's just face the facts:

THEY WILL NEVER RE-MAKE PRE-CU SWG. THERE IS NO USE AT YELLING AT A FIRE.

So how we get the old Star Wars Galaxies back? We make a game just like it - with sci-fi elements, a practical sandbox style, and add new features that Star Wars couldn't have. We have the ability to make it better than it was. We can name our own universe, an original one that doesn't need to follow any supposed-storyline. And I think this would be for the better.

So if you guys are so serious about wanting to have the same gameplay as pre-CU, make it happen. Get developers that used to make SWG, get the emu developers, make a campaign for a new company, and try to make a profit off doing it. Everything F2P sucks ass anyways - I wouldn't mind paying for a game and a monthly subscription to an original pre-CU gameplay-style with more sandbox-y features (possibly added later).

So, what do you guys think? I think it's the only real viable option to obtaining what we want.

 
blondeh  6/30/08 4:12:52 PM

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SWG PRE-CU FTW!

I've often thought about the above.

I'd play it.

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SWG - Eclipse - Ecniv Clarke Elder Jedi(Active)
WoW - Magtheridon EU - Vman 70 Paladin(Canceled)

Played - EQ2, Vanguard, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, POTBS, CoV, Eve, Guild Wars.

Tried - Potbs, Matrix Online, Planetside, Knight Online, AO, DAOC, Archlord, Saga of Ryzom, UO,

meleemadness  6/30/08 4:21:17 PM

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Well, you are in luck...there is a game in alpha that hits on all points!

It is called "Crusades" and you can find it here:

http://www.vizualfxstudios.com/crusades/

 

 
Mackerni  6/30/08 10:04:08 PM

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Haven't you've seen "levels" and "classes" appear all over the website? Pre-CU had neither of these, pre-CU had mission difficulty (not subject to an individual but the planet itself) and professions, basic and elite professions.

 
Evilsam  7/02/08 1:49:17 AM

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SWG is gone..Fallen Earth is eagerly awaited http://fallenearth.com

Really good idea.there's been a few posts like this one along.But until you,me or some like minded person hits a really big lottery,there's about 20-50 million reasons against it,most of them having to do with dollars

 I would have been just as happy if there had never been a jedi in the game.Or if it had been called the Firefly Verse..The Star Wars name did draw a lot if not most people to it tho.

 
the_lizard  7/02/08 2:03:32 AM

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 yes, it did need the star wars part. 98% or more people joined precu in the hopes of unlocking jedi, the rest of the good stuff came with it. even if the people don't admit it that is why they joined.

 ok, so you want to take precu and change it to non star wars mmo? that's more than just changing races you have to change basically everything that exists and the models for them within the game.. all armor and weapons, have to rename the planets change housing and building models. most furniture, all pets and mounts and most wild spawns, vehicles.. all that modeling would take forever.....i would totally play it though

 
kielker  7/02/08 1:55:58 PM

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Originally posted by the_lizard

 yes, it did need the star wars part. 98% or more people joined precu in the hopes of unlocking jedi, the rest of the good stuff came with it. even if the people don't admit it that is why they joined.

 ok, so you want to take precu and change it to non star wars mmo? that's more than just changing races you have to change basically everything that exists and the models for them within the game.. all armor and weapons, have to rename the planets change housing and building models. most furniture, all pets and mounts and most wild spawns, vehicles.. all that modeling would take forever.....i would totally play it though


 

Since they didn't even have jedi for the first year or so after go-live (give or take a few months), I'd have to say your 98% figure is way, way off.

 
the_lizard  7/02/08 4:23:07 PM

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Originally posted by kielker
Originally posted by the_lizard

 yes, it did need the star wars part. 98% or more people joined precu in the hopes of unlocking jedi, the rest of the good stuff came with it. even if the people don't admit it that is why they joined.

 ok, so you want to take precu and change it to non star wars mmo? that's more than just changing races you have to change basically everything that exists and the models for them within the game.. all armor and weapons, have to rename the planets change housing and building models. most furniture, all pets and mounts and most wild spawns, vehicles.. all that modeling would take forever.....i would totally play it though


 

Since they didn't even have jedi for the first year or so after go-live (give or take a few months), I'd have to say your 98% figure is way, way off.

Oh yeah.... well i guess you weren't there?  We didn't know the jedi system wasn't in place. They told us it was available and it was a huge selling point. Really it was in 6 months for sure cause we all got holo's for christmas. then people started to know what to do. The first unlocks were in november which was 5 months after launch or less...

like really, why would you comment on something you have no clue about?

 
Anobaca  7/02/08 5:01:28 PM

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Originally posted by the_lizard

 yes, it did need the star wars part. 98% or more people joined precu in the hopes of unlocking jedi, the rest of the good stuff came with it. even if the people don't admit it that is why they joined.

 ok, so you want to take precu and change it to non star wars mmo? that's more than just changing races you have to change basically everything that exists and the models for them within the game.. all armor and weapons, have to rename the planets change housing and building models. most furniture, all pets and mounts and most wild spawns, vehicles.. all that modeling would take forever.....i would totally play it though


 

 Then I am pround to be one of the 2% of the people that did not buy the game to be a jedi. I got it to explore the star wars unversie. Happy for the people that got jedi that wanted it but I was happy being a CH. I still remeber fondly my time in the med center healing people and hanging out in the tryena cantina.

 
angus858  7/02/08 5:10:20 PM

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